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Dolf said:
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I simply think woody and others who manage our transfers, and our scouting are really bad in their job

Buy for much, sell for cheap, always late on talent and big deals who would have been decisive for this club (aguero, varane, hazard, kroos in the past, and de ligt is a name i can do now)

Really sad things our inability in the market, we were at the top in Europe, now we have difficult to qualify for champions league or beat a shite team like Sevilla in the 1/8...

:-(
 
Oneunited26 said:
Allot of the smaller clubs did vote for it, but we voted for it, Jose apparently voted it to be open has soon as possible and its showing, what is our club doing this year? raking in the profits, yet we have spent money of a budget that is outdated by 12 years. We the richest club in the world, and our reaction getting blitzed by city and losing the FA cup final is 63 million spent, that is how we spent on di maria. They will only spend if we out of the top 4
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While it’s true loads of clubs voted for it, I can’t comprehend how no one had the foresight to think, ‘Well it’s a World Cup year, so you know, it might be a little bit optimistic in closing the window early this year, let’s do it from next year’. I thought it was mental at the time and it’s worked out the way I thought it would, with nearly every club scrambling around to do something in the next few weeks.

On us, I honestly don’t know what to think about where we are heading. While we aren’t spending enough to get real quality in, we have so many players that we would be better served in moving on too. As I said, just seems we are sleepwalking into a new season.
 
I'm not jumping to panic stations at this point in the window, but my sole concern is as follows.

There are a lot of posts on here with people saying that we have a quality line-up with Fred, Martial staying, DDG staying, etc.

The only thing that pops into my mind is what if we have two injuries? If I recall, Pogba was out for a while last season with a recurring thigh issue? What if he and Lukaku are out for a few weeks at the same time. Then how does our squad look?

The issue is that we may (arguably) have sufficient quality in the Starting XI, but we have no quality in our depth. And that's the difference between us and a club like RM, where they have Kovacic cooling his heels for half a season. Now if RM had a few injuries, I'm sure he would feature, but that's what we need.

I'm not saying we go full Galactico and sign 3 players per position for 50m quid each, but we really do need people who can make a difference off the bench, or at least give the current XI a reason to play well, due to a potential drop.

I'd love us to sign a few more quality starters, but it's the depth I'm worried about. The ability to have the players to try different tactics during the season (not only our beloved Plan B).
 
An Irish Red said:
We already had a worse attack than City and Liverpool and they've added Mahrez and Shaqiri to what they had.

City have six attacking midfielders better than Lingard (Silva, De Bruyne, Sane, Sterling, Mahrez, B.Silva) and some on here are happy with him being first choice for us. It's madness.
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Agreed.
 
We might, we might not sign Alex Sandro. Other than that there is no real links with anyone else and let’s be honest, even if we only sign Sandro (who’ll sort out our left back problem) it won’t be anywhere near enough to make us challengers.
 
Jezpeza said:
Obviously. I'm more referencing us splashing cash than assembling a dream team. You're here bemoaning lack of transfers (spending) then saying the glazers won't spend money. What's your point?
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Im pissed off we seem to buy noone every summer that will move us to the next level. I keep hearing were in transition. We have been in transition for the last 5 years, how much longer? How come City Chelsea Bayern Madrid and Barca never seem to have more than a season in transition when they change manager?
 
Honestly speaking would prefer to see some out's at this poing. Squad is bloated with mediocre players. Lindelof, Jones, Rojo, Shaw can all be shown the door. We urgently need a new LB and RW
 
Oneunited26 said:
Allot of the smaller clubs did vote for it, but we voted for it, Jose apparently voted it to be open has soon as possible and its showing, what is our club doing this year? raking in the profits, yet we have spent money of a budget that is outdated by 12 years. We the richest club in the world, and our reaction getting blitzed by city and losing the FA cup final is 63 million spent, that is how we spent on di maria. They will only spend if we out of the top 4



We are already 2 years behind schedule on the building process, by now I would have expected jones, smalling, valencia and young to have been replaced at the back, still not, the worst part how poor our transfer summer has been and the reaction losing in the FA cup final, and the gap between us and city is there for us to see. We do need 5 players atleast to get us up to speed, some of our rivals are blitzing us
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I agree, too many are focusing on our best XI on paper, which is competitive but whereas City and Liverpool are building strength in depth and stockpiling quality, we are threadbare and our squad option have held us back for years.

