Would you be happy with Morata, Fabinho, Lindelof and Perisic?

Would you be happy with Morata, Fabinho, Lindelof and Perisic?


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I disagree, that attack was poor. Their top scorers under Benitez was Lampard, Mata. Lampard played one more season before moving to MLS and Mata was sold. Their goals was spread out though out the squad with everyone chipping in with 3-4 goals. Their attack was poor.

I agree we created lot of chances last season and our finishing let us down. Something that can be and should be improved.
Torres bagged more than 20.
I feel it is a bit hopeful to believe our attackers will suddenly go from a 10% conversion rate to 20-30% just like that, which is why I believe we need actual quality there in the mean time. Martial and Rashford need space to develop and make mistakes so I won't bank on them suddenly coming good.
 
Torres bagged more than 20.
I feel it is a bit hopeful to believe our attackers will suddenly go from a 10% conversion rate to 20-30% just like that, which is why I believe we need actual quality there in the mean time. Martial and Rashford need space to develop and make mistakes so I won't bank on them suddenly coming good.

Torres scored 8 in the league, overall 22 in 64 games.

Confidence also plays big part imo. I think with Morata our attacking options are good. I'm obviously against wholesale chances especially in the attack where players need to anticipate other player movements which takes lot of time to develop. Changing a lot will against put us back few steps. Obviously there are exceptions like Costa and Fabregas who were superb from the word go but that's very rate.
 
We would improve, but we wouldn't be a top team.

Agreed

We would be very hard to beat, but we still wouldn't score enough. We need to add one more attaching player at 10 or 7 then we are ready for a title challenge.

I personally think James would be perfect.
 
Torres bagged more than 20.
I feel it is a bit hopeful to believe our attackers will suddenly go from a 10% conversion rate to 20-30% just like that, which is why I believe we need actual quality there in the mean time. Martial and Rashford need space to develop and make mistakes so I won't bank on them suddenly coming good.

I don't think it ever helps Mourinho is ultra defensive at times, we play way too narrow for my liking instead of trying to stretch the play and relying on valencia to be that width. With the possibility of persic signing, for me I don't think is going to upgrade on what we have got. I do think we have speed in our side, just don't think Mourinho gets the best out of our more dynamic players, and it never helps when we have guys like lingard and fellaini in our team. PPL say we miss our chances, players are human I just think we need to be allot more dynamic, and on rare occasions do we even use the ability to counter attack with speed. So Mourinho needs to evolve his teams to be more quicker, not mindless attack, but show that his teams will go out there to kill not hold back
 
Just adding players won't solve the goal scoring issue. We scored 49 goals in 2015-16 season, then added Pogba, Mkhitaryan, Zlatan and ended up with only 54 goals. Just adding few more players who scored good number of goals elswhere is not the only solution, there is a good chance that it isn't even the solution. Adding too many players means team will always lack chemistry, new players again needs time to adapt and all that. What we have to change is how we attack, it's to do with with how Jose sets up his team.

For example, Chelsea had the same attack but added Kante, Alonso and few other defenders, their goals in last 3 seasons - 73, 59, 85.
Spurs had the same attack in last 2 league seasons, their goals - 69 and 86. Some of the other players stepped up too.

That's what we should be expecting instead of just signing few more attackers. We should be doing much more to bring the best out of players like Mkhitaryan, Martial, Rashford, Mata who are all better players than what they showed last season. I think you can also look at how Monaco did, they didn't sign any star player or many attackers but they went from being defensive team to all out attacking and their attackers did superbly (along with emergence of Mbappe).
Gotta agree with this.
 
I highly doubt we'll get James Rodriguez given that if we sign Griezmann next summer that would basically push him out of the side..

He could play on the wing but that would be quite redundant and we probably need to stop signing no 10s and playing them on the wing.

At this point I'm beginning to think the 4 mentioned in the title of this thread will be all we get and we'll have to wait till next summer on longer term targets like Griezmann.

Won't be ideal but better in the long run if we take the long term approach.
 
I agree goals would be a concern however that's not to say the team would lack balance. I think the 4 signings would give the team tremendous balance something like this when on the ball

-------------De Gea-------------
----------Bailly--Lindelof--Blind
-------------Fabinho-------------
------Herrera------Pogba------
Valencia---Mkhitaryan---Perisic
-------------Morata-------------

(And then obviously a standard 4-3-3 when we dont have the ball with Valencia back in his normal RB position)

That XI gives you width on both sides of the field with 4 defensive players covering any counter attacks, Herrera being the B2B, Pogba and Mkhitaryan with a somewhat of a free role and Morata as the focal point

Griezmann would be the dream to take the Mkhitaryan position given his goal return but that'll have to wait till another transfer window

EDIT: you could argue Darmian for Blind at LB and Mata for Mkhitaryan not to mention Rashford and Martial on the bench as well. Lots of options!!

