As long as we don't add fecking Eric Dier to that list I'm happy.
Would you be happy with Morata, Fabinho, Lindelof and Perisic?
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Probably right.
Break the bank for Mbappe and/or Dembele 
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On a realistic note, once Griezmann was called off, the rest of the window was always going to be an anti climax. There really isn't anyone realistically available to take us to the next level. Morata has excellent potential, Lindelof I don't know much about, Fabinho is a good player but don't think he'll be any better than Herrera in that position and Perisic is bang average. It'll be a meh window. I'm not really expecting much.
I'm more excited about the potential of the players already in our squad. Much more to come from Pogba/Martial/Rashford/Bailley etc. From our youth squad, I'm most excited by Mitchell - seems an absolute gem if he can keep at it.
. On a realistic note, once Griezmann was called off, the rest of the window was always going to be an anti climax. There really isn't anyone realistically available to take us to the next level. Morata has excellent potential, Lindelof I don't know much about, Fabinho is a good player but don't think he'll be any better than Herrera in that position and Perisic is bang average. It'll be a meh window. I'm not really expecting much.
I'm more excited about the potential of the players already in our squad. Much more to come from Pogba/Martial/Rashford/Bailley etc. From our youth squad, I'm most excited by Mitchell - seems an absolute gem if he can keep at it.
Yes. We could probably add a LB and another attacking option. But then again I expect and hope Martial and Mickhi will raise their game so we'll see more goals from them and Rashford will continue his rise.
I'd not be content with only those 4 signings. Only two attackers to rebuild our attack? That's not sufficient. We let go of Ibrahimovic. The only striker we have in the team is Rashford. Martial is more of a 11 rather than 9. Even if we play a 4231, it'd still be a very lean attack. That'd be fine if we were to compete only in the EPL. But, we'll be fighting on all fronts and challenging for every single one of the 5 trophies available to us next season. If we play a 4231, we should buy a proper 10 (maybe someone like James). If we are planning to go for a 433, we should buy a proper striker besides Morata.
Perisic would be a waste of a signing. I would rather see us give minutes to one of our youngsters than sign him. If we want a left footed left winger, we should be all over Lemar however it will be difficult to prise him away from Monaco considering how many players they will probably sell.
Fabinho would be a brilliant signing and the one CM that would improve our midfield that we have been linked too. He can also cover for RB which would be handy.
I'm unsure on Morata but there's not many options out there and he's a more sensible signing than Belotti tbf. Wouldn't mind us taking a punt on Lacazette.
Lindelof is highly rated, and probably a better option than Keane so I'm happy with that.
A few weeks ago, I would have been disappointed with the above 4 but they are solid signings (minus Perisic) and would improve us, however I don't think they will help us compete massively in the CL.
Fabinho would be a brilliant signing and the one CM that would improve our midfield that we have been linked too. He can also cover for RB which would be handy.
I'm unsure on Morata but there's not many options out there and he's a more sensible signing than Belotti tbf. Wouldn't mind us taking a punt on Lacazette.
Lindelof is highly rated, and probably a better option than Keane so I'm happy with that.
A few weeks ago, I would have been disappointed with the above 4 but they are solid signings (minus Perisic) and would improve us, however I don't think they will help us compete massively in the CL.
Mbappe must be bought at all cost. We just have to write a big enough number that monaco only has one highest bid and no one else can stomach anymore financial pain. I think for us the pain point is 150-180 pounds and will mean we will fully deplete our transfer (cash) reserves which we have been holding for a few years now. But this is exactly why we have been hoarding that cash, for a special player who can be the best player of his generation after messi and ronaldo retire.
I think we passed on griezmann because of him. We couldnt afford him and having to pay griezmanns buy out upfront unless we sold de gea. But griezmann is a shorter term target and even if we missed out there are other playersof his calibre on the market. Who knows when another special player will come on the market. Woodward you know what to do. Sign mbappe and shirt sales will go though the roof anyway.
