The fact that Mourinho signed 2 centerback, 1rightback, 2 central midfielders , 2 attacking midfielders and 1 striker and the team still looks to be in need of 5 signings to replace some of his signings is very worrying.
Wot, no transfers?
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Using international football to play devils advocate. Then using a player that played at right back for his country and has been shite at centre back for Arsenal.
You know why my view is reasonable and yours is nonsensical? Because you are 'rating' players like it's a video game while I'm assessing the players contribution and the level of team they contributed to.
Herrera was a mainstay in a Europa league winning team, and was at a good level in 16/17. Now we have got Matic who has been one of our best players this season as a CL level team while Herrera is a squad player.
https://howmanydaystill.com/its/were-doomed-woodward-out
Oh my god only 23 days left guys !!!! It's time for panic !!! When will we get the 7 new players that we so desperately need !?!?!
some of you guys...
Oh my god only 23 days left guys !!!! It's time for panic !!! When will we get the 7 new players that we so desperately need !?!?!
some of you guys...
It wouldn't surprise me if Mourinho said no more signings expected in this weeks press conference. Unless we sell someone other than Darmian there isn't really a slot.
Alright, which one of you set up this website?
Gotta haul ass..
Another brilliant thing about the excellent world cup was that it meant less bullshit than normal when it comes to transfer rumors. World cup 2018 I love you!
The club and manager will being accepting mediocrity if this is true.
Mediocrity costs little but pays well. Another top 4 finish and a decent cup run or two keeps the money rolling in.
Yeah 2nd place is definitely "mediocrity".
It would be at Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern or Juventus.
Anyhow, there is no guarantee that we will finish 2nd next season.
It has been as plain as day for a long time what our weaknesses are. So far we have failed to fix those issues with the squad and we are now running out of time.
I'd suggest that even Fellaini's biggest fan's wouldn't even be exciting with him as a new signing. It would be some achievement if Dalot can come in, start and impress from the very start and I am completely underwhelmed by the thought of Sanchez playing next season-obviously I really hope to be proved wrong.
So as it stands is Fred the hugely exciting signing that the richest club in the world needs to progress this season?
For me it is obvious that we need a high quality wide player ort at the very least a full back with attacking prowess. Here's hoping that a couple of signings will be announced in the next few weeks.
So 2nd in the league is now mediocre? Lord help every other team bar City then...
midfield issue has been addressed this window, signed a back up right back and we've retained the players we wish to keep. We'll be better next season, as we now have a better squad, not 1 player sold who was a regular last season. So please explain how anyone is settling to be 'mediocre'?
Getting ones knickers in a twist over a press conference that hasn't even taken place yet is laughable...
It didn’t go worse. Berbatov had already made Tevez redundant. The quality of the playing squad going worse is hyperbolic at best. United did not finish lower than 2nd from Ronaldo’s departure to SAF/Gill’s departure. We always competed. We lost the league on goals difference(2012) & Drogba’s offside goal at OT(2010).
You won’t go into Herrera’s stuff cos you would lose the debate. It was years ago but it was under Woodward. Don’t cherry-pick - it happened under Ed’s watch.
We have a very poor defence. Do not let the goals against/clean sheets of last season fool you otherwise. You should thank De Gea’s heroic saves - our defence is bottom fodder at best. Smalling/Jones are a liability and I have simple statistics to back it.
2017/18 Season
Ederson - 70 shots faced - 20 goals conceded.
De Gea - 120 shots faced - 23 goals conceded
Lloris - 82 shots faced - 24 goals conceded
Courtois - 84 shots faced - 27 goals conceded
Karius/Mignolet - 87 shots faced - 34 goals conceded.
United played the most defensive of these teams and yet our goalie faced 120 shots on target. Our defence is nothing to write home about. Just be thankful we have a superhuman goalie otherwise we would have finished below Arsenal.
Nothing about Woodward’s signings have been sensible. Look at the other giants in Europe making astute signings. Players like Neymar, Mbappe, Ousmane Dembele, etc should be playing for Man Utd. We make so much money - the turnover is like top 3 in Europe but only 2 of our players are world class in a squad of 30 players.
Remember this quote......”We could do things in the market that other clubs can dream about.” Yep, Woodward made that statement and he went on to buy Fred(his buttprint is still very visible on the Brazilian bench in Russia), Grant(a fifth-tier goalie) and Dalot(a no-mark fullback who will understudy a retired winger). Woodward is right....none of Man City or Liverpool would dream about the calibre of these mediocre players.
The reality is that he has not backed Jose Mourinho. Look at what Pep has bought....City were in a healthier state than United before 2016 and yet City have bought thrice the number of players Jose has bought. Pep spent about £250m on his defence alone - that is the kind of financial backing I expect from Woodward but he’s lagging behind.
You can dress this however you want but Woodward is doing a terrible job. Yet, when Jose fails to achieve the goal of securing the PL, the media would blame Jose when all the fault lies at the doorstep of Ed. Woodward has been bringing a dagger to a gunfight since SAF departed and this is why we have finished only twice in the top 4 in the last 5 seasons. It’s an embarrassment! In any other industry, Woodward would have been given his P45 for a shoddy job.
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Five fecking seasons without a premier league Title after spending nearly a billion fecking pounds in that time is the very definition of mediocre-just like the quality of our football last season!
It was blatantly obvious that we needed two new starting fullbacks and a creative right sided winger to really push on. So far nothing on that front!
If you’re happy to see Valencia, Young and Mata in the first team most weeks, then fair fecks. The rest of us are quite concerned with the clubs approach to the transfer window this summer.