It makes me laugh when the likes of Pogba are blamed for us underperforming when in reality 40% of our squad is dross. We have a few big players but the overall squad development is terrible. We need to increase the baseline of our squad and there's no evidence of this.
 
Mister_Stubbs said:
We might, we might not sign Alex Sandro. Other than that there is no real links with anyone else and let’s be honest, even if we only sign Sandro (who’ll sort out our left back problem) it won’t be anywhere near enough to make us challengers.
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Who is available that would definitely make us challengers?

People on here were saying Summer 15 was the 'best transfer window ever', the season that followed was arguably the worst in recent memory.
 
Vault Dweller said:
While it’s true loads of clubs voted for it, I can’t comprehend how no one had the foresight to think, ‘Well it’s a World Cup year, so you know, it might be a little bit optimistic in closing the window early this year, let’s do it from next year’. I thought it was mental at the time and it’s worked out the way I thought it would, with nearly every club scrambling around to do something in the next few weeks.

On us, I honestly don’t know what to think about where we are heading. While we aren’t spending enough to get real quality in, we have so many players that we would be better served in moving on too. As I said, just seems we are sleepwalking into a new season.
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Football people are a bit thick, in general.
 
I’m a taxi driver, and have just dropped off a man in a suit called Karol at Carrington. He came from Manchester Airport. He was meeting Matt Judge. Is there any agents call Karol?
 
fergies coat said:
I’m a taxi driver, and have just dropped off a man in a suit called Karol at Carrington. He came from Manchester Airport. He was meeting Matt Judge. Is there any agents call Karol?
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If that did actually happen, Matt Judge is United's head of corporate developement, not likely to be an agent more likely to be a noodle sponsor.
 
Sambob said:
If that did actually happen, Matt Judge is United's head of corporate developement, not likely to be an agent more likely to be a noodle sponsor.
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Why would I lie about it? I would of asked him myself but he was on his phone all the way there. He only came off it when we got to the security barrier. He said he was there to see Matt Judge, Said he was called Karol. I missed his second name it was something like soms or samz.
 
MUFC OK said:
I agree, too many are focusing on our best XI on paper, which is competitive but whereas City and Liverpool are building strength in depth and stockpiling quality, we are threadbare and our squad option have held us back for years.

It makes me laugh when the likes of Pogba are blamed for us underperforming when in reality 40% of our squad is dross. We have a few big players but the overall squad development is terrible. We need to increase the baseline of our squad and there's no evidence of this.
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Look who pogba is playing with? He is going to have heavy legs of matic and fellaini around him, and god knows if Fred needs a settling in periods, so basically we going into the new season with the same team. Our backline is beyond repair it needs an overhaul, the fact jones, smalling, Valencia and young could be our backfour is all you need to know about the direction we are at. We have inept Woodward still chasing unicorns in Bale a player we don’t need, when we need holes filling. We like a club who thinks putting a plaster over a gunshot wound will get us by. And this oh Jose has spent money, we the richest club in the world the club brags about, yet we still using mata, fellaini, Jones, smalling, Valencia, young and lingard for a ton of games, we will not win a title with that kind of playing staff. Because they not just squad players, they basically a huge part of the starting 11, and car crash Phil Jones will cost us again

Vault Dweller said:
While it’s true loads of clubs voted for it, I can’t comprehend how no one had the foresight to think, ‘Well it’s a World Cup year, so you know, it might be a little bit optimistic in closing the window early this year, let’s do it from next year’. I thought it was mental at the time and it’s worked out the way I thought it would, with nearly every club scrambling around to do something in the next few weeks.

