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Wot, no transfers?
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3 weeks.
By our first game against Leicester, 3 weeks Friday
How can you possibly know what is going on behind the scenes though?
If the transfer windows closes and we still haven't made any additional signings, then sure, you can suggest that there is perhaps a lack of ambition at the club.
However, as of now we do not know. Just because the media are not linking us with certain players, doesn't mean we're not after them.
I've said this a few times, but I'm 99.99% sure we'll be signing another player or two before the window closes, we just need to be a bit patient.
I really hope someone within the club reads this thread!
I mean, it's shocking these weaknesses haven't been adressed, if they aren't aware of it themselves, this thread would definitely help
I mean, it's shocking these weaknesses haven't been adressed, if they aren't aware of it themselves, this thread would definitely help
I refuse to give the club a penny, have done since that farcical Summer 2009 when they sold ronaldo, let tevez go, and signed Owen, Valencia, diouff and obertan. If they want to take fans money but not showing the ambition of giving back, yet pimp themselves out has the richest club in the world, they don’t deserve my money. This board is happy to allow our local rivals to blitz us, reap the awards of the profits and allow them to take the glory’s of sky blues title parades, it is has unforgivable has you can get. I will support the team from a distance, but I won’t spend any money. It may not make a difference to them, but it’s just out of principle.
Would be nice if they could get a pre season with us, don't you think?
If we sign them at the end of the window, they won't play for a couple weeks, maybe even a month.
My main concern is about keeping the likes of Pogba if we are not constantly moving forward. I think with others seemingly moving forward and seeming more ‘in vogue’ than us at the moment, we may survive a Pogba storm this summer, but not the next.
That's true I guess, but at least we'll have the players on our books for the new season.
Just saying it's not all doom and gloom.
People are of course entitled to their own opinion, but the pessimism on here lately is overwhelming.
Jose will be gone this time next year, so as long as keep hold of Pogba this summer we should be fine.
22 days
I just see us crying out desperately for quality and none seems to be forthcoming. Okay, we may get another transfer over the line but that's not really the issue. The issue is having too many hangers on and players who need to be moved on, and real quality bought in their place. City's squad is massive, yes, but it is packed with serious talent and makes them strong on all fronts. Currently, if we were to get a couple of injuries at the same time to first team players, there is not the appropriate quality on the bench or in the squad to come in and help push on. I tried not to think to much about United during the World Cup but there is 3 weeks until the start of the season, and the situation is very worrying.
Our recent transfer business has been rather quiet (Lukaku for example) so I wouldn't panic just now.
Mourinho knows these players better than we do, and I'm pretty sure he's not satisfied with our present squad.
It feels a little like summer of 2006 though, where Chelsea (after winning 2 titles in a row) added Shevchenko, Ballack and Ashley Cole, whereas we signed only Carrick, who was viewed at the time as a solid, but overpriced signing. The real key to success, as it turned out, was to get the best out of Rooney and Ronaldo and now, in order to success, we have to do the same. Can we get more from Lukaku? Yes. Pogba? Sanchez? Yes. Martial, Rashford? Lindelof, Bailly? There's plenty of room for improvement among most of our squad, signing new players won't solve our problems. For example, signing new RW won't solve our problems with getting the best out of Sanchez, Martial or Pogba etc. That's lots of work which needs to be done during pre-season by our coaching staff.
Mourinho knows these players better than we do, and I'm pretty sure he's not satisfied with our present squad.
It feels a little like summer of 2006 though, where Chelsea (after winning 2 titles in a row) added Shevchenko, Ballack and Ashley Cole, whereas we signed only Carrick, who was viewed at the time as a solid, but overpriced signing. The real key to success, as it turned out, was to get the best out of Rooney and Ronaldo and now, in order to success, we have to do the same. Can we get more from Lukaku? Yes. Pogba? Sanchez? Yes. Martial, Rashford? Lindelof, Bailly? There's plenty of room for improvement among most of our squad, signing new players won't solve our problems. For example, signing new RW won't solve our problems with getting the best out of Sanchez, Martial or Pogba etc. That's lots of work which needs to be done during pre-season by our coaching staff.
Please tell us why.
Posts like this are doing my head in.
Closes August 9th, first game of the season is August 11th if I'm not mistaken. No way a player bought two days ago is starting the first game of the season.
We seem to keep adding potential deadwood instead of proven quality - players who are risks at best and second tier at worst. Look at our CB signings for example - Jones, Smalling, Blind (sort of), Rojo, Bailly, Lindelof. We haven’t signed a nailed on “sure thing” quality CB since Rio Ferdinand and he’s now a seasoned pundit!!
