The marquee signing has slipped through the cracks (griezmann). Morata is marquee ish but Perisic and co are not even in the same conversation as the players you've listed, who had been doing the biz for for years.
Would you be happy with Morata, Fabinho, Lindelof and Perisic?
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Looking at it like that, fair point
Would be a tough call for me. Nothing against Perisic, but I think we could and should do better there. Still haven't addressed LB, where the current options are lack luster to say the least. And would still need another midfielder.
Overall, I voted no, but it's close. Just seems to be a really tough transfer window across Europe so far, in regards to not a lot of great players available and the prices for who is are astronomical. Waiting for the first few dominoes to fall before the marquee signings start to fall in place for the big clubs quickly.
Overall, I voted no, but it's close. Just seems to be a really tough transfer window across Europe so far, in regards to not a lot of great players available and the prices for who is are astronomical. Waiting for the first few dominoes to fall before the marquee signings start to fall in place for the big clubs quickly.
On paper, this should be a respectable and decent transfer window as we have signed a key player in each position we badly need reinforcement but somehow it still seem rather underwhelming to me, probably because none of them are big names. I was hoping we can get a player like Griezmann, Aubameyang, Rodriguez, Veratti who are all available and I'm sure we can get them if we try. With that being said, if we can sign those 4 players and add in a quality midfielder who can control the ball well like Matic, I'd be more than happy with our transfer window.
I would want to see one potentially world class player come in at least before I get excited, as well as the upgrades. None are the former, and Perisic and Matic (though he's not on the OP list) aren't really the latter.
Maybe I expect too much.
Maybe I expect too much.
Agreed. Even Morata is only potentially marquee ish, i don't think he has done enough to allow him be reasonably considered one of the best in his position.
I don't get this 'astronomical fee' stuff.
Football clubs on the whole, and more specifically in England are dripping with cash, from sponsorship / TV and still charge feck loads for tickets, kits, drinks etc.
They rinse the fans, so I don't mind seeing some of these greedy feckers get the same treatment.
Football clubs on the whole, and more specifically in England are dripping with cash, from sponsorship / TV and still charge feck loads for tickets, kits, drinks etc.
They rinse the fans, so I don't mind seeing some of these greedy feckers get the same treatment.
Not really but if that's what Mourinho wants so be it. No excuses though at the end of the season.
Yeah, it's not a difficult one to wrap your head around even for those with fairly limited powers of imagination (like myself). If it's a struggle for you, @Sassy Colin, then I can't imagine it requires too much restraint to simply not vote?
The way I saw it was this thread had a very simple question and had generated interest for most of this month, so it's worth putting a poll out there to get a quick read on things. The fact 300-odd people voted for it within a few hours suggests most people didn't have an issue with it - we have just 471 members online at the moment, as a quick benchmark - and to me it's interesting to see that people are very much split on it.
My happiness isn't predicated on transfers.
I doubt it is what he wants though. For whatever reason, Woodward isn't doing a star turn this transfer window (yet). Hope he doesn't sign some 35 year old big name at the last minute to save his reputation.
I would be a little disappointed as I don't think we are addressing the issue of goalscoring as much as we need to.
Perhaps mourinho believes Morata can match zlatan's tally?
Perhaps he feels Perisic will give us the added goals we need?
Maybe even fabinho's signature frees up more space for Pogba to break forward and become a greater goal threat?
Perhaps he thinks mkhitaryan, martial and Rashford will have more productive seasons in front of goal?
Maybe he'll even stick Lindelof up front and play two up top?
Perhaps mourinho believes Morata can match zlatan's tally?
Perhaps he feels Perisic will give us the added goals we need?
Maybe even fabinho's signature frees up more space for Pogba to break forward and become a greater goal threat?
Perhaps he thinks mkhitaryan, martial and Rashford will have more productive seasons in front of goal?
Maybe he'll even stick Lindelof up front and play two up top?
Only with these 4 I don't think we'll win the league. We need someone else other than Mkhitaryan for the right wing, be it even a promising youngster from our academy as Mata is really far from ideal option for this position. I'd also like us to replace Rooney with a senior striker capable of fulfilling his duties. It should be a player good enough to add something when brought in from the bench, but not a top tier material so he wouldn't be annoyed by playing second fiddle to Morata. I see Llorente as a good candidate for such role. Unfortunately none of it will happen 
He has said that but here is his full list of transfers made during the summer and winter windows with the dates. As you can see the vast majority of signings haven't been done by this date.
Key:
Red = season 1
Green = season 2
Blue = season 3
Yellow = season 4 (though Mourinho left a few weeks into the season)
Still early days. The season Chelsea won the league under his watch, they had only signed Fabregas at this point.
I'm surprised so many people know so much about Lindelof and rate him a good signing. I must admit I havent really seen him play enough to make a judgement.
Im gonna go hoping Jose knows what he is doing.
