of course he'll improve, he'll prob never be anything more than a defensive option used infrequently.
Think we'd need to compact the midfield to get the most out of him.
Think we'd need to compact the midfield to get the most out of him.
Would Fellaini improve under a new manager?
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Good to see some positive comments about the lad. At least not everyone left scathing remarks on the player. Too many players have been ridiculed on the caf under the Moyes regime. It is sad to see the fans not backing our team and our players.
It was extremely disheartening, especially, to see the kind of abuse Carrick had to put up with on his Twitter chat with fans.
Yes, some of them have been poor, some are not first team material, some are not united material, but all of these players (except Mata and Fellaini) have been a part of our glory over the past few years. Some like Carrick have been a significant part while others like Cleverly and Young have added bits and parts to our success. If we want them playing better under stressful conditions, we need to be supportive and need to get behind them.
Too many things have been unsavory in the past couple of months and regardless of what people say, the blame lies entirely with Moyes. Some of you might say that some players didn't get behind Moyes, some out rightly misbehaved with him, but every thing, including such behavior had to be brought under check by Moyes. He was out-of-depth in so many facets of his job that it is astonishing he lasted this long. Yes, he works hard, and may be a good man, but he was definitely not a Manchester United manager material by any stretch of imagination. It is sad that he wasn't meant to be. I feel for him but it was the right move to part ways with him.
I really wish Fellaini does succeed at the club, at least some things need to start going right for us now. Too many wrongs have happened recently. The sacking of Moyes, though unfortunate, is I am hoping, the beginning of a better time for all involved with United. Can't wait for the Norwich game!
It was extremely disheartening, especially, to see the kind of abuse Carrick had to put up with on his Twitter chat with fans.
Yes, some of them have been poor, some are not first team material, some are not united material, but all of these players (except Mata and Fellaini) have been a part of our glory over the past few years. Some like Carrick have been a significant part while others like Cleverly and Young have added bits and parts to our success. If we want them playing better under stressful conditions, we need to be supportive and need to get behind them.
Too many things have been unsavory in the past couple of months and regardless of what people say, the blame lies entirely with Moyes. Some of you might say that some players didn't get behind Moyes, some out rightly misbehaved with him, but every thing, including such behavior had to be brought under check by Moyes. He was out-of-depth in so many facets of his job that it is astonishing he lasted this long. Yes, he works hard, and may be a good man, but he was definitely not a Manchester United manager material by any stretch of imagination. It is sad that he wasn't meant to be. I feel for him but it was the right move to part ways with him.
I really wish Fellaini does succeed at the club, at least some things need to start going right for us now. Too many wrongs have happened recently. The sacking of Moyes, though unfortunate, is I am hoping, the beginning of a better time for all involved with United. Can't wait for the Norwich game!
I'm all for giving him a chance to prove himself but I think he will fail to impress under a manager who's goal is to play fluid, attacking, technical football. He's just not fit for that type of play and he leaves you exposed because he lacks pace to recover.
Still can't believe that for a couple more million we didn't get Herrera. He's not a world class player but he would have improved us.
Still can't believe that for a couple more million we didn't get Herrera. He's not a world class player but he would have improved us.
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If big Sam is the New manager I think we could see an improvement
if its anyone else then I dont think we will see him get any worse than he has been.
hopefully he gets an opportunity and proves me wrong but I cant see him being more than a squad player for us... A very very expensive squad player
if its anyone else then I dont think we will see him get any worse than he has been.
hopefully he gets an opportunity and proves me wrong but I cant see him being more than a squad player for us... A very very expensive squad player
The only way he could get worse is if he dropped his shorts after 5 minutes, took a runny shit in the centre circle, rolled around in it and then took his shirt off, ran into the stands and threw it into Bobby Charlton's face.
And even then, it would only be marginally worse than this seasons performances.
And even then, it would only be marginally worse than this seasons performances.
Its all part of his plan to help his future club to get the best man on the cheap! Moyesy the cunning man
Van Gaal likes to play with a pure holding midfielder, having a choice between say Fellaini and Carvahlo in that role wouldn't be bad at all.
