Less than two weeks in. There is another 3+ months to go. People can't be losing their heads panicking now.I agree, I was backing you. Muppet season can drive you nuts.
How do you know we're haggling over a couple of million with any deal? Unless you're sitting in on the discussions you haven't got a clue what's going on. You're just making up things to be annoyed at.
People really just lose all sense of reason in football transfer windows.
wtf?
I can't understand people who defend Woodward so much when they know so little about what exactly is prime directive is with regards to transfers.
Also people quoting the mata transfer as if it was the glazers proving that after 10 years they were finally prepared to invest in the squad on par with our nearest rivals....
What a bunch of horseshit. Mata signing was sanctioned only out of desperation. Had we been comfortably in top 4 it's questionable whether or not 40mil would of been made available.
People need to grow up and wake up. The glazers only need united in the top 4 and van gaal may actually be able to accomplish that with one or two signings.
The glazers strength is PR and whoring the club to any brand that will give them a penny.
They don't give a flying f**k about fans, about the history or about anything other then tge bottom line. They are prepared to gamble with the success of the club by cutting corners, if they can make more money.
Woodward, unlike gill, is a glazer man through and through. He could easily , let's say, fly home from Australia to make it look like he's gonna try and sign a big world star and just goto the Barcelona museum.
Or he could let's say bid on a player, refuse to budge on an offer and then leak to the press that it was imposters not acting on behalf of the club. Or he could just put stupid bids in for players to make it look like the club is ambitious in its transfer dealings...
Or he might just have very little to do if the united manager has a generic 30million budget to spend. The papers can do all the promotion on how big the club is in stature and how many players we are going to sign. If we don't sign players, the manager seems to get the blame and the club owners seem to get away with any ridicule by some of the more moronic fans who somehow think a selective three year period of decent spending proves they are not a problem!!
As most of us said when we failed to make the top 4, our chances of signing the cream of footballing talents took a huge hit. Sure people wanted to believe we are United and it wouldnt matter but it does.It does seem the case that we struggle to bring in the top players from abroad.
Domestic top players seem another story, especially the last few years, but we seem to bizarrely have less appeal than we should to these top bracket players even though we have the name, money and salary. I never understand it.
As most of us said when we failed to make the top 4, our chances of signing the cream of footballing talents took a huge hit. Sure people wanted to believe we are United and it wouldnt matter but it does.
Even when Moyes spoke about how players they spoke to didnt seem phased by our lack of european football next season i questioned just who he was thinking of bringing in, for the top players and mercenaries is most certainly does
Jeez calm down, anywhere in my post did i say we werent going to buy anyone? All i did was agree with a previous poster about how we seem to be finding it hard to attract any top names...Oh feck off we haven't seen the end of the transfer window yet.
Jeez calm down, anywhere in my post did i say we werent going to buy anyone? All i did was agree with a previous poster about how we seem to be finding it hard to attract any top names...
Well no not really, rumours are that Chelsea have already agreed a fee for CostaWould you also agree that every other team in the top 7 is currently finding it hard to attract names?
He either delivers this summer or he should be sacked, simple as that.
He either delivers this summer or he should be sacked, simple as that.
Really? Not only do we need two top quality CM's, we need a consistent and reliable CB and Winger.
Obviously. However, he still has a lot to prove with regards to his suitability in the role of Chief Executive of Manchester United never mind taking on other positions.It's what he's good at. I don't like him but you can't deny that when it comes to hooking sponsors, Woodward has no peer.
Last year he was a novice working with a manager with no clear ideas. Both went for impossible targets with insulting bids. This year he's working under an experienced manager according to whom, he's been given a list of targets and budget was not discussed. So:
Well known manager : check
Money available : check
Intention to spend : check
We keep saying money talks. It has proved true for other clubs. If Woodward is unable to seal the deal again, he clearly is not suited to the footballing side of the club.
Definitely. Moyes was given 10 months in his job, Woodward was given longer and hasn't yet delivered. We will obviously wait until the end of the window, but he should be sacked if we dont get the right players in.He either delivers this summer or he should be sacked, simple as that.
Just my opinion if we get two players who fit well in we would be up there challenging. A front line of RVP Rooney Mata is up there with anything the league has. DDG is the best GK in the league. Carrick steady as is Evra and Rafael. Smalling Jones Evans needs improved on as does a midfielder. We don't hav a brilliant team but right now it's not a brilliant league.
I love that on simultaneous threads on the forum we've got people complaining that Woodwood is leaking transfer news and other people moaning that we don't know who we're after.
Assuming that all of our competition stands still, which they won't. City have already said they want three players, Cheslki want ''two top players'' - would you bet on them not getting them? I wouldn't.
It's not Woodward's fault. Undoubtedly, the Glazers have greater influence in how much we offer for players. Other factors hurt us too - Manchester is not London/Barcelona/Paris. We've got a shitty squad with few players that other top players would say they can't wait to play with. We're not in the CL this year though I don't think thats too much of an issue.
Ultimately, we need to throw SERIOUS (see: Real Madrid) money at a few top players. Get two in and we will be a much stronger position.
Truth is though, these ''two players'' - We haven't really signed a top player in over 10 years, RVP aside. Maybe Mata, though £37m is ''upper mid-range'' these days.
Assuming that all of our competition stands still, which they won't. City have already said they want three players, Cheslki want ''two top players'' - would you bet on them not getting them? I wouldn't.
Last year he was a novice working with a manager with no clear ideas. Both went for impossible targets with insulting bids. This year he's working under an experienced manager according to whom, he's been given a list of targets and budget was not discussed. So:
Well known manager : check
Money available : check
Intention to spend : check
We keep saying money talks. It has proved true for other clubs. If Woodward is unable to seal the deal again, he clearly is not suited to the footballing side of the club.
Not sure the Madrid/Bale deal is a good contrast to our general approach as A) a lot of posters were criticising the insanity of that bid last year and B) we did in fact match that bid.
We can certainly do things better than we have been but we're never going to be able to operate in the same way Madrid does and I'm fairly sure a lot of posters wouldn't necessarily want that either.
Erm …. no. The 'experienced manager' is working under him.
When will the penny drop … Woodward runs the club and all report to him, the manager included. He is incredibly powerful at Old Trafford.
Ever since SAF stood down, only the Glazers hold more power than he does.
And he has the Glazers unreserved support and backing. Probably rightly so as his business pedigree is second to none.
There are so many variables in a football team. We have a new coach, we have several good young players who I believe only need a platform, even though next season might be too early for them to carry the torch themselves if we're looking for the title. There's a lot more our current team can do. Would it be better with the right, say, four quality additions? Yes, but sometimes you can't get everything you want. There are no perfect teams. A two right ones and progress within can still do plenty.
Bale will prove a bargain. As Perez said, "the most expensive transfers turn out the cheapest" in reference to the revenue and excitement they generate.
The fact that we could even attract a welsh kid over Real is extremely frustrating.
We're a tier 2 club in terms of weight in the transfer market and attractiveness to players.
Our competition are the likes of Juventus - except they have extremely favorable conditions to sign up and coming bargains, in comparison to us that suffer mega taxes for being in the richest league in world football by a country mile.