To me it looks like we are still way behind the likes of Tottenham, Chelsea and City even with those signings.
We miss Zlatan, our only goal common scorer last season. Now we get Morata. Hes good, but not close to the best. hope im wrong tho.
To me it looks like we are still way behind the likes of Tottenham, Chelsea and City even with those signings.
We miss Zlatan, our only goal common scorer last season. Now we get Morata. Hes good, but not close to the best. hope im wrong tho.
When we were flying in the league and under many of Fergies great teams we had 3 or 4 great strikers in each squad. With Morata, Rooney, Rashford, Martial it still doesn't wash. We need to offload Rooney and bring in another striker. Only then will we have a chance. With the four noted above we are no better off than last season swapping Morata and Ibra
Yes, delighted.Delighted? and why 'at this point'? Sounding a bit desperate there considering the TW isn't even open yet.
Mourinho wanted a CB and so we get Lindelof and im happy enough with that. But Morata and Perisic are the players who we will need to change the dynamics of our attack and provide the goals we lacked so often last season. For the fees being mentioned they will be main players not squad players.
So, is Morata currently at the level of an Aguero, Sanchez, Aubameyang, Diego Costa, Kane etc? Not yet for me, but he will have to be to turn us into serious contenders. Even more so with Perisic. He is 28, and has got to hit the ground running. Yet even if he does is he on a par with the likes of Bernardo Silva, Hazard, De Bruyne, Mane, Coutinho, Dembele etc? Again, i don't see it myself, and if we are gonna spend 50m on him, he has to regularly make the difference like those players do.
I'm not stupidly writing them off, who knows how it will work out? Jose is no fool, so we have to afford him some trust. But as it stands it's hard for me to convince myself these players are better options than the likes of Aubameyang and Dembele would be.
Lindelof, Fabinho, Aubameyang and Dembele. I'd be delighted with that 4 at any point. They are also clearly comparable and arguably even preferable to the main players at our rivals.
Why at this point? Because I endorse getting players in early. We are just over 2 weeks away from pre-season and I believe it's important to integrate new players into the team as early as possible. Desperate? I wouldn't call it desperate to want a quality striker in the squad. Wanting quality signings in as soon as possible is not desperate it's smart.
We don't know if Perisic and Morata would turn out to be better signings than Aubameyang and Dembele. We don't have crystal balls but you seem pretty sure they wouldn't. I'm answering the question of the thread which is about these 4 players. And I'd be happy with them. I believe they'd improve the squad and I'd be even happier to get them in early. Dembele is 20 we have enough young potential. We need a few more proven players at their peak. Aubameyang I'm not sure of, and if he really is considering a move to China that would reinforce the opinion I have of him. But that's not really relative to this thread.
It's not just about the new signings. We really need the likes of Martial, Mkhitaryan, Pogba etc. to be stepping it up a bit next season and Rojo to be back asap and hanging on to De Gea and Romero.
Would you be happy with Morata, Fabinho, Lindelof and Perisic?
I had to answer no.
That is to say I would prefer a better version of Perisic. The other 3 I'd be happy with.
Now if we only bought these 4, I wouldn't be that pissed off about it either. Im just in the group that thinks we could buy better than Perisic. That said I am also in the group that does not know too much about Perisic and I have not seen him play that much. Mostly for Croatia. So I'd have to be in the "in Jose we trust" regarding Mr Ivan Perisic
I had to answer no.
That is to say I would prefer a better version of Perisic. The other 3 I'd be happy with.
Now if we only bought these 4, I wouldn't be that pissed off about it either. Im just in the group that thinks we could buy better than Perisic. That said I am also in the group that does not know too much about Perisic and I have not seen him play that much. Mostly for Croatia. So I'd have to be in the "in Jose we trust" regarding Mr Ivan Perisic
they would improve the squad, but would they improve it enough? If you think so, fair enough. I'm not as convinced that those 2 attacking signings would be sufficient to solve our issues and make us serious contenders. They are simply not on a par with those of our rivals in my view, and for the sums being banded about, surely they should be. So getting players in early for a good preseason would be smart, if possible, but for me they still have to be the right players. I just don't see enough goals from those 2 to justify the fees being touted.
Saying that, i trust Jose's judgement when it comes to signing what he needs, although at this point it seems i would be happier to be proven wrong about those signings, than i am at the prospect of us signing them in the first place. But it's jose's call, and he will be judged accordingly at the end of next season, and i really do hope he gets it right.
I think they improve it plenty. Obviously Sanchez, Ronaldo and Kroos would improve it a hell of a lot more but I can't see those kind of signings happening. Not on par with rivals? I'm not so sure. Who is Chelsea's first choice striker for next season? We don't know, much like us. Costa may leave. Who comes in? Lukaku? I'd take Morata over Lukaku. Arsenal's striker? Giroud? Welbeck? OK Spurs have Kane but they didn't win the league with him did they? Morata is class. He just needs a chance to be first choice. He has scored at Madrid and Juve. A lot of Madrid fans would rather sell Benzema than Morata. I'd love Perisic to sign and prove all the doubters wrong because he is brilliant. But honestly? I think all this is moot because no one seems to have a clue what United's transfer plans are.
