Would you be happy with Morata, Fabinho, Lindelof and Perisic?

Would you be happy with Morata, Fabinho, Lindelof and Perisic?

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Kylar Stern said:
We had that last season; we came 6th in the league. It's not all about buying that one player that turns things around, its about pulling some semblance of a team together and getting them to perform.
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We didn't have that though. Pogba is not one of the top 10 attackers in the world by any stretch and isn't a match winner. people misjudged his role
 
Would be a good window, like others though, I still feel like we are missing that x-factor in the final third.

Perisic and Mkhitaryan are both strong defensively. Those two in a 4-3-3 with Pogba, Herrera and Fabinho playing behind Morata wouldn't provide enough goals to win the league in my opinion. What their defensive discipline allows is for the addition of a number 10 in the majority of games where we are trying to break teams down.

Replace Rooney with a #10 who can bag us 15 goals and I'd be delighted. But if that's our lot I would rather we shifted Mkhitaryan to 10 and brought Martial or Rashford in out wide.
 
Faetheshire86 said:
Would be a good window, like others though, I still feel like we are missing that x-factor in the final third.

Perisic and Mkhitaryan are both strong defensively. Those two in a 4-3-3 with Pogba, Herrera and Fabinho playing behind Morata wouldn't provide enough goals to win the league in my opinion. What their defensive discipline allows is for the addition of a number 10 in the majority of games where we are trying to break teams down.

Replace Rooney with a #10 who can bag us 15 goals and I'd be delighted. But if that's our lot I would rather we shifted Mkhitaryan to 10 and brought Martial or Rashford in out wide.
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The only player that is available for that No.10 role is James. But Madrid will fleece us even more.
 
I'd be happy with it.

I'd line up like this...

......................DE GEA.........................
VALENCIA...BAILLY...LINDELOF...DARMIAN
.....................FABINHO........................
..............HERRERA......POGBA................
.MKHITARYAN..........................PERISIC.
........................MORATA......................

It addresses the most pressing issues. In an ideal world I wouldn't have Mkhitaryan on the right as I don't think he's a great winger but it's the best option for now. 4 signings is enough to integrate over one window. I'd want a new left back as well but Darmian did do a job last season so that also will have to wait. Can't replace everyone in one window. Just shows how bad the squad is when 4 signings is maybe not enough to sort every problem. But I think it's enough for now. This starting XI will challenge for the league. With Rashford, Martial, Mata, Carrick, Blind etc. to come in as and when required we should do well with this.
 
abhayselvan said:
The only player that is available for that No.10 role is James. But Madrid will fleece us even more.
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Since they don't need to sell, they would demand a larger fee than the Pogba deal as James is only a year older, has shown his quality in their league as midfielder of the year and also World Cup performances.
 
Think the above would finish 6th again and score less goals than last season. Either Woodward would be culpable of not opening the purse strings enough to strengthen more positions or Jose would have badly misread the situation. Lets just hope it doesn't end up as the above. As most on here have noticed, we need more than Morata to replace Ibra and Rooney, and that Perisic is not much of an upgrade at all, and we need a more offensive LB. Even if we have to sell to buy we still should.
 
its impossible that our strikers/attackers miss that many chances again. no way something like that will happen again, doesn't matter who we buy or dont buy.

i would be happy with them even if i dont think we are even in for fabinho. but some midfielder will come for sure.
 
OohAahMartial said:
Think the above would finish 6th again and score less goals than last season. Either Woodward would be culpable of not opening the purse strings enough to strengthen more positions or Jose would have badly misread the situation. Lets just hope it doesn't end up as the above. As most on here have noticed, we need more than Morata to replace Ibra and Rooney, and that Perisic is not much of an upgrade at all, and we need a more offensive LB. Even if we have to sell to buy we still should.
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I think we'll open the purse strings as much as anyone. Don't you think integrating more than 4 players over one window is also a risky prospect?
 
Noc-Z said:
I think we'll open the purse strings as much as anyone. Don't you think integrating more than 4 players over one window is also a risky prospect?
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Have to weigh the risks of integrating or a player flopping against the certainty of Rooney being past it, Darmian being unable to attack and making any left winger barely half effective, and Martial/Rashford having a 10 percent chance conversion which won't suddenly improve to 25%. This season was enough proof that our attack is weak. If we started playing 4-3-3 with Perisic-Morata-Mhki we will score less than last season and probably concede less too. We finished 6th and it will be very difficult to finish above City, Liverpool Spurs and Chelsea who will all strengthen, and probably more so than the above would provide.
 