We absolutely can get more out of certain players, agreed. My worry is the lack of real quality throughout the squad though, there isn't enough there to help the better players improve or pay consistently to their best. I'm not looking for superstar signings, I'm looking for us to get rid of those who are not up to the grade and make some good quality signings that benefit the squad as a whole. That would also help players like Pogba, Lukaku, Sanchez and more improve too.
I'm sorry, but Jose projects so little confidence to me, and such a dower demeanor, I can't see him sticking it out much longer. I'd love to be proved wrong, because a lot will need to change and that can only be a good thing.
My point exactly, it's more 'maybe' signings than actual real quality. It's frustrating.
Mourinho usually wants the players to get to know the system and their teammates.
And, worryingly, Fred *may* turn out to be another one. I mean, he may be brilliant but he’s been playing in a second rate league and hasn’t really forced his way into a relatively poor Brazil side either.
My faith in Fred being good is, and I hate saying it, the fact Pep wanted him.
Do you know any other team that did?
Well that’s not something you know, talk less the dramatic ‘not able to play for a month’. On what basis?
Main theme among 5,6 our players this summer:
That’s not a Mourinho thing, that’s a football and common sense thing. Nevertheless, there is literally an almost countless number of players for various football teams who have signed and gone straight into the lineup for the next game.
I really hope you are right. Honestly We won’t get top 4 if we don’t improve positions where we so obviously need to.
We’ve got 3 weeks and 2 days to sign a quality right sided forward, a quality centre back and a quality left back whilst also trying to sell the deadwood so I won’t lie I’m far from optimistic.
The likes of Lukaku, Sanchez, Pogba, Bailly, Lindelof and Martial should ALL be much better and consistent than last season BUT knowing we could easily (and probably) start with a back four of Valencia, Smalling, Jones and Young, a static and slow midfield and lack of pace or penetration from our attack added to Jose’s tactics just doesn’t inspire me.
I want to be optimistic and positive but Dalot, Fred and Grant signing when we finished so far off City last season and Liverpool are definitely going to be stronger throughout whilst we seem to be doing nothing bar chasing pipe dreams isn’t inspiring confidence in me.
The likes of Lukaku, Sanchez, Pogba, Bailly, Lindelof and Martial should ALL be much better and consistent than last season BUT knowing we could easily (and probably) start with a back four of Valencia, Smalling, Jones and Young, a static and slow midfield and lack of pace or penetration from our attack added to Jose’s tactics just doesn’t inspire me.
I want to be optimistic and positive but Dalot, Fred and Grant signing when we finished so far off City last season and Liverpool are definitely going to be stronger throughout whilst we seem to be doing nothing bar chasing pipe dreams isn’t inspiring confidence in me.
Not even any rumours we're after anyone right now.
Surely we can't be done for the Summer?
Going into the new season with this squad? Oh dear.
Surely we can't be done for the Summer?
Going into the new season with this squad? Oh dear.
The only saving grace at the moment is the rest of the top 6 have hardly strengthened, unless of course Liverpool get Alisson.
I wouldn't regard Keita and Fabinho as much of an improvement on Can, other than the fact they have strength in numbers.
Chelsea have signed Jorginho, City have signed Mahrez, Spurs no one and Arsenal have signed a load of players that wouldn't make our first 11.
Liverpool are the only side showing ambition it seems. Could all change over the next 3 weeks though.
I wouldn't regard Keita and Fabinho as much of an improvement on Can, other than the fact they have strength in numbers.
Chelsea have signed Jorginho, City have signed Mahrez, Spurs no one and Arsenal have signed a load of players that wouldn't make our first 11.
Liverpool are the only side showing ambition it seems. Could all change over the next 3 weeks though.
Think the problem is we are totally bereft of players in certain areas. We currently don't have any wing backs who are good enough to start for us.
Valencia and young are square pegs pushed into round holes and have somehow become regular fixtures there. Look at city. Pep just looked at kolarov, Sagna, clichy and zabaleta and said 'no not good enough'. They were gone in a window, replaced by Mendy, walker and Danilo.
Young was appaling against Croatia which showed his level when he actually plays against anyone half decent. If you're a right winger with a right foot he must be a dream to play against because you just stay to the touch line and he can't tackle you because he's right footed.
Smalling and jones are good enough to be squad players but seem to start a worrying amount of games for us. Should only be starting in case of injury and suspension or for league cup games against Northampton etc.
A big problem lies with the fact most of LVG's signings weren't good enough - bastian, schneiderlin, blind, depay, Darmian, di Maria, falcao, Valdes, shaw, rojo and Herrera make up a lot of the deadwood or are already gone. Add to that the fact Moyes signed just Fellaini and Mata that is why our squad is so poor. In that time we lost players like Ferdinand, evra, vidic, Carrick, and others were wrongly sold like Hernandez(what a back up/bench striker).