Please make this happen. It would be the first coherent team for many years- it's actually similar in style to Mourinho's 2005 league winning Chelsea side. Against lower league opposition who park the bus you could replace Fabinho with Mata/Rashford.
 
I think so.

I'm not sold on Perisic but Morata and Lindelof sound like good players and are a good age. Fabinho sounds like exactly what we need, in midfield.
 
I'm not really enthusiastic about any of them.. Good players but I'm not jumping up and down.

We need a left back - if Shaw isn't going to sort himself out then we need someone. Blind and Darmian are shite.

And an inspiring signing to lift the club would be fantastic. A RvP, a Falcao (sure he was crap, but it was great having a modern day legendary striker!!) a Di Maria... If Sanchez is available I think it's utter madness not being in for him.
 
Morata, Fabinho and Lindelof, yes.

Perisic, no.

Also, I can't see us getting Fabinho going by the whispers so he'd be replaced by someone I probably wouldn't be keen on, so it'd be a 50-50 summer for me personally.
 
Overall a very difficult transfer window with only one signing confirmed... I would go for Morata, Fabinho and Lindelof.
Another winger would be a bit better but well, we don't have all the information available.
Maybe others have strongly rejected us, for whatever the reason.
 
Overall a very difficult transfer window with only one signing confirmed... I would go for Morata, Fabinho and Lindelof.
Another winger would be a bit better but well, we don't have all the information available.
Maybe others have strongly rejected us, for whatever the reason.
The transfer window isnt open till July the 1st so how exactly has it been a difficult transfer window ?
 
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To be honest, I've not seen any of them enough to make absolute judgements but I do think Morata will surprise a few people and although not prolific yet, he has all the tools and at 24, will only get better.

Saying that, I would expect a bit more in terms of creativity/excitement, given that it's a huge problem with our squad - lots of time to go and who knows but it would be a 'functional' window with an improvement level not worth the £200m or so it would cost...largely irrelevant but ultimately I don't think it would turn us into genuine title contenders.
 
We need a right winger, not a left winger. If Perišić can play it on high level, which I doubt, than it's ok. Much better players in same price range are available.
 
I'm happy if this highly successful manager is happy. If he doesn't get what he really wants or at least what he thinks he needs then I'm not happy. The singings names mean nothing. 2 consecutive years he's bought for the spine of the team. It says an awful lot about what he thought of the squad before he came. What were the last two managers actually at that we still need a completely new spine after Fergie?
 
It would concern me that whilst we'd probably do well against the top teams, and either draw, or win by the odd goal in these games, we'd still be quite ugly to watch, and would struggle to break down the smaller teams who sit back, a bit like last season, we need to add a bit of flair aswell.
 
The lack of rumors for left backs is worrying me. We desperately need someone better than the current bunch. Otherwise it will be irrelevant who we get for left wing.
 
I think Shaw will be like a new signing and have a career year in 2017/2018. His contract runs out next June (club option for 2018/2019). If he wants to keep playing for a big club and collecting big club pay checks, he'll get focused and play like he's capable of. He needs a big year if he wants to represent England at the WC.
 
Yes, because Martial Shaw Rashford Miki are all going to step up a notch next season.
Their talent is the reason I would like to bet on these players to improve rather than buying new players. If they start performing near their potential level next season, it would feel like new signings. If it is Griezmann level player coming in, i'm all in on that. But mediocre players like Persic, we do not need.

I hope Shaw and Martial improve their partnership on left side. We haven't had good partnership on left side since Evra and Park.
 
The lack of rumors for left backs is worrying me. We desperately need someone better than the current bunch. Otherwise it will be irrelevant who we get for left wing.
I dont think so. LB has not really been an issue towards the end of last season. Defensively, we're rather solid. Upfront and in midfield is where we struggle
 
I dont think so. LB has not really been an issue towards the end of last season. Defensively, we're rather solid. Upfront and in midfield is where we struggle
LB shouldn't just be a defensive position!! It was a massive issue for us, we were the most predictable team in the league with our pass to Valencia and go forward tactic.
 
---------------De Gea------------
Valencia---Bailly--Lindelof---------Blind
---------------Fabinho--------------------
---------Herrera--Pogba-----------------
Mkhi----------Morata------------Perisic

That's a team that will score less goals than we did this season. Mkhi and Perisic are both notoriously shite in front of goal, Morata is new to the league, the midfield can't score and we have no arial threat at the back.

It would be a poor window in my eyes and we'd do well to make top 4 with that team.
 