Noc-Z said:
I'd be happy with it.

I'd line up like this...

......................DE GEA.........................
VALENCIA...BAILLY...LINDELOF...DARMIAN
.....................FABINHO........................
..............HERRERA......POGBA................
.MKHITARYAN..........................PERISIC.
........................MORATA......................

It addresses the most pressing issues. In an ideal world I wouldn't have Mkhitaryan on the right as I don't think he's a great winger but it's the best option for now. 4 signings is enough to integrate over one window. I'd want a new left back as well but Darmian did do a job last season so that also will have to wait. Can't replace everyone in one window. Just shows how bad the squad is when 4 signings is maybe not enough to sort every problem. But I think it's enough for now. This starting XI will challenge for the league. With Rashford, Martial, Mata, Carrick, Blind etc. to come in as and when required we should do well with this.
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News flash, it doesn't and really wouldn't. Who are the goal getters? Just to let you know, the top 2 teams scored 85 + goals. That is what is needed. We have lost, Zlatan and only replaced him with Morata who may not be as good. FYI Spurs front 4/5 in the league read - Kane 29, Alli 18, Son 14, Eriksen 8 (69 total). Chelsea's read - Costa 20, Hazard 16, Pedro 9, Willian 8 (53). Chelsea also got about 11 goals from their defenders etc. I ask you, who are the goalscorers in our team? We would need a complete turnaround of goal scoring form/ability in our squad to mount a title challenge. This isn't Serie A. Pogba scored like 3 league goals last season. Miki about 4. basically this formation relies on a complete leap of faith, which doesn't typically win you titles. Its the Wenger method. We needed another consistent match winner who was ready now. Perisic and Mkhitaryan are both supporting cast players (a Pedro or a Willian) but not match winners themselves. If Chelsea had just Pedro and Willan with Costa, they would come 3rd most likely.
 
I would be okey with it but feel we need another attacker/striker on top of that.
Really dont wanna see us struggeling for goals again
 
Stacks said:
News flash, it doesn't and really wouldn't. Who are the goal getters? Just to let you know, the top 2 teams scored 85 + goals. That is what is needed. We have lost, Zlatan and only replaced him with Morata who may not be as good. FYI Spurs front 4/5 in the league read - Kane 29, Alli 18, Son 14, Eriksen 8 (69 total). Chelsea's read - Costa 20, Hazard 16, Pedro 9, Willian 8 (53). Chelsea also got about 11 goals from their defenders etc. I ask you, who are the goalscorers in our team? We would need a complete turnaround of goal scoring form/ability in our squad to mount a title challenge. This isn't Serie A. Pogba scored like 3 league goals last season. Miki about 4. basically this formation relies on a complete leap of faith, which doesn't typically win you titles. Its the Wenger method. We needed another consistent match winner who was ready now. Perisic and Mkhitaryan are both supporting cast players (a Pedro or a Willian) but not match winners themselves. If Chelsea had just Pedro and Willan with Costa, they would come 3rd most likely.
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Well it's uncertain, as we don't know how Morata would take to the Premier league, but it's not impossible that he can match Ibras goal record. He missed plenty of sitters. He should have turned some of those draws into 3 points, so chances were created. He had plenty of opportunities to score more. And with a proper CDM behind him Pogba should be able to push on and contribute more. Mkhitaryan got 23 goals in his last season with Borrussia Dortmund so he has goals in him. I'm not his biggest fan I admit, but would you give up on him after one season? If you don't endorse 4-3-3 what would you prefer? 4-2-3-1? We could do that with these additions, Herrera would probably drop out though and I don't think he deserves to. So we'd have a 2 of Pogba and Fabinho. Mkhitaryan or Mata would be 10 and the wings would be Perisic and Rashford/Martial, something like that. There's no doubt the squad has major problems. And as I said, these 4 don't address every issue. But I feel adding more than 4 over one window is going to be too much. That's just my personal opinion though. It's a sad reflection of the state of the squad that we need so much addressed.
 