On us, I honestly don’t know what to think about where we are heading. While we aren’t spending enough to get real quality in, we have so many players that we would be better served in moving on too. As I said, just seems we are sleepwalking into a new season.
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The identity of this clubs ownership is making profits, and will only spend the money if needs be, 63 million spent and they even announced that GK signing has an actual signing lol. Now the club are in the top 4 the urge is not there, none of them know a thing about squads and what not, look at summer 2009, we sell the worlds best player and give Michael Owen the no 7 shirt, what other gigantic club does that? Real Madrid are looking to spend that money they sold ronaldo on some big players. Has long has we in a profitable top 4, it’s like being an arsenal fan. There is no long term plan, hope for the top 4 that’s it. But we have a dangerous rival right by us, could be replacing us doing parades not in red, but in sky blue and our clubs boats is happy allow this to happen, has long had their top 4 golden carrot is in place. Like Woodward said this year has been a good year
 
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Sambob said:
If that did actually happen, Matt Judge is United's head of corporate developement, not likely to be an agent more likely to be a noodle sponsor.
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Granted it was a MEN report but they had said that Judge is helping Ed with transfers this summer, Judge working from Carrington while Ed is working from the London offices.
 
Woodward and the glazers are an utter disgrace to club, all they care about is money in from the millions of fans worldwide, they could not give a damn about mufc. This is the second time woodward and the board have shafted jose on transfers, jose should walk away and tell them to stuff it.
 
Oneunited26 said:
Look who pogba is playing with? He is going to have heavy legs of matic and fellaini around him, and god knows if Fred needs a settling in periods, so basically we going into the new season with the same team. Our backline is beyond repair it needs an overhaul, the fact jones, smalling, Valencia and young could be our backfour is all you need to know about the direction we are at. We have inept Woodward still chasing unicorns in Bale a player we don’t need, when we need holes filling. We like a club who thinks putting a plaster over a gunshot wound will get us by. And this oh Jose has spent money, we the richest club in the world the club brags about, yet we still using mata, fellaini, Jones, smalling, Valencia, young and lingard for a ton of games, we will not win a title with that kind of playing staff. Because they squad players, they basically a huge part of the starting 11, and car crash Phil Jones will cost us again
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100% agree with you mate. I've been saying the same over and again.

Hopefully we can finally collectively realise as a fan base that these substandard players have been holding us back for years. It's funny because we have the match winners Pogba, Sanchez, Lukaku, Martial, Rashford - top class players who would get into most other teams in the world and would be performing better there, it's the squad around them lets us down year after year. Theres now no way we can do the 4 in 4 out that we need at this stage and the players you mentioned will be in every starting XI for us next season.
 
An Irish Red said:
We already had a worse attack than City and Liverpool and they've added Mahrez and Shaqiri to what they had.

City have six attacking midfielders better than Lingard (Silva, De Bruyne, Sane, Sterling, Mahrez, B.Silva) and some on here are happy with him being first choice for us. It's madness.
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Put it like that it is indeed madness, or at the very least a huge concern.

What is even more frustrating to me is that we wouldn't have to worry as much about new arrivals – whether at United or the top 4/6 clubs – if Mourinho successfully brought the best out of an attack made of Lukaku, Martial, Lingard, Rashford, Sanchez and Mata. Strength, pace, resilience, goals, assists... this attack should be more than enough to score plenty of goals and mount a decent title challenge.

It is undeniable that City and Liverpool currently have more firepower upfront but it is also mostly down to the way their manager uses the individual qualities of each player to fit his specific game plan and make them play forward as a team. We could argue that Mourinho has improved the workrate and link up play of a few players like Lingard and Lukaku but the team as a whole still seems very unbalanced and bereft of creativity when attacking. Players like Martial, Rashford and Mata sometimes play well due to their individual qualities on the ball but can't show what they do best week in week out due to a change in formations or overall approach. Over the last 2 years we have seen some glimpses that this team could score a lot of goals but for some reason we always seem to regress over the course of the season.