I don't think it has helped that Woodward hasn't sat and done his sums every summer and said 'the maximum we can spend this summer is 'x' go spend it.
At current I think we should show a few the door, sign a starting rb, lb, and CB and a RW. That would give us a good chance to compete.
De Gea
RB Bailly CB LB
Fred Matic Pogba
RW Lukaku Sanchez
Bench
Romero
Dalot
Lindelof
Herrera
Martial
Lingard
Rashford
Doesn't look half bad and it's just 4 players. Also leaves a lot of the crap like Mata and Fellaini, Jones and Smalling nowhere near the team til we have a cup game etc. Valencia and Young can be retired pretty much.
We can easily sign 4 players and I think we will sign more. Just need to be patient. On the flip side, if the transfer window shuts on the 9th as things are, I will begin to question the boards approach to funding the team
Valencia and young are square pegs pushed into round holes and have somehow become regular fixtures there. Look at city. Pep just looked at kolarov, Sagna, clichy and zabaleta and said 'no not good enough'. They were gone in a window, replaced by Mendy, walker and Danilo.
Young was appaling against Croatia which showed his level when he actually plays against anyone half decent. If you're a right winger with a right foot he must be a dream to play against because you just stay to the touch line and he can't tackle you because he's right footed.
Smalling and jones are good enough to be squad players but seem to start a worrying amount of games for us. Should only be starting in case of injury and suspension or for league cup games against Northampton etc.
A big problem lies with the fact most of LVG's signings weren't good enough - bastian, schneiderlin, blind, depay, Darmian, di Maria, falcao, Valdes, shaw, rojo and Herrera make up a lot of the deadwood or are already gone. Add to that the fact Moyes signed just Fellaini and Mata that is why our squad is so poor. In that time we lost players like Ferdinand, evra, vidic, Carrick, and others were wrongly sold like Hernandez(what a back up/bench striker).
I don't think it has helped that Woodward hasn't sat and done his sums every summer and said 'the maximum we can spend this summer is 'x' go spend it.
At current I think we should show a few the door, sign a starting rb, lb, and CB and a RW. That would give us a good chance to compete.
De Gea
RB Bailly CB LB
Fred Matic Pogba
RW Lukaku Sanchez
Bench
Romero
Dalot
Lindelof
Herrera
Martial
Lingard
Rashford
Doesn't look half bad and it's just 4 players. Also leaves a lot of the crap like Mata and Fellaini, Jones and Smalling nowhere near the team til we have a cup game etc. Valencia and Young can be retired pretty much.
We can easily sign 4 players and I think we will sign more. Just need to be patient. On the flip side, if the transfer window shuts on the 9th as things are, I will begin to question the boards approach to funding the team
Calm before the storm...
Nothing on the media and then suddenly boom Bonucci, boom Sandro, boom Bale
Boom Gaitan
Nothing on the media and then suddenly boom Bonucci, boom Sandro, boom Bale
Boom Gaitan
Seen us linked to Cahill and Arnautovic today in papers. I think/hope they are clutching at straws.
Interestingly see apparently Malcom is going to Everton for 30m. He's a RW isn't he? Aren't we interested in him?
Interestingly see apparently Malcom is going to Everton for 30m. He's a RW isn't he? Aren't we interested in him?
The last reports of any detail suggested that a CB and a backup striker would be our targets. Don't think we're after a winger and none are being linked.
Starting to get worried, especially with us linked with players like Cahill. I seriously hope we don't become desperate and sign some shit. Not buying is a concern but what is more concerning is not selling deadwoods. Till now only blind has been sold. Darmian, jones, Rojo should also have been sold but can't see that happening. Hope we pick up or else it will be a long season.
Very good post. I think there is a lot to be said for trying to get more from what we have.
I agree, I'd be embarrassed and do think we need to trim the fat however don't see who's going to buy them and it's not going to be a whacking transfer fee if we do. Surprised to see us get 10m for any of those players
Mahrez would have been a good signing. Fekir would have been a good one, Fabinho too. I think we are done with the business with 4 transfers already done and dusted
I don't mind if we use what we have cause there is talent there to be used, so the pressure is now on Mourinho to adapt and utilize this squad.
We didn’t have anywhere near as much deadwood then as we do now. We also have most of our attacking players underperforming for us on a regular basis.
As many have said, it’s the fact that not only are the incomings very quiet but the deadwood are still clinging on bar Blind. The fact Fellaini has got a new contract is ridiculous but at least he has his uses albeit in more of a Stoke City sense rather than Manchester United. The fact players like Darmian are on tour with us though is actually disgraceful - and Smalling, Jones and Valencia just being accepted for another season despite their obvious mediocrity. Not the Summer clearout we were hoping for.
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