I'd be happy with that window but it sounds like Fabino isn't on the table. Perhaps Herrera is seen as the "holding" midfielder and we are going to go for another box to box or perhaps a more creative midfielder? Not sure who else we could be looking at but suspect it will be a deal that happens fairly fast and sort of out of nowhere like Bailly last season.

4 a window is enough. 4 last season all did well for the team and 3 remain and should have important roles this season, if 3 of the 4 we sign this summer cement their places as such that will be a major positive. Results will improve I'm sure of it. Then next summer it will be about putting the final piece or two into the jigsaw and going to really challenge on all fronts for a few seasons. Jose is building something good here and blending the ages and experience/hunger level very well.
 
Noc-Z said:
Well it's uncertain, as we don't know how Morata would take to the Premier league, but it's not impossible that he can match Ibras goal record. He missed plenty of sitters. He should have turned some of those draws into 3 points, so chances were created. He had plenty of opportunities to score more. And with a proper CDM behind him Pogba should be able to push on and contribute more. Mkhitaryan got 23 goals in his last season with Borrussia Dortmund so he has goals in him. I'm not his biggest fan I admit, but would you give up on him after one season? If you don't endorse 4-3-3 what would you prefer? 4-2-3-1? We could do that with these additions, Herrera would probably drop out though and I don't think he deserves to. So we'd have a 2 of Pogba and Fabinho. Mkhitaryan or Mata would be 10 and the wings would be Perisic and Rashford/Martial, something like that. There's no doubt the squad has major problems. And as I said, these 4 don't address every issue. But I feel adding more than 4 over one window is going to be too much. That's just my personal opinion though. It's a sad reflection of the state of the squad that we need so much addressed.
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He scored 11 in the league, 3 the season before and 9 before that. Average is 7-8 league goals per season which is 'supporting cast' numbers. I will never give up on Henrikh. I have an irrational love of him but he isn't enough.
4 3 3 is good, just not with those choice of wing forwards. You have to compensate for not having 4-4-2 with goals from 2 strikers.
 
In answer to the OP, I know it's greedy but I feel we'd be one attacking player short.
 
fcbforever said:
Just the truth. Attack is incredible mediocre with those players. Periodic should never get near a starting position at a club like United.
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Thank you! Finally some sense. Not only do people want Perisic but they are happy spending 40-50m to get him.
 
We need another player for the output quite simply, another 10 or winger. We would have bought Griezmann, so no reason to buy no one if he wont come now. feck him and buy someone
 
As of right now I don't think those signings are going to be that big an improvement on our goal tally. Morata is a down grade on Zlatan, but we had no choice with Zlatan's injury and there isn't a better striker than him available anyway. Not being linked with a right sided winger is not good either.

Got to hope Martial/Mkhi do a lot better than last season. The LB role has to do a lot more to help the attack also.
 
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I don't think Morata is going to get us enough goals to make up for missing Ibra nevermind how far off we were the other top clubs last season with him.
 
LeftyBlaster said:
Good points regarding the underrating of how far he pushes opposing fullbacks. I'm probably guilty of it. I wish there was a reincarnation of Lahm we could sign though.
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So do I buddy. If there was a Lahm-Incarnate out there though, he'd be snapped up by a CL contending team. We're two seasons away from that. Which is why I think Jose will spend longer here than he's spent anywhere.

Jose asks less of his full backs than some managers. He rarely wants them to be dynamic. He turned potentially the best bith-ways full-back into the best defensive full-back after all (Cole)

His centre backs, midfielders and centre forward are where he will spend his money.
 
goin4glory said:
I don't think Morata is going to get us enough goals to make up for missing Ibra nevermind how far off we were the other top clubs last season with him.
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He'll score as many or more, if we finish higher in the table.

Kind of a circular statement. But if Jose 'fixes' our wife forwards and 10 (if he plays one), our principle forward will score more than Ibra did.
 
Would people be happy with the far more likely out come of perisic, morata and lindelof? No real concrete links to Fabinho.

Personally I believe we aren't looking to add a new first choice CM, maybe just some competition. Seem more likely to either add a number ten or bring in Griezmann next summer. Think we have almost unlimited gunpowder to add a #10 or a right winger if we want one, just need the right player to be available and not spend for spendings sake when Mhiki is pretty good as is Mata
 
I am actually surprised that people are excited if we stop at these four signings. We already wanted to sign Griezmann, while we had a healthy Zlatan. That supposed to be our answer to increase our goal tally.

