Would you sack or keep Ole? (Poll reopened)

Sack or Keep OLE?

  • Sack Ole & appoint new coach ASAP

  • Keep Ole & back him to finish rebuild


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Pogba, Martial and Greenwood. Who all ended up coming on. So he basically rested no one.
He did the same thing against Norwich, which was pointless

Y'all do know there's a difference in playing for 90+ minutes and 30-45 mins, right?

And it's not like he would have brought them on if we were winning (convincingly), he was forced to answer the situation by bringing on players we trust more to try to salvage a win.
 
Let’s say he gets third next season playing attractive football, we slip up a bit, but we are Not too far off the top until about April, we go deep into cups and may be nick one. Would you say he’d have a right to go once more? Just trying to see if you will see your opinion of him changing as the results improve towards Silverware but without attaining them.
Yes I would under those circumstances. I haven't been a able to watch any matches since the league restarted but up until then I hadn't seen any football that I would consider attractive.
 
Y'all do know there's a difference in playing for 90+ minutes and 30-45 mins, right?

And it's not like he would have brought them on if we were winning (convincingly), he was forced to answer the situation by bringing on players we trust more to try to salvage a win.

Ummm hmmm!! I do. I can’t speak for the other guy. But you do know 45mins is working a lot harder than 0 minutes like say a rested Pulisic.

He was but with that tactics and line up he might aswell told them before kick off they’d be making an appearance.
 
So two inexperienced first team coaches added in with his coach from Cardiff and Molde (Don’t bite that’s where they have come from).

The fitness coach who I imaged worked with the youth and reserves when Ole was part of United’s coaching team.

Don’t get me started on Phelan. He’s no Brian Kidd put it that way. But basically there hasn’t been much thought in recruiting his back room staff has there? He needs to atleast fix that going forward. He can keep his mate Dempsey but maybe he tries and get the best coaches in Europe for the other positions.

Now you're changing your argument. You said he just hired mates. I said they were hired by Mou and he retained them. Their experience might be worthy to question but that doesn't mean they can't do a good job.

McKenna was/is highly rated across the country for his coaching ability. Carrick is the one I maybe question the most, but I feel like he's more of a trainee like Giggs and Solskjær was after they retired. Either way he's an experienced successfull player at United, and having him around helps the players remember what kind of club we are supposed to be.

Say what you want about Phelan but at least brings the experience that the other two lacks as you say. He wouldn't have lasted as long under SAF if he was clueless. What makes you say so certainly he's bad at his job anyway? The few media soundbytes we've heard? That he failed in his manager attempt? Phelan was a great choice to bring along to help instill that old United Culture back to the club.

He brought one trusted colleague, how big of an entourage does Mou have? If anything we could criticize Ole for not having a bigger team of his own staff to change things. And he wouldn't have brought Mark with him at all the clubs if he didn't feel like he brought value. He wasn't even an immediate hire. Ole brought him in later after evaluating our setup and seeing a hole.

Our fitness coach has been here since 2017, Ole didn't hire him, and he wasn't with us when Ole left United in 2011. If you are referring to the Head of Athletics he was a SAF era hire, and has survived 4 managers. He does his job but is also at direction of the manager. Mou didn't want certain things like GPS trackers. After Ole came in he changed that and allowed the team to do much more. And our fitness have looked much better this season than the last.
 
Ummm hmmm!! I do. I can’t speak for the other guy. But you do know 45mins is working a lot harder than 0 minutes like say a rested Pulisic.

He was but with that tactics and line up he might aswell told them before kick off they’d be making an appearance.

"Boys, I want you to prepare for the fact that one of our CB's will get his head knocked around twice before first half so we have to take him off to be safe. Unfortunately we don't have a replacement CB right now that could work in that 3 back-line, but you know most games our CB's play all 90's minutes so our strategy is that we will trick Chelsea into beliving we will play 3 at the back all game, but when Bailly comes off we then have to change the formation and put on an attacker due to that lack of other CB's. Then Chelsea might score when we follow our strategy of the planned injury, so you'll have to be ready to come on then."
 
"Boys, I want you to prepare for the fact that one of our CB's will get his head knocked around twice before first half so we have to take him off to be safe. Unfortunately we don't have a replacement CB right now that could work in that 3 back-line, but you know most games our CB's play all 90's minutes so our strategy is that we will trick Chelsea into beliving we will play 3 at the back all game, but when Bailly comes off we then have to change the formation and put on an attacker due to that lack of other CB's. Then Chelsea might score when we follow our strategy of the planned injury, so you'll have to be ready to come on then."

