No way, he looks to me he just cant play in a more defensive role. doesn't have the legs tracking back, his positioning is not that great, isnt a mobile player etc. He even struggles to win headers now... I'd prefer for him to go but i reckon the new manager will keep him around and just bench him until he's just not worth keeping around anymore.
Would Fellaini improve under a new manager?
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He doesn't fit in at a top club looking to play attacking football.
He's a very good nuisance for the middle tier clubs when playing good sides.
He's a very good nuisance for the middle tier clubs when playing good sides.
Isn't he a starter for this Beligum side everyone faffs on about? We should wait to see him in a squad where everyone doesn't look awful before we anoint him with the Ashley Young treatment hysteria.
If he is he shouldn't be.
I suspect he will end up a passenger this next season then move on when it's obvious to him he's not good enough.
I think so - I mean, he can't get any worse... and a better manager/coach could well be able to pull something out of him. Hell, even making him into the tough bastard he was at Everton, who won every duel and every aerial ball would be a start...
Carrying passengers in the squad has been an issue for us these last few seasons and he would appear to be another. I'm sure doing a proper clearout will test the metal of the new boss.
Is Fellaini United material? No. So let's get rid. Let's not go forward with a collection of mediocre players with their draining wage bills.
There's been games this season where he's actually stood out as our worst player on the field - which is quite some achievement!
Is Fellaini United material? No. So let's get rid. Let's not go forward with a collection of mediocre players with their draining wage bills.
There's been games this season where he's actually stood out as our worst player on the field - which is quite some achievement!
He isnt a good player, the next manager will get rid of him in the summer.
Fellani has never been anything more than a player who made it because of his height and willingness to put himself about.
When our new manager comes in and wants to focus on technique and keeping the ball on the ground Fellani's weaknesses will be exposed and he'll be shipped out to Stoke or West Ham where he'll fit in perfectly.
When our new manager comes in and wants to focus on technique and keeping the ball on the ground Fellani's weaknesses will be exposed and he'll be shipped out to Stoke or West Ham where he'll fit in perfectly.
Arsenal might take him off our hands.
I'm not a fan, and the fact that he was one of the 2 targets immediately identified by Moyes last summer was nearly enough for me to lose all faith in him.
However, playing at his best he's a better midfield player than he shown this season. He has a decent short passing game, can use his physicality to his advantage and tackle. Under a coach who's focus is on improving team cohesion and technical skills, and instill some confidence in him, he can be useful for us.
We don't really gain anything from selling him this summer as opposed to next. We might as well give him a fair crack of the whip.
However, playing at his best he's a better midfield player than he shown this season. He has a decent short passing game, can use his physicality to his advantage and tackle. Under a coach who's focus is on improving team cohesion and technical skills, and instill some confidence in him, he can be useful for us.
We don't really gain anything from selling him this summer as opposed to next. We might as well give him a fair crack of the whip.
He's got the highest tackle ratio from our midfield choices. He's only below Carrick in interceptions. He's taken the most shots from our central midfielders. He however has the lowest pass success of them all (still on 88%!) and is the 2nd lowest pass per game.
So he's got the tools to be a decent central midfielder imo. The issue is that he's a bit slow and our team has been mess for most of the season. So I'd be willing to see how he performs with a different boss tbh. He should probably improve on his aerial battles, but at least he's going in for them, he's attempted 89 winning 48 compared to Carricks 29 and 18 successful. The same Carrick who's got double the amount of minutes as Fellaini.
I don't think he's as bad as people make him out to be.
Please note I am now going to throw up in the toilet for defending Fellaini.
Seems everyone wants on here wants all our midfielders gone.
Giggs retired, Anderson, Cleverley, Fellaini sold. I've also heard a lot say Fletcher's no longer any use to us and Carrick is considered too old and past it now.
Moyes has been slammed for this idea we need a complete overhaul, but it seems many on here are all too happy to suggest it themselves. You can't go from our current position to perfect first team and squad in one summer transfer window. We need to be prudent and realistic.
Giggs retired, Anderson, Cleverley, Fellaini sold. I've also heard a lot say Fletcher's no longer any use to us and Carrick is considered too old and past it now.
Moyes has been slammed for this idea we need a complete overhaul, but it seems many on here are all too happy to suggest it themselves. You can't go from our current position to perfect first team and squad in one summer transfer window. We need to be prudent and realistic.
I agree with this. Well put sir.
Sure you can...Brendan Rodgers is an expert at it
He said polish a turd, not being a turd.
No IMO. One of the first casualties of Van Gaal.
If the new manager just unleashes him and lets him get forward more often, he could terrories defences. At the minute, he is clumsy at tackling. Gives away too many fouls but as a more AM, he could certainly do some damage.
I'd hope so. In flashes, he shows sublime technique. Quite often his ball control is magnetic, and the way he turns his marker with the ball is excellent. He scored some excellent goals for Everton in his time. Then other times he just bumbles around, booting the ball into touch and shoving people in the face.
