Never said he should be out, he will get better with time. He is/has been under immense pressure, so I think he just wanted to get this done. But we can't be spending so much money on players from now on, wouldn't really be United like.
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It would. The only time it wasn't United like is when we had the class of 92, but before that it was the Babes.
Mate, that the fees the club is paying doesn't bother you doesn't mean it should bother no one. Be honest, haven't you moaned about City for always buying, always spending, buying the PL, if Man United is going to do the same, why then start with it is not our money, it is United's money etc. As a fan, I really liked United because they were the best, while Chelsea was paying/buying more for instance, that was one reason. So I do care.
If we have the money, we'll hopefully spend a lot of them. United-like is bullshit, we spend more money than any other club in EPL during the nineties.
United haven't really been overspending for players, tha's why for such a long time our most expensive player were Rio/Berba while United is like the biggest club in the world.
Not all of the babes were from the academy, even if it was the vast majority that were right. I know one of them was bought for 11,999 pounds.
Yeah, there was nothing difficult about the Herrera deal at all. Bilbao welcomed us with open arms. It's irrelevant whether the deals were high prices or not. The positive is that we are releasing funds for the players our manager wants.
United spend money they earn. We're not City or Chelsea spending money gifted us by a dodgy oil baron or a fecking royal family while their country is in abject poverty. We earn so we spend.
feck worrying about how much they cost. We're Man United, we'll do what we want.
They're still in our top 5 transfer fees.
That's exactly United like. We've promoted youth yes, it's been the backbone for a lot of our success. But United has always had an apetite for smashing transfer transfer records right from the 60s
Dennis Law, Alex Stepney, Ian Storey-Moore, Ray Wilkins, Gary Burtles, Gordon McQueen, Brian Robson, Andrew Cole, Mark Hughes, Roy Keane, Mark Hughes, Dwight Yorke, Gary Pallister, Jaap Stam, Ruud van Nistelrooy, Juan Sebastian Veron, Cristiano Ronaldo, Rio Ferdinand, Wayne Rooney, Dimitar Berbatov, David de Gea were all big money deals.
We were also close to record deals to the like of Gascoigne, Shearer etc.
Difference in view, I am Dutch and here the transfer fees are very important. Clubs don't really have money so you have to be careful with the money you have, here it isn't splash splash. There was a Luke Shaw topic at a dutch football site today, reporting him signing soon, people are calling United idiots etc while over here it is like the most normal transfer ever. That's the reason why it bothers me and why I care a little, but excuse me.
That we buy isn't the problem, but we should also look at the amount and are those amounts in proportion to the situation/player etc imo.
From January and the start of this summer its going great, Mata, Herrera and Shaw are 3 quality players that will probably be at United for years. The less said about last summer the better though, that was a complete disaster.
Definitely. Just hope we're being sensible with our expenditure and making sure we're balancing the books in terms of FFP. It seems a bit gungho this Shaw deal. It's an outrageous amount of money but I guess if it means we won't have to buy a new left-back for 15 years, it will look like a good deal by then.
In Three years time when we have some of the finest football players in the World plying their trade at Old Trafford. Are we still going to dislike him?.
The Equalizer takes the lead.
The Equalizer takes the lead.
Oh I understand that mate, it's prudent to look closely at your finances. But when the club has a revenue of 400 million+ and is among the top 3 earners in world football it wouldn't be out of order to start spending like one. And TBF we haven't gone on a major shopping spree since 2007. If we have to compete vs Real, Barcelona, Bayern, PSG etc we have to even overspend at times in the market (atleast until the academy starts churning out top class talent like the class of '92). Otherwise we'll just end up losing out on premium talent. Take Eden Hazard for example. At the time his transfer fee was baulked at but now he's worth atleast 20 million more.
We desperately need CM and LB. If there is quality we should make the move. Ronaldo was 80m. I think Real made huge profit on him, marketing side alone...
I have been quite critical of Woodward and especially last summer. Herrera and Shaw would be a good, no a very good start to convincing me. I have not seen Herrera play but I am convinced Shaw is a real talent and if you can get him young you have to take the shot. If and when Woodward does that I will cut him some slack.
In the back of my mind I keep picturing the Glazers "protecting their investment", which is fine, just get the trophy back.
In the back of my mind I keep picturing the Glazers "protecting their investment", which is fine, just get the trophy back.