We don’t have a spare CB because I decided to use all 3 of the ones I have. Sorry the guy that had played the most minutes this season was also playing and also happened to be the guy that knocked you senseless. Maybe he was just fatigued. I mean he normally only plays 38 games a season at best.
 
I'm sorry mate - you have no clue what you're talking about. Company money and personal money are two different things. United doesn't dominate the sponsorships and marketing because it's owned by the Glazers. United dominates it because it's a global brand. We'd earn the same money, and even more, without the Glazers. They literally took billions out of the club, that's not how it works. End of.

Where have we been is in a bad state with Mourinho. Then we got a club 'legend' who improved recruitment and got rid of bad players from Mourinho's team. Now we're even worse. It's quite obvious where we're going.

I explained a 100 times why caretaker is different, not gonna go over it again.

1. I don't see a plan and certainly don't see or feel the progress.
2. Solskjaer is very different to managers you keep bringing on. He's a failure, they weren't.
3. Neither Pep or Zidane had more credentials than Ole when they became managers. But they brought instant results and proved themselves right away. Ole failed that very small part.
4. 40 years ago a man who would become the goat manager succeeded in completely different times, so this failed Cardiff manager must be on the same path.

Ole is literally two rounds from finishing the worst season in 30 years. End of. There's no good work there, there's no progress.

As I say. Everything ManUtd brings in becomes owners money. You don't understand how things work? Look at this way, everything that ManCity or Liverpool or Chelsea brings in works the same way. It is owners money and they can spend it however they want. They can make rules and plans how to control the club and everything about economics. Then there is other ownership where not one person owns a club. Instead there is more owners.

Guardiola and Zidane took over teams that were miles better then ours when Solskjaer took over. Solskjaer had Lukaku, Guardiola had Messi, Solskjaer had Lingard, Zidane had Ronaldo. Guardiola had Iniesta, Solskjaer had Fred, Zidane had Ramos, Solskjaer had Smailing. So it seems to be that both Guardiola and Zidane had better chances to do well from start.
 
Now you're changing your argument. You said he just hired mates. I said they were hired by Mou and he retained them. Their experience might be worthy to question but that doesn't mean they can't do a good job.

McKenna was/is highly rated across the country for his coaching ability. Carrick is the one I maybe question the most, but I feel like he's more of a trainee like Giggs and Solskjær was after they retired. Either way he's an experienced successfull player at United, and having him around helps the players remember what kind of club we are supposed to be.

Say what you want about Phelan but at least brings the experience that the other two lacks as you say. He wouldn't have lasted as long under SAF if he was clueless. What makes you say so certainly he's bad at his job anyway? The few media soundbytes we've heard? That he failed in his manager attempt? Phelan was a great choice to bring along to help instill that old United Culture back to the club.

He brought one trusted colleague, how big of an entourage does Mou have? If anything we could criticize Ole for not having a bigger team of his own staff to change things. And he wouldn't have brought Mark with him at all the clubs if he didn't feel like he brought value. He wasn't even an immediate hire. Ole brought him in later after evaluating our setup and seeing a hole.

Our fitness coach has been here since 2017, Ole didn't hire him, and he wasn't with us when Ole left United in 2011. If you are referring to the Head of Athletics he was a SAF era hire, and has survived 4 managers. He does his job but is also at direction of the manager. Mou didn't want certain things like GPS trackers. After Ole came in he changed that and allowed the team to do much more. And our fitness have looked much better this season than the last.

Not being funny but I don’t want a bigger team of guys who’s experience is Molde. Might aswell get the coaches from Salford.
 
Mainoldo talks sense most of the time. Maybe his way of putting it across makes some people confused.
Ole is not a top class coach still. If he is going to be in the future is anybody's guess.
He is a very good man manager otherwise players won't be playing the way they are trying now.
His negatives were always tactics. He is too rigid in playing with three strikers. He sometimes need to go with 4 midfield players and two strikers. Bruno is very capable of playing in a forward role. Let Fred, Matic and Pogba be the midfield players with Bruno joining the attack. This brings better balance to the team when we play against sides that out number is in the midfield.
Then of course the corners. I really still can't understand why he doesn't get variations on our corners?
 
Not being funny but I don’t want a bigger team of guys who’s experience is Molde. Might aswell get the coaches from Salford.