Two major assumptions there of course. I'm a Fellaini fan but I expected a bit more from him this year. He looked useful against mediocre opposition and completely clueless against the big teams. Then again, it appears there was a very toxic attitude in the dressing room this season, maybe a more positive environment would help him.
I've still got my fingers crossed.
Two major assumptions there of course. I'm a Fellaini fan but I expected a bit more from him this year. He looked useful against mediocre opposition and completely clueless against the big teams. Then again, it appears there was a very toxic attitude in the dressing room this season, maybe a more positive environment would help him.
I've still got my fingers crossed.
Fellaini isn't worth much at Utd as he lacks ball control but will be worth more at another club who knock high balls around.
Yep. He also likes that midfielder to have very good technique though (Riijkard, Guardiola, Schweinsteiger, Strootman) while they are hardworkers too.
We'll see how he does in the world cup. If Belgium makes a good run and he plays well, he might be able to change a few minds.
Well, clips and gifs don't really paint the whole picture. For example, the following YouTube clip of his shows him making some brilliant passes and having some good ball controlling skills, and we know he isn't extremely gifted eitherFellaini isn't worth much at Utd as he lacks ball control but will be worth more at another club who knock high balls around.
But, a case can be made that he does have a few skills and good physicality. The former can be honed by a great manager and the latter can be made use of against certain opposition as required...again by a manager with a definitive plan or even a plan B.
I'm just trying figure how to salvage something out of the 27 million that we spent on him. I know he isn't worth that much but I'm not entirely convinced that he is worthless either. We should at least make sure that he is used effectively in the next season to up his market value to at least 20-22 mil and then maybe sell him off, or maybe, if he does start performing better we get to keep him and extract a proportionate value out of his services.
Even if we buy a few midfielders, we'll still need younger backups than Carrick and Fletch, so I wouldn't mind seeing him do well. Seems like a decent bloke.
And as they say, Fellaini couldn't trap a bag of cement.
As I have stressed in probably my last 10 posts concerning Fellaini, he should be shipped off to West Ham instantly because Big Sam can improve him and include him in his group of anti-footballing thugs. Moyes should have been sacked alone for buying a player like this for £27.5 million, let alone for a club like Manchester United. He's not a box to box midfielder as he is as mobile as an 80 year old, isn't disciplined or intelligent enough to play a holding role so what the feck is he. Doesn't help anyone with his casual jogging and ridiculous elbowing either.
On a side note, it is easy to see how we have stagnated as a team as a result of our poor transfers. When you seek to replace the likes of Giggs/Scholes/Ronaldo e.t.c with mid table junk like Young and Fellaini , its asking for trouble.
On a side note, it is easy to see how we have stagnated as a team as a result of our poor transfers. When you seek to replace the likes of Giggs/Scholes/Ronaldo e.t.c with mid table junk like Young and Fellaini , its asking for trouble.
C'mon Sam break West Ham's record transfer for another donkey (again).
Best way he can help us is to get loaned out to Big Sam or Stoke so they can play him up front and elbow our rivals. Could be worth a lot if he/they takes point off them.
Moyes will buy him when he lands at Newcastle. For 15 mil
Unlikely to be here next season, depending on the manager, if it's Van Gaal, he will be the first one out the door. But no matter who comes in it will most likely be a loan leading to a permanent shove.
True. I'm not saying he's going to be first choice or anything but I think he would be a pretty good backup in either a defensive or box to box role, and as an option if we're chasing a goal in the final few minutes.
He'll do a job if we have a tactics that can accommodate him according to his strength.
Probably not a 30M job, but a job regardless
Probably not a 30M job, but a job regardless
I think our midfield options are probably so restricted that the new manager will have no choice but to keep hold of him. Lets see how he does in the summer for Belgium.
With the huge upheaval expected in our playing squad it is pretty likely that he will be with us next season, it would be unnecessary/brash to completely write him off at this stage.
Fletch, Cleverley, Carrick and 2 new CM's should see the way clear for him to head off to pastures new.
Fellaini isn't worth much at Utd as he lacks ball control but will be worth more at another club who knock high balls around.