Lacks enough goals for me. Would be happy with Morata as our striker, i'm sure with the amount of chances we create he will make up for Ibra's goals. The big issue, which was also the issue last season, the lack of goals from anywhere besides the CF will still be present with this bunch of signings alone. I think it's a risky proposition to hope that the players from last season decide to start chipping in with more goals.
However it's Jose's job and his decision.
However it's Jose's job and his decision.
No having lost Zlatan, Rojo and still have the passenger Rooney how do those signings improve our squad
They don't. Happyish with lindelof and Morata eventhough both still have lots to prove. Matic and Perisic is no upgrade on anyone, this makes no sense.
They would improve the squad, maybe more than I will admit , but I don't believe it will be enough to seriously challenge in the Premier or the Champions League. I suspect there wil be more additions than the four named, in fact all those four players may not make the final cut.
I do like Lindelof, Morata, and Fabinho and trust Jose's judgement on Perisic, I just worry there is not enough goals in the team.
I do like Lindelof, Morata, and Fabinho and trust Jose's judgement on Perisic, I just worry there is not enough goals in the team.
Rumours Inter have met FFP without selling Perisic, rumours they are looking to give him a new contract
PSG responding to tweets about Fabinho
Castles saying Conte will only sell Matic if he gets two top-tier midfielders.
I think we need to stop assuming we are going to get any of the players we are currently linked with. As of right now, Morata is our most likely second signing, after that it is a shitshow of rumours.
PSG responding to tweets about Fabinho
Castles saying Conte will only sell Matic if he gets two top-tier midfielders.
I think we need to stop assuming we are going to get any of the players we are currently linked with. As of right now, Morata is our most likely second signing, after that it is a shitshow of rumours.
Sign someone, any one please.
This thread has gone well. Seems no one of them is going to join.
Maybe start another thread with different list ?
Maybe start another thread with different list ?
Right now we have no clue who the LW and CDM options are. Maybe a better thread would be "Whom would you signing along with Lindelof and Morata"?
Having thought about it more i'd say no. With the exception of Fabinho I feel like there are better players available than Morata and Perisic and I dont understand why we are not after them.
At least we have rumored options in CDM.
We know nothing of our replacements for Perisic, though. I expect journalists to start linking us with thousands of wingers in the coming days.
I'd love to be a fly on the wall in Woody's office just for a day at the moment, just to have a little idea what the hell is going on. It's still very early days, and I'm sure we've got some signings we're working on, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't worried that the early fears of us going into the new season potentially weaker than the last are creeping back into my head.
Time for new thread then?
Looks like Fabinho is off to PSG and Perisic won't be sold, we have already signed Lindelof, so only Morata left.
Looks like Fabinho is off to PSG and Perisic won't be sold, we have already signed Lindelof, so only Morata left.
I am expecting Mou to come out and say that he's happy with the squad at any moment now
Until some other news comes out, i'm really starting to this Castles might be spot on with our Midfield target situation.
He writes an article about PSG-Fabinho, now we get reports about PSG moving quickly. This also explains why Simon Stone kept doubting the Fabinho move, we might be interested and had talks but it's very much in a holding pattern.
Then we find out the complex requirements conte has set to ok selling Matic. That explains how the hack journos know, they found out we are talking with chelsea. Yet Simon stone has stayed very quite because Matic to MUFC requires too many pieces to fall in place, so they don't run an article.
IMO, Castles article can fully explain the oddness to the credible reporting on Matic and Fabinho.
Or maybe i'm too far down the rabbit hole.
He writes an article about PSG-Fabinho, now we get reports about PSG moving quickly. This also explains why Simon Stone kept doubting the Fabinho move, we might be interested and had talks but it's very much in a holding pattern.
Then we find out the complex requirements conte has set to ok selling Matic. That explains how the hack journos know, they found out we are talking with chelsea. Yet Simon stone has stayed very quite because Matic to MUFC requires too many pieces to fall in place, so they don't run an article.
IMO, Castles article can fully explain the oddness to the credible reporting on Matic and Fabinho.
Or maybe i'm too far down the rabbit hole.
Wouldn't it have been more realistic to have Matic on the poll instead of Fabinho?
I'd change the title but it wouldn't be in line with the poll. Besides, it's a much of a muchness when considering the other 3 are most likely to occur anyway (Lindelof done deal etc.)
Would love to log on here and see the thread title changed to 'Are you happy with the signings of Lindelof, Ousmane Dembélé, Verratti and Mbappé?'
The way it's looking I'd be happy with two of them