Yeah exactly, so maybe him choosing coaches who has been around United for many years is the good decision here? They are hardly hired as his mates just cause they have history here?
 
There's a lot to like, but what I'm saying is despite doing all of that good work, would it not at the same time highlight some major issues if he fails to get us over the line for top-four, despite our rivals having mini collapses themselves around us. Especially since we had an opportunity last season also and the players fell to pieces in the final few games. I just don't think the work that Ole has done would be enough if he can't motivate a team with this talent to go out and do what's necessary to clinch this now and I'd have major doubts over him ever challenging for the title of he can't pull this off from here. Ask yourself this, could you see Klopp, Pep, Zidane or some of the other top managers in world football failing to get their team champions league football in a position such as this?
That is what I'm uncertain about also. The two good periods we've had under him have come after players themselves taking up to prove something or influence of Bruno. They start high-flying thrashing teams 3-0/4-0 then abruptly it all goes to shit and players don't seem to be bothered. His own demeanor during matches sitting on the sidelines doesn't put any kind of urgency among the players. It can't be a coincidence if it's happening twice. If the same kind of performance continues for the remaining two games, then we need to look at his motivational skills at least regardless if we win or lose them. This fatigue excuse is not passable as Martial doesn't seem to be fatigued.
 
We don’t have a spare CB because I decided to use all 3 of the ones I have. Sorry the guy that had played the most minutes this season was also playing and also happened to be the guy that knocked you senseless. Maybe he was just fatigued. I mean he normally only plays 38 games a season at best.

Yes, because a 3 CB backline is what has worked against teams like Chelsea in the past. You can't expect them to get injured.

Maguire, Lindelöf and Bailly was the ones he trusted to play like that. Jones and Tuanzebe was injured. Rojo and Smalling are on loan, we are trying to get em off the books permanently to help bring in another CB we can trust.
 
Yeah exactly, so maybe him choosing coaches who has been around United for many years is the good decision here? They are hardly hired as his mates just cause they have history here?

It depends what you want. You can’t be talking about cultural rest and how we’ve had 6 years of things being done wrong and assume what the club has to offer is good enough. Plus you also have to look after yourself. It’s good to have people you know around you we probably all would do it. However just as an example if I’m the manager of Salford and I get the United job by chance.. It would be nice to bring my coach that understands my philosophy with me. But knowing that I will now be trading blows with Pep and Klopp maybe I should be using the resource I have to invested in a coach who is well regarded n European football. Michael Carrick is a novice and McKenna good reputation but has little to no experience at the top end. Maybe you drop Carrick for instance.
 
Yes, because a 3 CB backline is what has worked against teams like Chelsea in the past. You can't expect them to get injured.

Maguire, Lindelöf and Bailly was the ones he trusted to play like that. Jones and Tuanzebe was injured. Rojo and Smalling are on loan, we are trying to get em off the books permanently to help bring in another CB we can trust.

Well here’s a thought. Don’t play it if you don’t have the resources. He’s been playing 4231 for weeks. Everyone is use to it and we’ve been unbeaten. It’s far easy to rest Maguire and not f up the front line by just swapping players around. I mean if we had two CB we probably wouldn’t have two so close to each other on that side of the pitch going for the same ball.

Surely your persistence of trying to win this argument doesn’t make you overlook that.
 
It depends what you want. You can’t be talking about cultural rest and how we’ve had 6 years of things being done wrong and assume what the club has to offer is good enough. Plus you also have to look after yourself. It’s good to have people you know around you we probably all would do it. However just as an example if I’m the manager of Salford and I get the United job by chance.. It would be nice to bring my coach that understands my philosophy with me. But knowing that I will now be trading blows with Pep and Klopp maybe I should be using the resource I have to invested in a coach who is well regarded n European football. Michael Carrick is a novice and McKenna good reputation but has little to no experience at the top end. Maybe you drop Carrick for instance.

Did you watch the Elite podcast video with Ole that was posted a lot here last week? It's an hour long, but a lot of good stuff.

In it Ole gets asked how much input others have, and he says something along the lines of that he respects other peoples opinions and he will listen to them, as long as they respect his decisions.

Like I said I think Carrick is more of a trainee like Giggs/Ole were after their playing career ended.

McKenna seems to be the tactician while Ole (mainly) and Phelan are the experience to "fact-check" the tactics when theory doesn't hold up against practice.