I think there is plenty of talent under that ridiculous head of hair, but it's possibly a character issue. Maybe he lacks a football brain. Maybe he's just a bit of an arse. Maybe a sterner figure like Van Gaal could leather the feck out of him and either shape him up, or ship him out.
I think there is plenty of talent under that ridiculous head of hair, but it's possibly a character issue. Maybe he lacks a football brain. Maybe he's just a bit of an arse. Maybe a sterner figure like Van Gaal could leather the feck out of him and either shape him up, or ship him out.
How? Elbow them to death? He can't run, turns like a bus with no wheels, lacks a first touch and is actually pretty ordinary in the air for the size of him. The day he plays AM for Manchester United we are fecked.
I thought he was wrong for us before he even signed. Cos he was most effective at Everton when he went up front and we just don't play that way (would be terrible if we did) plus we already have 3 no.10s. As a midfielder though he was never anything special, or not consistently good enough for a top club. This position is a major weakness that opposition teams will always exploit and did. Don't know if someone like Van Gaal would want him but then if he was sold and we got a suitable midfield replacement all the better. Or loan him out so he can batter our rivals.
People keep saying how great he is in Belgium's midfield, but what have they ever done? Yes, they supposedly have a 'golden generation', but then so did England 10 years ago. They've qualified for the World Cup but so have Switzerland, Greece and Bosnia. We should be looking for a lot better than him for such a vital position.
I think he will be sold by any new United manager, who tries to play attacking, posession-based football. He will be one of the 3,4 players, who van Gaal wants to get rid of imo.
I do not believe he has the mentality to improve. He will remain a constant towards having mix performances against the lesser opposition, while against teams that knows how to play incisive football, he will look out of his depth. He would still be a productive utility player to have because he gives us a different dimension to our gameplan.
Moyes can buy him for his new club and use him as a striker like he did at Everton.
He is too slow and clumsy to be a United midfielder.
He is too slow and clumsy to be a United midfielder.
I said this a few days ago
still holds true, I think. He's a good player, I reckon he'll still do well for us, in time.
Moyes bought him, then immediately undermined him. He told Fellaini to concentrate on swiftly getting the ball to 'the good players'...which surely affected his confidence & made him play within himself. He hasn't yet coped with opposing midfielders & attackers: as it stands, he often appears like a dad who's woken to find his kids running wild but can't get hold of them to stop the chaos. And he plays like he has slippers on.
The above was #712 in the series "Steve's Shit Analogies"
The above was #712 in the series "Steve's Shit Analogies"
He needs a team like West Ham where they play to suit his strengths. If Carroll could get away with bulldozing De Gea over like he did last season, Fellaini and his sharp elbows will go down an absolute treat there.
Fellaini who plays for Belguim is a completely different player then the one who plays for us, there is scope for improvement we just need to find it.
Whatever this 'scope for improvement' is, it's still not good enough for us. This was Moyes' signing, who he managed for years before, and he couldn't get something out of him. Fellaini just doesn't belong in our team, especially as a DM. He's not quick or commanding and doesn't do the job well enough. Plus Belgium aren't Spain or Brazil, are they?
His best form was when he was playing behind the striker at Everton, collecting hoofed balls and passing it to the striker (flailing his arms around in the process). We have no need for him in that position, and he's not much better anywhere else anyway.
He was a mistake, and unless the new manager can think of a new role for him to play then he's out. I think the mentality isn't there either, most of the time he looks like he can't be arsed.
He was a mistake, and unless the new manager can think of a new role for him to play then he's out. I think the mentality isn't there either, most of the time he looks like he can't be arsed.
No more than under Moyes. He should be better next season and that would have been the case anyway.
If he isnt improving you'd fear for his career, not just his time at United.
If he isnt improving you'd fear for his career, not just his time at United.
Agreed. I still think he will be good player, even as CM/DM.
But what do I know. I'd say the same thing with Young, Cleverley, and Welbeck too.
I'm sure he'd improve, as will the whole team, but he's still just not that good. More suited to stoke city and west ham than Manchester United, and that's the truth of it. The sooner we cut our losses with him the better.
Fellaini was the one player Moyes could apparently trust, the one player he knew everything about, his signing, and yet he's been our worst player of the season. If Moyes couldn't get the best out of him here, I'm unsure any other manager will. He's simply not suited to the club, a disastrous mix.
Think you overlook Anderlecht there.
Needs to be played as the deepest midfielder with a dynamic player next to him, in my opinion. That's how Martinez used him at Everton.
A couple of Fellaini's best performances have come when partnered next to Giggs (how ironic) against Everton and Real Sociedad, despite the sending off.
A couple of Fellaini's best performances have come when partnered next to Giggs (how ironic) against Everton and Real Sociedad, despite the sending off.
Henderson is three years younger than Fellaini. I think that's important when discussing his improvement under Rodgers. And he was always far better on the ball than Fellaini so the foundations were there. Fellaini would have to change his entire game at the age of 27 (well he'll be 27 in November).
Oh yea, he played for their youth team as well...