redmanc
Full Member
We'd be financially fecked if we got relegated and in serious deep shit, more so than we are now, so no i wouldnt want us to get relegated!
Personally I'd buy every branch of DFS, MFI and Ikea in the London area. Just to feck RedRichio off.
Can't say that that would bother me greatly. I live in Birmingham now.
Being a financial advisor gives me some insight on this and I would have to agree with all the point's Fred is making, solely because the asset that is most important to the Glazers is the shares in the club. Selling the shares will be the last thing that they would do as they would do everything they could to maintain control of the asset. The problem in this type of circumstance is thatit would cause a downward spiral, no matter what method they took.
For example, their strategy would begin by continuing to increase ticket prices in order to maintain revenue levels. The Glazers don't want to devalue their shares, so this will be the first step. Once ticket prices get too high, supporters won't be able to afford match tickets. This will lead to the second step, which would be to begin selling the smaller assets (ie - players). This would begin to put negative pressure on the club's valuation. Less talented players would lead to less success, causing a decreased potential for many revenue streams (ie - sponsorships, advertising, even ticket sales in the form of day-trippers). This would lead to a further player sell off as less revenue dollars would lead to less ability to pay player wages. If it goes too far and you face relegation, then those revenue streams would face further declines. These further declines could force the sale of larger assets (ie - Carrington and then OT). These large sales would allow for a short-term cash infusion, but would also lead to long-term expense increases (ie - facility rental costs).
All this could happen if the debt becomes unserviceable due to rising interest rates and/or a revenue slowdown.
The most prudent strategy would now be to overfund the payments towards the debt in order to decrease the principal of the loan. This of course would allow for smaller interest payments, and an upsurge in the ability for the loan to be paid off quicker, which in my mind would be a smart move because it would allow the Glazers to begin to reap the full rewards of owning the club.
If he cant afford the club and the debts then why doesnt he sell it now while the club is rated 1 billion. I mean the club had just won the EPL and generated record profits. Selling the club now would not only save Glazer's reputation but would also handle him enough profit to be happy with. Whats the point in sending one of his biggest investments ever to the bin?
Hypothetical situation only, but I would without doubt. Obviously as a United fan it wouldn't be nice to see us come down from the top tier, but these days I feel so disenchanted with some sections of our support and the cnuts running our club that I think that it wouldn't be too bad a scenario. We'd feck off the gloryhunters only in it for trophies, get back the hardcore and with that kind of strong support the club would rise again in no time. It would also be a bit of a laugh turning up at places like Colchester with thousands of Reds (the faces of the locals could be interesting).
This is the most disgusting and stupid idea I have ever heard for a long time. It is like somebody try to kill himself in order to hurt his enermy. Please ban this guy for life
This is the most disgusting and stupid idea I have ever heard for a long time. It is like somebody try to kill himself in order to hurt his enermy. Please ban this guy for life
Bit harsh, don't you think?
I dont. Even a mod should ban himself if he post such thing in this fan club
Its not a fan club you pratt..
If you want to go join a forum where you arent allowed an opinion then go to www.manutd.com and join their forum...
You must be a fag if you are claiming yourself a united fan. If you are not, go feck yourself out of this thread because this is clearly a United thread. Only a united fan who is also a dickhead and rival fans would want the club to be relegated. Piss off, cnut!
This is the most disgusting and stupid idea I have ever heard for a long time. It is like somebody try to kill himself in order to hurt his enermy. Please ban this guy for life
Christ, how old are you?
You're not from Hull are you?
Yes because United would die if we fell outside the top division. Clearly its worth a discussion due to the 5 pages in thread length and now you've given you're opinion you can feck off.
You must be a fag if you are claiming yourself a united fan. If you are not, go feck yourself out of this thread because this is clearly a United thread. Only a united fan who is also a dickhead and rival fans would want the club to be relegated. Piss off, cnut!
This is the most disgusting and stupid idea I have ever heard for a long time. It is like somebody try to kill himself in order to hurt his enermy. Please ban this guy for life
I dont. Even a mod should ban himself if he post such thing in this fan club
You must be a fag if you are claiming yourself a united fan. If you are not, go feck yourself out of this thread because this is clearly a United thread. Only a united fan who is also a dickhead and rival fans would want the club to be relegated. Piss off, cnut!
Right back at you, crap head
No one has said that they want United to be relegated, it's a hypothetical discussion over whether you would accept it to have the Glazers out and better owners in. If you can't discuss it in a reasonable manner like everyone else don't bother posting in the thread.
I thought the mods were meant to be weeding these kind of spastics out of the football forums?
Talk back to me if you have enough reasoning. Poor try
Nah mate I'm not interested in a spastic internet slagging match, why don't you grow up a bit instead of acting like a cock?
Nice try, again
Do me a favor. Look at how you are contradicting your own comment. FYI: I am not your "mate"
A great contribution to the thread. Ask teacher for some grammar tips tomorrow when you go to school.
Please spare me the embarrassment of getting 'owned'
Haha, right back at you again
Oh no, I should have known you'd come back with a really original and witty reply.
@ R7-R8-R10
I thought WUMs were banned from Red Cafe?
I thought WUMs were banned from Red Cafe?
So did I.
If he cant afford the club and the debts then why doesnt he sell it now while the club is rated 1 billion. I mean the club had just won the EPL and generated record profits. Selling the club now would not only save Glazer's reputation but would also handle him enough profit to be happy with. Whats the point in sending one of his biggest investments ever to the bin?
This is not an option anyone would like to be forced to take
exactly so I would go with this option - reduce the principal thus decreasing the interest payments...Its always better to pay if off in large amounts rather than let it drag on for years
Talk back to me if you have enough reasoning. Very poor try
For your own good, I think making over 3 thousand posts within 4 months is not very healthy for a person's life
Do me a favor. Look at how you are contradicting your own comment. FYI: I am not your "mate"
It is not the first time when a loser come up with this in this forum. See some other threads for reference
This is the most disgusting and stupid idea I have ever heard for a long time. It is like somebody try to kill himself in order to hurt his enermy. Please ban this guy for life
Defeat shouldn't be accepted or welcomed by the club for any reason.
Neither should Glazer...
Who can do that? It would be cutting off the nose to spite the face at any rate.