Ole was behaving like a coach while he was still a player. On the bench he would study the play to know what he should do if he comes on. Pretty sure he was allowed to give this info to the SAF coaching team as well, which probably has a lot to do with why Fergie wanted Ole on his team after player retirement.

Those who claim Ole doesn't know tactics don't know what they are talking about.
Sometimes, not changing anything is the right tactic, cause you can see that it has a good chance of working out over time by what chances we have in the games.
Someone else posted that Ole is the third best in the league to come away with points after coming under. Sometimes you gotta trust the prepared tactics work you did before the game, cause you don't have a super-sub you can put on.
 
Well here’s a thought. Don’t play it if you don’t have the resources. He’s been playing 4231 for weeks. Everyone is use to it and we’ve been unbeaten. It’s far easy to rest Maguire and not f up the front line by just swapping players around. I mean if we had two CB we probably wouldn’t have two so close to each other on that side of the pitch going for the same ball.

Surely your persistence of trying to win this argument doesn’t make you overlook that.

So him changing the formation aka tactic for a tough elimination game, to the strategy that had worked against Chelsea and other teams earlier in the year was a bad idea just because maybe a CB gets injured?

Just cause 4 2 3 1 worked in the league against weaker teams doesn't mean we think it will work against a tough opponent like Chelsea?
If he started the same as against Villa people would say Ole has no tactical ability if he expects the same to keep working every game.
 
Did you watch the Elite podcast video with Ole that was posted a lot here last week? It's an hour long, but a lot of good stuff.

In it Ole gets asked how much input others have, and he says something along the lines of that he respects other peoples opinions and he will listen to them, as long as they respect his decisions.

Like I said I think Carrick is more of a trainee like Giggs/Ole were after their playing career ended.

McKenna seems to be the tactician while Ole (mainly) and Phelan are the experience to "fact-check" the tactics when theory doesn't hold up against practice.

Ole was behaving like a coach while he was still a player. On the bench he would study the play to know what he should do if he comes on. Pretty sure he was allowed to give this info to the SAF coaching team as well, which probably has a lot to do with why Fergie wanted Ole on his team after player retirement.

Those who claim Ole doesn't know tactics don't know what they are talking about.
Sometimes, not changing anything is the right tactic, cause you can see that it has a good chance of working out over time by what chances we have in the games.
Someone else posted that Ole is the third best in the league to come away with points after coming under. Sometimes you gotta trust the prepared tactics work you did before the game, cause you don't have a super-sub you can put on.

Yeah it was a good podcast I loved it. There’s quite a few on there. Poch’s one is good too :lol: no shade it’s actually good.

Only thing with these is no ones really going to say anything you won’t be inspired by. The only thing that really matters is what they show in their actual management. Jose Mourinho’s analysts when on Sky was world class. But he’s management as we know is terrible now.
 
It's never black and white. Ole is still not a top coach. It's good that most fans want the best for United. This season he has done a lot for him to be given the chance for next season.
Replace him if by December we are not challenging.
His tactics won't improve unless he realizes that he can't be that rigid. Pep wins only because he has the players to be rigid.

I will give you a good example on this. When Ajax and Spurs played their semi final game at Spurs and Ajax won 0-1, the pundits thought Ajax would defend in the home leg. Gullit said no. He said they would play exactly the same way they always play. The British pundits were shocked. They thought Gullit was joking. Gullit said no he is serious. Ajax played the same way and lost.
Ole should learn to adapt his game plans depending on the opposition and the situation.
 
It's never black and white. Ole is still not a top coach. It's good that most fans want the best for United. This season he has done a lot for him to be given the chance for next season.
Replace him if by December we are not challenging.
His tactics won't improve unless he realizes that he can't be that rigid. Pep wins only because he has the players to be rigid.

I will give you a good example on this. When Ajax and Spurs played their semi final game at Spurs and Ajax won 0-1, the pundits thought Ajax would defend in the home leg. Gullit said no. He said they would play exactly the same way they always play. The British pundits were shocked. They thought Gullit was joking. Gullit said no he is serious. Ajax played the same way and lost.
Ole should learn to adapt his game plans depending on the opposition and the situation.


Which is what he's been doing mostly? Why we changed the formation for the cup-game against Chelsea? How we've done every time this season when we are up against a tough team?

And yes he made few changes when things went so well for a time now after restart, but that's because "you don't change a winning team", he even said it himself that it was impossible for him to bench Greenwood when he was scoring every game.