I think we passed on griezmann because of him. We couldnt afford him and having to pay griezmanns buy out upfront unless we sold de gea. But griezmann is a shorter term target and even if we missed out there are other playersof his calibre on the market. Who knows when another special player will come on the market. Woodward you know what to do. Sign mbappe and shirt sales will go though the roof anyway.
of course yes but he alone wasn't enough, mainly because the likes of Martial were poo. We pretty much needed Martial to play like Alli or Hazard, for us to get top 4 but hey.Perisic isn't a world class wide player that will score goals which is what we need, we struggled for goals outside of Zlatan until Rashford found his scoring boots towards the end of the season so with no Zlatan the onus would be too much on Morata and Rashford so we need goals from elsewhere.
I'd expect 10 goals each at least from Mkhitaryan, Mata and Pogba next season and probably at least that from Martial too but to challenge for the title and win cups we'd need 25-30 from Morata and Rashford each so a Sanchez or Bale or of that ilk is what's badly needed so we'd guarantee 15+ goals from out wide and I don't think Perisic is the answer at all.
I'm happy with Lindelof, Fabinho and Morata especially with Pereira also coming back which is like a new signing but still think we need a first choice left back so Rose or Mendy with Shaw as an alternative works for me which would also allow Blind to play centrally whether it be as a cover centre back or cover defensive midfielder seeing as it'll certainly be Carrick's last season.
I'd expect 10 goals each at least from Mkhitaryan, Mata and Pogba next season and probably at least that from Martial too but to challenge for the title and win cups we'd need 25-30 from Morata and Rashford each so a Sanchez or Bale or of that ilk is what's badly needed so we'd guarantee 15+ goals from out wide and I don't think Perisic is the answer at all.
I'm happy with Lindelof, Fabinho and Morata especially with Pereira also coming back which is like a new signing but still think we need a first choice left back so Rose or Mendy with Shaw as an alternative works for me which would also allow Blind to play centrally whether it be as a cover centre back or cover defensive midfielder seeing as it'll certainly be Carrick's last season.
I would be, if Zlatan had not picked up the injury.
Now that we've not renewed his contract, we need to bring goals, I don't expect Morata to scores as many as Zlatan did, let alone solve the problem that we had even with Zlatan 90 mins almost every game.
Desperately need another striker, an instinctive one, Belotti seem to fit the bill but Torino are playing hardball, not sure who else is available.
Now that we've not renewed his contract, we need to bring goals, I don't expect Morata to scores as many as Zlatan did, let alone solve the problem that we had even with Zlatan 90 mins almost every game.
Desperately need another striker, an instinctive one, Belotti seem to fit the bill but Torino are playing hardball, not sure who else is available.
I wouldn't but I'm hard to please. I'd be seriously underwhelmed by Perisic if it happens and know feck all about Lindelof (not judging him in any way).
He should try dembele the france international than perisic..does it take insane money to buy him ?my friends must be joking when saying that perisic is similar to dimaria.
Your friend was likely sleep talking
Not really
We would improve, but we wouldn't be a top team.
Lack a galactico signing, but all those players give us what we need. Finishing from Morata coupled with decently quick movement. Lindelof with the solid defending, ability to bring the ball up and add another dimension with the passing. Perisic with the width and actually being a winger, he has played wing back role too so we have extra cover there if needed urgently. Fabinho for the ability to defend really well and get the ball out advancing forwards! Hopefully we still land someone of Griezmanns level in the short term future, keeping De Gea is a signing itself! Hopefully Morata becomes what I don't expect for some few years if ever, and that's world class.
No. We still need a credible B2B who can fill in for Herrera when he needs a rest. Fellaini isn't going to cut it.
Ultimately its all about whether Mourinho gets the players he wants, not whether certain fans are excited about the players he wants.
The four listed are probably exactly what he's after barring the availability of the likes of Mbappe or the like.
The four listed are probably exactly what he's after barring the availability of the likes of Mbappe or the like.