Of course we could be adding another game changing player like Bale for the right wing but this is what we've brought Sanchez to do at the club (City now got Mahrez instead) and we'll see if he delivers come August. Honestly I would rather have Mourinho focus on how his tactics and coaching can bring the best out of his current players like Klopp is able to do with Mané and Firminho, who I do believe would never perform as well in other clubs (a bit like Kagawa and Mkhitaryan at Dortmund for example).
 
Not sure if you guys need an outside look, but I found a few comments here rather controversial, so here I am.

You lot ask "who do we go for? There's no one decent available". Remember ppl told us Salah is another average headless chicken runner type last summer? Even worse things were said on Oxlade. Both Mane and Sane were not looking like a world beaters back when we/City signed them as well.
It's a proof you don't necessarily need an expensive established player. Sometimes you just need a prospect player that fits your system, and a bit of luck. There is always someone out there on the market that can become your hidden gem.
Players you have currently are not that bad, maybe some of them just don't fit your playstyle. Or your manager misuses them, like it is with Pogba.

You're not looking good in the transfer market as of yet, but I suppose only we can say we've done fine so far.
Arsenal made a lot of movements, but essentially brought in a bunch of aging mid level players, one decent prospect in the middle, one mid level keeper and lost Wilshere. Not much to brag about.
Spurs did nothing.
City signed Mahrez for squad depth more than anything.
Chelsea are in rebuild and may end up weaker then they were a few months back.

Most teams are yet to make their moves, too early to panick.
 
At the moment, I can only imagine the possibility of one big signing to surprise us before the start of the season.
As mentioned by other posters, it's more likely to be a big name marquee signing rather than a solid performer in the positions that we are lacking.

I have the feeling that we are only looking at another CB or potentially a marquee forward.
I'm not convinced that the fullback positions are being targeted, and I don't think RW is specifically being targeted either.
 
StonedhamsterZA said:
I'm not jumping to panic stations at this point in the window, but my sole concern is as follows.

There are a lot of posts on here with people saying that we have a quality line-up with Fred, Martial staying, DDG staying, etc.

The only thing that pops into my mind is what if we have two injuries? If I recall, Pogba was out for a while last season with a recurring thigh issue? What if he and Lukaku are out for a few weeks at the same time. Then how does our squad look?

The issue is that we may (arguably) have sufficient quality in the Starting XI, but we have no quality in our depth. And that's the difference between us and a club like RM, where they have Kovacic cooling his heels for half a season. Now if RM had a few injuries, I'm sure he would feature, but that's what we need.

I'm not saying we go full Galactico and sign 3 players per position for 50m quid each, but we really do need people who can make a difference off the bench, or at least give the current XI a reason to play well, due to a potential drop.

I'd love us to sign a few more quality starters, but it's the depth I'm worried about. The ability to have the players to try different tactics during the season (not only our beloved Plan B).
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This is a big worry definitely. You need a quality squad with strength in depth in every position. Whilst our starting 11 may look decent on paper behind that is a massive drop off in quality. How are the main players going to stay motivated when we have such mediocrity across the team? One injury, one suspension to Pogba and we go back to Fellaini. One injury to Lukaku and who is there? Defence is even worse. We have a lot of quantity but very little quality. Look at City stockpiling on wingers. Not just content with D, Silva, Sane, Sterling, Aguero, Jesus they go out and add B,Silva and 1 year later - Mahrez. In that period we could've added either player but we didn't. Some will say it's a selection headache but it's not. In fact it's a very good problem to have. All of those players will be fighting hard and City could realistically play 2 different attacking line ups and still be title favorites.
 