Now that strategy has been working in the league, will be interesting to see in a few hours if we keep doing it like that or make other changes.
 
Which is what he's been doing mostly? Why we changed the formation for the cup-game against Chelsea? How we've done every time this season when we are up against a tough team?

And yes he made few changes when things went so well for a time now after restart, but that's because "you don't change a winning team", he even said it himself that it was impossible for him to bench Greenwood when he was scoring every game.

Now that strategy has been working in the league, will be interesting to see in a few hours if we keep doing it like that or make other changes.

Yes you do change a winning team depending on the opposition. It's stupid not to do so.
 
Ok, that's enough thread-camping for me. Need to get some stuff sorted before the game.

I hope this thread will be super quiet 5 hours from now, even more so in 7h when we are confirmed in 3rd place.

Then little to talk about in the next days until we can finally close this thread on Sunday night.
 
So him changing the formation aka tactic for a tough elimination game, to the strategy that had worked against Chelsea and other teams earlier in the year was a bad idea just because maybe a CB gets injured?

Just cause 4 2 3 1 worked in the league against weaker teams doesn't mean we think it will work against a tough opponent like Chelsea?
If he started the same as against Villa people would say Ole has no tactical ability if he expects the same to keep working every game.

Because you are backing him so religiously your not actually being logical in your defence. He used those tactics because of what we lacked as a side. He’s found success in what he’s being doing recently and has even had people say he’s improved. What you don’t do then is revert back to philosophies and approaches that got you through in the darker days. It doesn’t show progression or belief. We didn’t need 5 at the back to go head to head with flipping Chelsea. Once again like with Spurs, where we handed them two points we are showing good teams by name too much respect. Go out there and give us something to believe in.
 
Because you are backing him so religiously your not actually being logical in your defence. He used those tactics because of what we lacked as a side. He’s found success in what he’s being doing recently and has even had people say he’s improved. What you don’t do then is revert back to philosophies and approaches that got you through in the darker days. It doesn’t show progression or belief. We didn’t need 5 at the back to go head to head with flipping Chelsea. Once again like with Spurs, where we handed them two points we are showing good teams by name too much respect. Go out there and give us something to believe in.
Shooting down your lies and half-truths isn't "backing him religiously", it's living in reality.
 
Because you are backing him so religiously your not actually being logical in your defence. He used those tactics because of what we lacked as a side. He’s found success in what he’s being doing recently and has even had people say he’s improved. What you don’t do then is revert back to philosophies and approaches that got you through in the darker days. It doesn’t show progression or belief. We didn’t need 5 at the back to go head to head with flipping Chelsea. Once again like with Spurs, where we handed them two points we are showing good teams by name too much respect. Go out there and give us something to believe in.

He needed to rotate so unfortunately we had to use the players we were relying on in the 'darker days' in the Chelsea game. If we hadn't played our best 11 with only 48 hours until our next game I'm sure he would have played the 4-2-3-1 formation with our best players. Everyone said we should rest players - so he did and using the formation and tactics that beat them 3 times already this season doesn't seem like bad management. If he played our strongest 11, still lost and fatigued our players further you'd be the first one in here saying how we should have rested players and used the tactics from earlier in the season against them I bet. I know I would have been. It's annoying that we lost but at least I can understand the tactical decision to play the 3-4-3
 
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Ok, that's enough thread-camping for me. Need to get some stuff sorted before the game.

I hope this thread will be super quiet 5 hours from now, even more so in 7h when we are confirmed in 3rd place.

Then little to talk about in the next days until we can finally close this thread on Sunday night.

We won’t be confirmed as anything until the last day when a loss, whatever happens tonight, will put us out of top 4 in all likelihood.

Even if he scrapes top 4, there are legitimate questions to be asked over how successful he’s actually been & if he’s the right man for the job
 
Back from little break straight into it I see

Ignore him - when the criticism against OGS was at its worst - he was basically the worst of the worst. He had nothing constructive to offer - just whining and anyone who didn't agree with him was dumb.
 
He needed to rotate so unfortunately we had to use the players we were relying on in the 'darker days' in the Chelsea game. If we hadn't played our best 11 with only 48 hours rest I'm sure he would have played the 4-2-3-1 formation with our best players. Everyone said we should rest players - so he did and using the formation and tactics that beat them 3 times already this season doesn't seem like bad management. If he played our strongest 11, still lost and fatigued our players further you'd be the first one in here saying how we should have rested players and used the tactics from earlier in the season against them I bet.