Yeah, I get that we should be prudent with FFP, but we make so much money we're one of the few clubs who it isn't a real worry for. It's about time we started to spend the money in line with the size of club we are.
i don't have the vaguest idea of what you mean by this?In Three years time when we have some of the finest football players in the World plying their trade at Old Trafford. Are we still going to dislike him?.
The Equalizer takes the lead.
Woodward got my backing the day he gave Van Gaal the job and Giggs the assistant position.
Last summer will be the making of him. I'm excited to see who else we bring in.
Last summer will be the making of him. I'm excited to see who else we bring in.
It was just a lame attempt at using a hybrid equalizer joke combined with his transfer success today. Is it still woodward out for you then?
yeah look at it that way thats pretty sensational, it been a log time since we brought 3 players who could go straight into the first team in such a short space of time. if we where judging him from January to now people would be in love with him.
obviously though last summer was such a mess, it isnt easy to forget!
lol sorry mate thats still gone way over my head.....
but no, not at all. we all no he messed up last summer, though i think moyes is equal at least in blame.
but since then he has turned it round, mata, herrera, shaw, hiring van gaal, showing a willingness to spend money and he has also done a great job with sponsorship, which no matter what ever way you look at it is a huge part of his job.
so no i don't want him out, i haven't 100% forgiven him for acting like a douche last summer, but get a decent defensive midfielder and center back through the door by the end of window and he may just have made up for it.
How can you forgive someone, when you don't have the bare facts in front of you?. All of what you're saying is based on pure speculation. He's aquiring players, a job he was employed to do.
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Woody tomorrow morning.
Woody tomorrow morning.
He's played a blinder. (Northern Accent)
Now Woody can afford that chin he's always wanted.
he is also employed to look after man united commercial dealings, which he has done a stella job at. and yes since janauary he has done a great job at signing players.
but he didnt acquire decent players last summer when we despratly needed them, he seemed to run round like a guy who didn't know what he was doing.
but you are right none of us are in command of all the facts, all we can say is how it appeared from the outside looking in. i also think moyes didn't give woodward a very realistic list of targets and anyone would have struggled with to obtain them
but it is his job to manage a situation like that, so i still think woodward deserves a share of the blame for last summer, you can't be that high up the chain of command and not played any part in that shambles!
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Or as some players and journos are saying, Moyes didn't want Garay (confirmed by the player), Herrera (by Graham Hunter who said that Moyes personally talked with him for that) and rumoured that he didn't want Thiago and Strootman, with all of these being deal done.
Nah. The less he looks like Roy Hodgson, the better.
What's the point of supporting a club that spends it's way to victory, regardless of whether the money was earned or not?
I took pride in supporting a club with a tradition of bringing youth through the ranks, long term planning, etc. Now I'm told that all that was not the norm, and we'll spend our way to success, and so on.
I'm a fan, so I enjoy the success regardless, but it would feel like the cheat code was on while playing a game. Yay for cognitive dissonance I guess.
Just my 2 cents.
I took pride in supporting a club with a tradition of bringing youth through the ranks, long term planning, etc. Now I'm told that all that was not the norm, and we'll spend our way to success, and so on.
I'm a fan, so I enjoy the success regardless, but it would feel like the cheat code was on while playing a game. Yay for cognitive dissonance I guess.
Just my 2 cents.
Apparently he has Vidal on his radar, supposedly the reports in Italy are that Juventus' resolve will be tested with a £30m bid...
It is disheartenning to begin with i must admit, and despise most footballers these days. People accused United of being like that even back in the day, when we signed Palister. A win will do good sir!. 
Are you being sarcastic? We were desperately in need of a few signings. Of all the big clubs in England, we are the ones who haven't thrown our weight in the transfer window for quite a while and this season it was absolutely necessary to do in order to give a signal of intent in terms of our ambition. Also, these are very special situations. One player bought himself out of his contract and the other is the best player his current club has ever produced.
I'm so pleased i planted a few cabbages in the back garden when i First noticed this thread.
Oh this is much better, we have strengthened 2 of our weakened area's, spent the big bucks on players who could play a huge part in the next few years. Now we need another CM a wide player and hopefully another fullback or CB
Some people will never 'like' him as he's a glazer man. Thats the bottom line.
If he's helping us sign the cheques that help bring in the players needed, I don't care what man he is. What matters is we sign the right players
Still no harm in trying to convince them otherwise though. Agree totally otherwise, good sir.
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