RedNed77 said:
2016 - the Pogba thread
2017 - the Griezmann thread
2018 - the Wot no transfers thread

A downward spiral has turned into utter disaster for the more muppetty amongst us. Can’t believe this is the main thread this year. Where’s my shiny new thing woody? :(
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Indeed, a summer without a saga, not even a far fetched one :(
 
abdo99 said:
This is a big worry definitely. You need a quality squad with strength in depth in every position. Whilst our starting 11 may look decent on paper behind that is a massive drop off in quality. How are the main players going to stay motivated when we have such mediocrity across the team? One injury, one suspension to Pogba and we go back to Fellaini. One injury to Lukaku and who is there? Defence is even worse. We have a lot of quantity but very little quality. Look at City stockpiling on wingers. Not just content with D, Silva, Sane, Sterling, Aguero, Jesus they go out and add B,Silva and 1 year later - Mahrez. In that period we could've added either player but we didn't. Some will say it's a selection headache but it's not. In fact it's a very good problem to have. All of those players will be fighting hard and City could realistically play 2 different attacking line ups and still be title favorites.
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Exactly mate. You can't win a season with 11 players, no matter how good they are.
 
fergies coat said:
Why would I lie about it? I would of asked him myself but he was on his phone all the way there. He only came off it when we got to the security barrier. He said he was there to see Matt Judge, Said he was called Karol. I missed his second name it was something like soms or samz.
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Why do people on the internet lie about anything, got to be careful especially with transfer season.
 
Sassy Colin said:
What's the problem, we have the best goalkeeper in the World :confused:
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That's not the point though is it. They're making a massive improvement to a position they've had problems with for years!
 
Sassy Colin said:
What's the problem, we have the best goalkeeper in the World :confused:
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We do, but it's frustrating seeing our rivals aggressively address their weaknesses while we still face the prospect of having Valencia, Young, Smalling and Jones regularly start for us.
 
Sassy Colin said:
Football people are a bit thick, in general.
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That’s true.

Oneunited26 said:
The identity of this clubs ownership is making profits, and will only spend the money if needs be, 63 million spent and they even announced that GK signing has an actual signing lol. Now the club are in the top 4 the urge is not there, none of them know a thing about squads and what not, look at summer 2009, we sell the worlds best player and give Michael Owen the no 7 shirt, what other gigantic club does that? Real Madrid are looking to spend that money they sold ronaldo on some big players. Has long has we in a profitable top 4, it’s like being an arsenal fan. There is no long term plan, hope for the top 4 that’s it. But we have a dangerous rival right by us, could be replacing us doing parades not in red, but in sky blue and our clubs boats is happy allow this to happen, has long had their top 4 golden carrot is in place. Like Woodward said this year has been a good year
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Agreed, the bigger picture that’s emerging certainly seems about maintaining the status quo, in staying in the top 4 and making a trophy challenge, rather than competing to be the very best. I hope I’m wrong, but that’s the impression I’m getting.
 
Does feel like one of those summers where it will all come out at a later date what really has been going on. Still hope there's a few transfers going on the behind the scenes, there has to be.
 
StonedhamsterZA said:
Exactly mate. You can't win a season with 11 players, no matter how good they are.
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The likes of Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, City have bench players that would walk into our starting 11. How many of our starting 11 would get into their squads? De Gea, Pogba, and perhaps Lukaku and Martial on the bench. Maybe Fred too. That's it. The only way for the majority of this squad is down. The likes of Valencia, Jones, Smalling, Rojo, Fellaini are Everton, West Ham level. Herrera and Mata would probably go to some mid table Spanish side. So how are they getting regular spots at one of the biggest clubs in the world?

Also the club showed much more ambition in the transfer market when we were in EL than when we are in the CL. Summer 2014 (we didn't even qualify for Europe) and 2016 were much more exciting. How is that possible? It shows that staying in the top 4 is all the club care about and the ambition to fight for the biggest trophies isn't there. We are repeating the same mistakes we made in 2013. Obviously that time we were PL champions but we didn't strengthen properly and plummeted to 7th. Once out of the top 4, only then did we take steps to spend like other big clubs but Van Gaal spent it terribly on a lot of average players. But still we began to spend like we should've done in 2013.
 
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