Now that we will not have both, how exactly Morata (who may not reach Zlatan's numbers) and Perisic (who does not specialise in scoring lots of goals) will be enough for an even more difficult season, in which we have to aim higher in Premier League and we also have Champions League, a far more demanding competition than Europa?

Yes, we will probably be a better team overall, hardworking, even more stable in defence (Lindelof) and in our transition play from defense to attack (Fabinho), and even at our pressing up front. However, is this enough to score much more, which was our main issue? Even if Miki, Martial, Rashford & Mata perform much better would it be enough? We will base the whole season again on the same inconsistent players. We cannot afford to do that again, they have to earn their place in the first eleven.

I truly believe we will be one top attacking signing away (provided we sign all those four) from challenging everything. Even if we cannot have this window one of Griezmann, Sanchez, Bale, Dybala and etcetera, we can search for a clever signing to help us unlock defences. A second striker, who can play in the '10' position in 4231 or in the wings in 433. I hope Mourinho will not go with this risk to the season, usually his transfers in his second seasons are spot on.
 
As a neutral, I think those 4 would be a great transfer window for United. I think Morata and Perisic are a little underrated on here.
 
Cascarino said:
As a neutral, I think those 4 would be a great transfer window for United. I think Morata and Perisic are a little underrated on here.
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Spot on, both are top draw and exactly what we need, Morata will be an absolute hit for us and Perisic will grow on the fans with his work rate and dedication (another Valencia)
 
I would be delighted with Morata and Fabinho. I think that both suit us perfectly well and will be great players under Mourinho.

I have no idea about Lindelof. Until United posted that we signed him, I thought that he was just another Benfica player that the media link with us. Considering that I haven't seen him play that much, I don't have an opinion on him, but I trust Mourinho on this, and he rarely is wrong with defenders.

I find Perisic an extremely uninspiring scenario. A better version of Ashley Young, a winger who is signed mostly because of his workrate rather than talent. I really would prefer a better player there (or even, go all in with Martial). I am just a bit afraid that Mourinho is making a kind of defensive team.

Will be quite happy though. All players suit Mourinho's style, and that should allow us to play the way he wants. Obviously, I would have preferred some other players, but the only important thing is to get the player the manager wants. And then he has to live with the results, no excuses there.
 
Well, yes.

Not exactly unhappy, at any rate.

Whether it's enough to challenge for the title is another question entirely. I'd say not in itself. But we depend on the team, as a whole, doing much better in terms of offensive cohesion or whatever you want to call it. Which would be true regardless of who we bring in.

If we are to transform into an actual top team, we probably rely quite heavily on several of this season's underperformers to step up their game rather dramatically.

If we land Fabinho, we stand a good chance of fielding a well balanced midfield with sufficient individual quality – at least. And at long last, one could say. Which will be important.
 
Mkhi and Morata would be the only real goal threat. Pogba might weigh in too.
 
An Irish Red said:
That would still be a poor front line. Lingard is average, Rashford isn't much better; Mkhitaryan and Martial are inconsistent, nobody knows how Morata will adapt and Martins is incredibly raw.

There's no way we'd challenge for the title with that.
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Lingard, Rashford and Martin are great cover. We can't have players that we bought for forty million plus sitting on bench. Morata, Mhkitaryan and Martial are poor compared to who? I believe that front three is better than most top club beside the likes of Barcelona, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich. You stated inconsistencies as your argument towards Mhkitaryan and Martial quality. However, you do not deny that they are good player. As such, I believe consistent selection in the first team will get the best out of these two. Morata is an unknown but I believe he can adapt to the league. Overall, it is about getting the front three to gel, rather than filling it with galacticos with no chemistry.

I believe if we get Aubrameyang over Morata though, that might make the attack more potent.
 
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Yes, it addresses 4 positions of need. I would also like a left back but realize there are not too many targets out there and Monaco will not sell us both Mendy and Fabinho.

The only one in there I am not that sure about is Perišič I think we could get a better winger. I cannot get over the fact that Inter got him for €16m and he hasn't really lit up Serie A with his performances. Explosive, good player but Mkhitaryan, for example, is a better footballer I feel.
 
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