Who exactly is getting their knickers in a twist? I was hypothetically replying to a post!
We don’t know shit, but it wouldn’t surprise me if our transfer business is done.
Or Fellaini for that matter. Is not upgrading Young or Valencia either
...the problem is the difference of points between the first and second place
we need to improve a lot this season .. especially in defense and midfield.
we need to improve a lot this season .. especially in defense and midfield.
True - just a little concerning given that City are City and Liverpool have added Keita/Fabinho/Shaq and possibly Alisson / Fekir to add to that.
That's right. You don't win anythin wi kids after all...
Well it’s all relative. 2nd isn’t good enough for United but it would be great for teams like Everton or Spurs.
Bang on!
Especially the part about our defence. It is piss poor and without De Gea god knows how far down the table we would have been.
Mourinho was always honest in terms of transfers. He said:
1) no need for attacking players( after alexis)
2) one midfielder needed( done)
3) we will buy 2 or 3 players( dalot and fred)
4) young will be important player for next season( no new left back)
So i expect one more player. Central defender. All deadwood staying in club. And yeah, i am in pessimistic mood now after wc final so everything is doom and gloom for me. Sorry for negativity
1) no need for attacking players( after alexis)
2) one midfielder needed( done)
3) we will buy 2 or 3 players( dalot and fred)
4) young will be important player for next season( no new left back)
So i expect one more player. Central defender. All deadwood staying in club. And yeah, i am in pessimistic mood now after wc final so everything is doom and gloom for me. Sorry for negativity
It doesn't bother me either way. Give some players a chance to step up, if it's not working there is always January.
Overall I think we have a good squad. Get a good RM and we will look far more balanced.
My logic is nonsensical
You spout out these bizzare statements like the one in bold. I'm not rating players like any video game. I'm looking at the value add in their relevant positions and judging accordingly. I'm not spouting BS like "Herrera was a mainstay in the Europa cup". So fecking what? Mkhitaryan was our best performer in that campaign and his ass still got sold. Herrera is standout for specific games which require man marking a player or generally breaking up play. Aside from that he offers very little.
Herrera, Fellaini and McTominay are all broadly the same type of player (Fellaini being the only with a unique quality of being a target man). Neither of these 3 are trusted with picking up the ball and driving the team forward, or finding any form of final pass to carve open a defence.
We have Pogba and that's where it ends. If he hits a patch of bad form or gets injured, both of which occurred last season, we will struggle to see out games as consistently as we should.
Not all that fussed about midfield and attack, although we could do with one of each.
To go into the season with the same full backs and one of Smalling/Jones likely to start is utterly negligent. I think it’s make or break this year for JM and I can’t believe he’s happy with what he has.
To go into the season with the same full backs and one of Smalling/Jones likely to start is utterly negligent. I think it’s make or break this year for JM and I can’t believe he’s happy with what he has.
I agree other than the negativity part. He also said this in April, which would back up no more attacking signings, Blind and Darmian leaving and youngsters stepping up:Mourinho was always honest in terms of transfers. He said:
1) no need for attacking players( after alexis)
2) one midfielder needed( done)
3) we will buy 2 or 3 players( dalot and fred)
4) young will be important player for next season( no new left back)
So i expect one more player. Central defender. All deadwood staying in club. And yeah, i am in pessimistic mood now after wc final so everything is doom and gloom for me. Sorry for negativity
'We are going to invest the basic to improve our squad,’ Mourinho said. ‘We need to find a replacement for Michael Carrick, if Marouane Fellaini leaves, we need to find a replacement for Marouane Fellaini.
‘There is always in the group of players, in the squad, there is always a player or a couple of players, they are not playing a lot, and they will try obviously to leave.
‘So we are going again to touch our squad and to believe that more than spend, spend, spend, is probably the evolution of our players.
‘We have some young players that need to get with both hands opportunities with their evolution, so let’s see.
I'm worried about the attack. Still very poor. The full backs we have talent in Shaw and Dalot, it'll be down to Jose to get them playing well.
But none of our forwards bar Lukaku are top tier. Alexis maybe 3 seasons ago but huge question marks now.
But none of our forwards bar Lukaku are top tier. Alexis maybe 3 seasons ago but huge question marks now.
I think Mourinho will say one more signing
When is the press conference?
When is the press conference?
3 seasons ago? It’s amazing how quickly this place has turned on Sanchez. If he’s so past it, why was everyone creaming themselves when we signed him?
I wasn't. 3 seasons ago was an exagerration, point is he wasn't great for us. I didn't really wanted him as he was a LW and we had Martial/Rashford, I wanted Mahrez. I'm still hopeful he can be good for us, but he's not a dribbler with the ball which is what I think out team is crying out for imo to stretch play.
He’s looked as bad as the rest of our attack, they’re not the problem.
I tend to agree.
Second place is not mediocrity regardless of spend (which is also second highest). But it's certainly underachieving.
Although a lot of posters on this page are dipping into absolutely outrageous hyperbole tiptoing on the ludicrous, we're definitely moving out of the "we have plenty of time, it's "Only" May/June/late June/early July" type posts, and very much into the, "are we even going to try and improve further" territory.
You have to wonder what the plan is. Are we just saving for a worldie who may or may not emerge?
You have to wonder what the plan is. Are we just saving for a worldie who may or may not emerge?
We have one of the most incompetent management ever, so do not expect nothing.
It's a bit of worry given the obvious deficiencies of our first team that were evidenced last season and the amount of chaff in our squad that there is no real news of transfers. Our right flank is so non-existent currently and there is seemingly no vision to improve it.
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