I would be the first one in here saying nothing. I had no interest in the semi final. We need champions league not a sentiment trophy that in this day and age means nothing. Nice to have mind you. But with all things relative it’s not important. He could have easily set up a team that played against Norwich like I’ve said previously it was only him that made Chelsea out to be some team that needed 5 at the back. Yes it was a tactic that worked previously but it’s abit naive to thing it’s going to work 3 times in a row and one of the times it worked we was bloody lucky. It’s not like it was an amazing tactical plan.
 
Ignore him - when the criticism against OGS was at its worst - he was basically the worst of the worst. He had nothing constructive to offer - just whining and anyone who didn't agree with him was dumb.

Why do you have to be constructive when saying how you see it? I just don’t see him as good enough to be our manager, you do.
 
I would be the first one in here saying nothing. I had no interest in the semi final. We need champions league not a sentiment trophy that in this day and age means nothing. Nice to have mind you. But with all things relative it’s not important. He could have easily set up a team that played against Norwich like I’ve said previously it was only him that made Chelsea out to be some team that needed 5 at the back. Yes it was a tactic that worked previously but it’s abit naive to thing it’s going to work 3 times in a row and one of the times it worked we was bloody lucky. It’s not like it was an amazing tactical plan.

Well in this case, I actually agree with you. I probably care about the FA cup a little more than you appear to, but in our current circumstances it has to take a backseat. I would have definitely rested Bruno, AWB and Maguire who have all looked shattered recently, but I can understand why Ole went for a half-weakened team rather than the full Lingard. We could have set-up the team that played against Norwich, but seeing as we barely scraped past them I don't think it would have made a difference. I'm also surprised that you've gone from saying 'Give us something to beleive in' to 'I had no interest in the semi-final and it means nothing' in two posts.
 
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It's never black and white. Ole is still not a top coach. It's good that most fans want the best for United. This season he has done a lot for him to be given the chance for next season.
Replace him if by December we are not challenging.
His tactics won't improve unless he realizes that he can't be that rigid. Pep wins only because he has the players to be rigid.

I will give you a good example on this. When Ajax and Spurs played their semi final game at Spurs and Ajax won 0-1, the pundits thought Ajax would defend in the home leg. Gullit said no. He said they would play exactly the same way they always play. The British pundits were shocked. They thought Gullit was joking. Gullit said no he is serious. Ajax played the same way and lost.
Ole should learn to adapt his game plans depending on the opposition and the situation.
I disagree with this quite strongly. Ole has been able to deploy counter-attacking football to dispose of Chelsea and City 3 times this season whilst being unlucky only to draw to Liverpool. His only downside was an inability to break down deep defences, which looks to be likely solved via Bruno/Sancho.

The fact that he switched to a counter attack system vs Chelsea in the FA Cup shows he is very willing to switch systems to suit the opponent. Whether it worked or not is a different matter - there is an example of a big game which was our last fixture infact, where he showed flexibility on system and wasn't afraid to risk it.
 
De Gea keep costing us everything last two seasons, but he is not dropped anyway.
Strange management from Ole. It is similar to LVG with Rooney.
 
Well in this case, I actually agree with you. I probably care about the FA cup a little more than you appear to, but in our current circumstances it has to take a backseat. I would have definitely rested Bruno, AWB and Maguire who have all looked shattered recently, but I can understand why Ole went for a half-weakened team rather than the full Lingard. We could have set-up the team that played against Norwich, but seeing as we barely scraped past them I don't think it would have made a difference. I'm also surprised that you've gone from saying 'Give us something to beleive in' to 'I had no interest in the semi-final and it means nothing' in two posts.

I understand but what I mean by that and I’ve said it previously when we dropped points against Spurs. You cannot feed us we are trying to play the right way etc and as soon as a tough opposition by name or league position is presented to us you want to play with caution.

I can bet my money regardless the result tonight we will set up defensive against Leicester.
 
Can he throttle Pogba at half time. Pathetic from him.

Big half for Ole. Every time top four is in our grasp something like this occurs.
 
We need Poch. Ole is decent but not a top manager....another season with him incharge is another wasted season
 
Penalty notwithstanding we've been crap. Players look wrecked and a bit clueless as how to break West Ham down. It's the managers job to make sure this shouldn't happen.
 
Big 45 mins for Ole, yes we can go to Leicester and win but throwing this away after questionable lineups in the semi final, not a good look.
 
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