That GIF is hilarious and pretty much sums up his time at United so far.
From here i see it going one of two ways, the new manager comes in gets him some confidence back and he becomes a useful squad player, an expensive squad player though. His best role would probably be back up DM.
Or the new manager comes in scratches his head for 12-18 months wondering what to actually do with him, then eventually sells him to where ever Moyes ends up, im sure Moyes would relish the chance to build another Hoofball team around Fellaini.
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Hopefully we can sell him, maybe for half what we paid.
Fellaini isn't worth much at Utd as he lacks ball control but will be worth more at another club who knock high balls around.
If LVG ever gets the job, he'll never be allowed to pull of a farce like that.. This was embarassing for every fan watching it on the day..
I believe he will improve under a different manager, at Everton DM moved him upfield to avoid the cheap fouls he was giving away and played to his aerial strength..instead of transforming him into a more disciplined player and polish his ball playing ability. The reason he looked limited on the ball.
It will take him a while to get back to playing with the ball but he will come good coz he has the ability to..
I'm curious, how's the squad taking Fellaini?
Do they hate him as well? Do they like him? Do they wanna play with him? Would he get prejudice because of MOyes?
Do they hate him as well? Do they like him? Do they wanna play with him? Would he get prejudice because of MOyes?
Don't know where people are getting the idea that Fellaini should be a defensive midfielder, Has anyone seen Fellaini win the ball without fouling the opposition player. Fellaini could be useful in a 3 man midfield where his job would be to get into the opposition box and create havoc or as a battering ram if we ever decide to play that way.
Yes he can and will improve, as will the whole team. Whether he will suit the new manager's setup is a completely different question.
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No of course not, Moyes made our other players play like complete shit and they'll all improve under another manager but Fellaini won't. Just no. Moyes making players shit applies only to everybody-bar-Fellaini.
In order to prove my point, I'll post a gif of him losing control over a ball when being pressed while playing against the best team in the world.
Then I'll throw in some cliches about him being just elbows and technically inept and then put those arguments back on the shelf between 'Rafael can't defend' and 'Hernandez doesn't offer anything outside of the box'.
In order to prove my point, I'll post a gif of him losing control over a ball when being pressed while playing against the best team in the world.
Then I'll throw in some cliches about him being just elbows and technically inept and then put those arguments back on the shelf between 'Rafael can't defend' and 'Hernandez doesn't offer anything outside of the box'.
He's a good player and he will show that next season. He has had a few good games this year which shows he's clearly good enough, against West ham, palace and west brom I thought he was very good indeed and looked like a good box to box player. He even had a nice cameo in the CL when he came on and held the ball up well.
He's going to be a good player for us, I think some of the criticism has been over the top , as others have said already the whole team has played badly this year so let's see what he can bring next year.
He's going to be a good player for us, I think some of the criticism has been over the top , as others have said already the whole team has played badly this year so let's see what he can bring next year.
I doubt they rate him at all. You could see the excitement at Mata's signing seemed genuine. No one has really praised Fellaini. Will be interesting to see if he even gets game time under Giggs. Probably for lack of bodies in midfield and Fletcher's sickness he will
I kinda pity him, it's not even his fault.
It's not his fault Moyes overpaid for him, it's not his fault if he doesn't produce like a 30M player, it's not his fault he worked with the black sheep before, it's seriously not a fault of his, and I hope the team give him a proper chance and a clean slate.
Oh boy, you really hate Moyes, don't you? Black sheep! What next?
No, we must get rid, just like Rodgers got rid of 35M man Carroll.
Yes he will. Half our squad turned to shit with Moyes reducing ball work in training. Fellaini has had 5 years of that.
I would like to give it another season to see if he can fit in with a team which is functioning properly. If he still is out of his depth, then we can get rid.
Maybe. Everyone else's performance levels should increase, so why not his?
Since he is already here there is no harm in giving him a chance to see if he can rise to the challenge . With Giggs and Anderson on their way out I don't think we will have too many cms even if we keep him . A midfield roster of ;
New signing
New signing
Carrick
Cleverley
Fletcher
Fellaini, should give us enough strength in depth .