LB shouldn't just be a defensive position!! It was a massive issue for us, we were the most predictable team in the league with our pass to Valencia and go forward tactic.
But that was mainly because our attacking players were below par. This season, I am sure things will get better. And looking at Jose's past teams, he did not play two attacking full backs. Hence I think he will leave the LB position for another season and keep working with Shaw, Blind and Darmian
 
But that was mainly because our attacking players were below par. This season, I am sure things will get better. And looking at Jose's past teams, he did not play two attacking full backs. Hence I think he will leave the LB position for another season and keep working with Shaw, Blind and Darmian
That's because he played 4231. If we play a 433 with a defensive fullback we'll be just as dull going forwards as we have been all season. The game has moved on from defensive full backs, Jose should too.
 
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---------------De Gea------------
Valencia---Bailly--Lindelof---------Blind
---------------Fabinho--------------------
---------Herrera--Pogba-----------------
Mkhi----------Morata------------Perisic

That's a team that will score less goals than we did this season. Mkhi and Perisic are both notoriously shite in front of goal, Morata is new to the league, the midfield can't score and we have no arial threat at the back.

It would be a poor window in my eyes and we'd do well to make top 4 with that team.
Have to agree. Neither Perisic nor Miki have been known as reliable finishers throughout their careers and have pretty inconsistent scoring histories. I anticipate more profligacy in front of goal and a low league goal scoring tally. Would love to be wrong though.
 
That's because he played 4231. If we play a 433 with a defensive fullback we'll be just as dull going forwards as we have been all season. The game has moved on from defensive full backs, Jose should too.
It does not really depend on the formation, but how he sets up the players. Whether we play 4231 or 433 does not really matter under Jose
 
That's because he played 4231. If we play a 433 with a defensive fullback we'll be just as dull going forwards as we have been all season. The game has moved on from defensive full backs, Jose should too.

Nope. It's the opposite. The game has moved on from both fullbacks going gung ho.
 
At this rate with the non Fabinho links, I'd snap your hands off for just these 4.
 
Nope. It's the opposite. The game has moved on from both fullbacks going gung ho.
La liga winners and 2nd place, Champions league winners, Premier league winners and 2nd place, Ligue 1 winners, Serie a winners......

If the games moved on i think someone forgot to remind everyone.
 
I think that would be a good window. We need a lot of players to upgrade all at the same time. We finished 6th and simply that's not good enough. If you look individually at the last season to the players that this scenario comes into the squad its a big plus. Lindelof is a big plus in defence, an upgrade on all players, perhaps Bailley apart. Fabinho is a player were crying out for. A ball playing DM or cover for RB. Perisic is a proper LW, something we don't have. Morata is a quick skilful striker who knows where the back of the net is, and will improve our goals for column. They are all top players, and they are all achievable, that's the main thing.
 
---------------De Gea------------
Valencia---Bailly--Lindelof---------Blind
---------------Fabinho--------------------
---------Herrera--Pogba-----------------
Mkhi----------Morata------------Perisic

That's a team that will score less goals than we did this season. Mkhi and Perisic are both notoriously shite in front of goal, Morata is new to the league, the midfield can't score and we have no arial threat at the back.

It would be a poor window in my eyes and we'd do well to make top 4 with that team.

I think this season pogba will grow and chip in with at least 10 goals. He was unlucky last season, hitting the post and bar a lot. This will be the year of the pog
 
La liga winners and 2nd place, Champions league winners, Premier league winners and 2nd place, Ligue 1 winners, Serie a winners......

If the games moved on i think someone forgot to remind everyone.

PL winners and second placed team play a back 3. None of the other PL teams really play two attacking fullbacks.
 
PL winners and second placed team play a back 3. None of the other PL teams really play two attacking fullbacks.
Yeah the back 3 are not fullbacks though, their wingbacks spend a lot of time in the final third. Monaco play with 2 attacking fullbacks, Real Madrid play with the most attaking fullbacks in Europe, Juventus play with 2 attacking wingbacks...... The best teams either have a DM to cover both going forwards or a back 3 to stabalise the defence.

Name a top team right now that plays with a defensive fullback who offers nothing past the halfway line?
 
PL winners and second placed team play a back 3. None of the other PL teams really play two attacking fullbacks.
Ive been thinking about this. We haven't been linked with fabinho or a left back and we buy an extra CB. Is it possible Mourinho is going for 3-4-3? I'm not arguing the merits of this system. We all know it hasn't worked before etc. But with the players linked maybe that's what's happening?
---------------De Gea------------
-----Bailly--Lindelof--Rojo---
Valencia--Herrera--Pogba--Perisic
Mkhi/Mata---Morata---Martial/Rashford
 
It would be progress for sure, so if it turned out that's our signings I'd be very happy. It's about buying the right player for the right position. Mou always had a preference for at least one winger to be an absolute workhorse. Perisic is of the mould alright. Defence and Midfield sorted for years. Attack would be getting there. Under Jose you will always sacrifice a bit on the total football side, but the key is we have always created chances under him - now it's about the squad delivering and scoring equally.