Poch might be, he never had anywhere near the financial resources Ole has. Btw just to make myself clear, I like Ole and I think he has done a good job so far. I just wish for better than 'good' next year. Set high standards.
(A) You feel Ole isn't up to it. You can't you tell us why. How do you expect to persuade us he should be sacked when you never named your preferred replacement and can't even give us good reasons? You're argument reeks of sour grapes after defeat.
I agree about the windows, but the difference for me is the style of play. Even with the likes of Clyne, Morena etc, Liverpool were playing the style of football Klopp wants. I cannot say th3 same for Ole, I know he wants to play a fast press but I just cannot see the translation on the pitch. Personally, Ole is not the one for me but at the same time, I will always back whoever is in charge, especially with the windows. Ole will most certainly be here for next season, let's hope he gets what he wants. I think in terms of clearing deadwood he has made a decent start, I want to see him sign more players with Brunos attitude, that will be key for me. I really don't want Maguire as captain, Bruno is the right leader for this club, his attitude is infectious.
I'm not changing my mind just because of Sevilla defeat. Yes we do look good in parts but always struggle against determined opponents, we all see top notch teams play - Bayern, PSG, Liverpool, City etc. Do you honestly feel our passing, pressing, chance creation is comparable to those clubs? Yes their clubs have good players and we don't have much but still teams like Lyon, Atalanta, Leipzig, Dortmund put a very good show and can easily outplay us very easily. I simply do not have the confidence that OGS is capable of coaching to become a team like that. I'm complaining about our passing and movement since Moyes was appointed, only when I see those improving, I'll really get behind a manager. Till then nothing will convince me.
Who are these better qualified managers? Moyes is definitely not, van Gaal was beyond past it and was pushing retirement when we moronically appointed him over " genius tactic to sub a goalkeeper for pens". Mourinho - another "better qualified" manager who was also beginning to look stale and was past it again. He is destroying Spurs now. All of this appointments were farcical and for that Woodward has to go, I'm not denying that.
I haven't beaten Solskjaer with anything yet.
Both Solskjaer and Pochettino will win a trophy as long as they manage teams like United. The question is whether or not they can do it consistently and create a culture or winning like good managers do.
Is that the same pochettino that pretty much fell out with Levy for not financing a rebuild?
I haven't beaten Solskjaer with anything yet.
I'm just setting goals for next year. Fair ones that any manager at United should be looking to achieve.
I haven't beaten Solskjaer with anything yet.
I'm just setting goals for next year. Fair ones that any manager at United should be looking to achieve.
I'd expect similar goals at City & Chelsea for sure. Two very successful clubs who we should be competing with.
Which you have been doing
I understand progression/transition which we somehow are perennially in but we never seem to deliver the goods. A cut throat approach is l'd like similar to clubs like Real/Barca/Juve and not risk having a drought similar to Liverpool's with our leniency.
Because I don't think they have enough ambition. They are fine with just being around doing nothing. Do you think going any manager will last 2-3 trophy less seasons at clubs like Real, Barca, Bayern, Chelsea?
Yes, Poch is the answer. Even if Poch is not solution, i know that Ole certainly is not the guy who will lead us forward. And you seriously underestimate other leagues. Italy and Spain are not weaker than PL.
Fine, Chelsea and City then if you think La Liga and Serie A are 'nonsensical'.
Fine, Chelsea and City then if you think La Liga and Serie A are 'nonsensical'.
What is short sighted about judging success on a trophy? You don't get a trophy for finishing second. We finished second under Mourinho and had quite a 'progressive' year after that.
Did all those Liverpool players really cost 400m pounds? Sounds made up to me. Salah, VVD and Allison's transfer worth would have grown so much now and Liverpool won the CL and the title and look set to dominate for years to come. So that was well worth the investment.
Say what now?
Are you claiming Klopp and Guardiola didn't sign big names or spend a fortune to get where they are?
Why did both of you conveniently choose to ignore points about improving our technique and tactics? Do you honestly believe Guardiola and Klopp are only successful because they signed all those players?
Because winning a trophy is not the same as establishing an era of dominance. To establish an era, you need to get the transition right, with the right players and the right profile. If you're saying you're in transition and the average age of your starting XI is more often than not 27 or so, which was the case in 17/18, you can't say you're in transition. If anything, I'd say you're towards the end of a cycle with a team.Fine, Chelsea and City then if you think La Liga and Serie A are 'nonsensical'.
What is short sighted about judging success on a trophy? You don't get a trophy for finishing second. We finished second under Mourinho and had quite a 'progressive' year after that.
If this is the case, the most likely scenario is that you are too biased to see them.