Morata, Lindelof, Fabinho and Dembele and we'll be favorites to the win the league. Everyone has been after Mbappe who's obviously the most sought after this transfer window but Dembele is the one we should try and get especially when no one is lurking around at the moment. Dembele ran Walker ragged in the England game. He's got the ability to make a huge difference. His performances will automatically elevate the performances of everyone else.
When i say something like this im asked if 'people are allowed opinions' and a few people will harp on about how the manager makes mistakes. Then theyll tell me how a new formation and a few galacticos will make us win the treble.
Im counting down the days till pre-season starts so I can actually see our new players in action.
Not sure if there's enough goals in the side.
Would need Rashford or Martial to seriously improve on their goal scoring feats.
Would need Rashford or Martial to seriously improve on their goal scoring feats.
Yeah that's usually how it goes down. The reason for my last post was that there's this shiny new toy syndrome that seems to infest the transfer forum as if the manager is supposed to buy known commodities that transfer enthusiasts approve of. That's obviously not how it works. The manager buys to meet his own personal vision of what he wants the squad to achieve and there are often intangible characteristics that players have that are unknown to fans - stuff like character, attitude, attention to detail, training intensity, aptitude to improve etc.
I still think we need that creative winger like Silva or Dembele who can beat a couple players when the opposing team is set in their defensive shape.
Douglas Costa, William, and Lucas Moura are players who come to mind. Play Mkhi for the big games, bring the creative winger to unlock defenses when opponents park the bus.
Douglas Costa, William, and Lucas Moura are players who come to mind. Play Mkhi for the big games, bring the creative winger to unlock defenses when opponents park the bus.
Morata may not score as much as Zlatan but the main difference would be Morata is more dynamic. In many counterattack, zlatan wasn't very useful because he didn't have the speed to get to the other box. This is where Morata will help. He would get pogba mkhi mata martial and rashford performing better
Why do people often care about how well a player does in a counter attacking situation. Those opportunities appear less often and often reflect that the team has been under pressure.
What is more important is how well the player does in more normal open scenarios and against parked bus defences.
I agree with this. I think goals this season will come more. It seemed the players felt a lot of pressure last season, as of course they will this season, but I think a second year under Mourinho it will be different. Our defense will be even stronger now, and the CDM signing is the most important. Id rather us play a 4-1-3-2 than anything with Rashford and Morata (or whoever we sign as striker) up top.
Martial (even though I hate him not furthest up top, it's either him or Rashford), Pogba, and Gareth Bale.
Then that strong defensive midfield presence underneath them and we are golden personally.
I personally would rather sign two world class wingers and keep Rashford and Martial up top, although I know that's a massive gamble on those two. The thing is I think we've been missing pace and skill on the wings for so long, those two won't ever score as many as they should without it.
It's lack of pace on the wings. It slows our game down and makes its harder for us to really finish people off. Bale or Sanchez please. In a perfect world we would sign both.
he scored a good no.of goals for RM. I think his performance vs parked buses isnt in question here.
you are kidding right? We wouldnt get sanchez here. Fairly sure even city wont get him
I know it won't happen but the idea is to have someone with that style of play who will also score goals. I said in a perfect world it would be those two. Unlikely we could even get just one of them, but thats what our game needs. We've been playing with too many playmakers and not enough pace. If the two up top is that insane, then yes you can switch a Mikhi or Mata for the final striker. Ideally for me we would play three at the back, and sign two pacey wingbacks. The other 2 in the midfield would be Pogba, the CDM that we have yet to sign (who forever I was hoping Blind would fill.) Then Mikhi/Mata under Morata(preferably Martial) or whoever the main man lands and Rashford. I personally think that's a pretty hard team to beat. But we aren't too good at picking out talent that isn't over priced. That seems to be Chelsea's, City's, and sometimes Liverpools forte. Which is a shame.
What are the odds that Mikhi, Mata, Martial, Rashford, Lingard and Pogba will all miss the kinds of sitters they missed last season?
I think last season was an unusual one for those guys. They missed chances that astounded me. Pogba could easily have had 8 goals and 8 assists more last season.
Jose's biggest task next season is not merely signing good players but also getting many of the current ones to find their scoring mojo's again. Imagine if Mikhi, Martial, Rashford, Mata and Pogba can hit double digits in goal scoring terms next season.
Just adding players won't solve the goal scoring issue. We scored 49 goals in 2015-16 season, then added Pogba, Mkhitaryan, Zlatan and ended up with only 54 goals. Just adding few more players who scored good number of goals elswhere is not the only solution, there is a good chance that it isn't even the solution. Adding too many players means team will always lack chemistry, new players again needs time to adapt and all that. What we have to change is how we attack, it's to do with with how Jose sets up his team.
For example, Chelsea had the same attack but added Kante, Alonso and few other defenders, their goals in last 3 seasons - 73, 59, 85.
Spurs had the same attack in last 2 league seasons, their goals - 69 and 86. Some of the other players stepped up too.
That's what we should be expecting instead of just signing few more attackers. We should be doing much more to bring the best out of players like Mkhitaryan, Martial, Rashford, Mata who are all better players than what they showed last season. I think you can also look at how Monaco did, they didn't sign any star player or many attackers but they went from being defensive team to all out attacking and their attackers did superbly (along with emergence of Mbappe).
Good post.
I'd be relatively happy although I'd still want us to bring in another striker, Morata would be too pressured much like ibra this year to score all our goals. I'd love us to sign Hernandez back feck LVG for selling him in the first place the moron.
Morata
Lindalof
Fabinho
Perisic
Hernandez
And I'll sleep soundly at night.
Morata
Lindalof
Fabinho
Perisic
Hernandez
And I'll sleep soundly at night.
who buys players that isnt overpriced? City? City who bought Stones for 50? Sane for 37? Bravo for 17?
every team loves 2 world class wingers but that wouldnt necessarily make it balanced. Making attacking wingers and fullbacks will most often lead to us conceding on the counter. Someone like Perisic may not be world class but he is good on both sides of the pitch from what people who regularly watch him every week seem to know. I have watched both a few times and based on that Perisic is better than Costa for instance, who is being branded as the dream signing
Interesting theory there. That said, Chelseas 2nd season was an anomaly as they downed tools, they also added Pedro and they had a complete system change that practically gave them 3 strikers. It is doubtful we change ours that much. The thing is, none of them have as weak attack as ours though. 49 then 54 league goals consecutively. There is something fundamentally wrong with United in an attacking sense. Could be composure or lack of quality. In Jose's teams, individual attacking quality seems more important as ex players suggested that he doesn't guide/advise them on how to attack. He does so defensively as we saw with Luke Shaw though lol
I'd be happy.
Bold part, not sure that's what ex player said. It was more fan theory IIRC. Also it doesn't make sense considering Jose's team always scored lot of goals. Also in 2013-14, only Liverpool and City scored more goals than Chelsea and their attack was Hazard (class player) and then players like Eto'o, Torres, Oscar, Ba (either average or washed up players).
Pogba, Mkhitaryan, Zlatan all came with big reputation, if they can't improve (along with Jose methods) then the chances are slim even if we add few more star players. Like I said, it's all to do with how Jose sets up his team. We have to play with higher tempo and commit lot more players forward.
Pedro was very poor last season and he improved this season. We should be show some patience with our players. For all the praise Spurs full back gets, it took them more than 5-6 years to show their quality.
It was Hazard actually. That same attack scored more goals under Benitez the year before so it must of been capable.
I do agree with you on many points and the set up of the team is crucial. And again, we did create a lot last season but lacked that quality/killer instinct in the final 3rd.
I disagree, that attack was poor. Their top scorers under Benitez was Lampard, Mata. Lampard played one more season before moving to MLS and Mata was sold. Their goals was spread out though out the squad with everyone chipping in with 3-4 goals. Their attack was poor.
I agree we created lot of chances last season and our finishing let us down. Something that can be and should be improved.