And here I was thinking he was going to prove everyone wrong 
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That's a bit unnecessary.
And here was I thinking he had until later than early morning on 1st June to do it.And here I was thinking he was going to prove everyone wrong
He can have all time in the world he won't come good.
It's 3 months to the day that the window closes. Let's judge him the next day.
Last year we all laughed at his pursuit of Fabregas, but I won't laugh this summer if he bids £30m.
LvG has at least given him some more realistic targets than the FM obsessed Moyes.
He needs to deliver now.
He needs to deliver now.
Marketing for chairs? Long overdue.
That's well and good but I'm pretty sure he and the club stated that they wanted deals done before the start of the World Cup. The fact that it is a World Cup year coupled with no CL football next season makes this summer even harder than last to attract the very best. A half decent tournament and prices will start rocketing.
I'm not hugely confident about this summer but it's way too early to starts getting on Woodward's case about it, he has plenty of time to surprise us.
Woody out!
On September 1st if he disappoints
On September 1st if he disappoints
Yes, but having said that any player worth his salt who is going to the WC would surely wait until after it's over before committing himself because if he has a good tournament he could drastically increase his earning power.
Added to that, the targets have shifted since Moyes left and Van Gaal arrived so we're now looking at players who weren't in the frame previously and therefore starting from scratch in negotiations.
Yeah? And what are those?
Moyes did okay, he targeted Kroos, who is not that happy with Munich, emerging players like Shaw, Carvalho. Actually only Strootman, and in some respect Hummels, have been a new additions, we have been linked with Miranda and Koke before, while still under Moyes.
Moyes' targetting of players (except maybe last summer) was probably one of the best aspects of his stay with United.
I won't go into Kroos' argument again, I live in Germany and just know that 99% of German players don't leave Bayern unless they are not wanted at all by Bayern, which is not the case with Kroos. They just don't want to pay what he is asking for, but they don't pay peanuts either, so Kroos won't leave for some extra cash.
Then we have been linked with young dutch players who are talented, young and who LvG is already working with. Strootman is also a realistic target. And LvG seems to have put a line under the ridiculous Cavani rumours thank God. One or two of his targets might be unrealistic, but that's fine. At least we have many targets / a more diversified target list.
I will be glad if we get some young players who actually manage to adapt to United and stay here for years to come than a 27 mil not-even-a-midfielder who his previous manager even failed to make any use of at United.
Our team needs rebuilding/young players, who can form a successful team, not just some FM names.
Mata/RvP/Rooney combo has already shown that you don't necessarily need 11 world class players, but a manager who knows what he is doing and who can make those players perform as a team in order to be successful. If those players then turn out to be Fabregas et al, then fine as long as LvG can make him perform for us.
But if they happen to be players I have never heard of, but they in the end perform for us, then that will be as fine for me.
Buying the likes of Kroos is one thing, knowing how to utilise him properly and create a style of football is another. You only have to look at the English national team to know that when it comes to making a bunch of stars play a cohesive brand of football, the british coaches are the last ones you should trust... that is why Rodgers is a rarity based on what we have seen of him so far.
You could give Moyes R. Madrid and he'd have them playing like a poor mans Getafe.
You could give Moyes R. Madrid and he'd have them playing like a poor mans Getafe.
I agree with you, but my only worry is that if we're in for some "no name" untapped talent who may become world class why haven't we signed anyone/announced an agreement yet given how long our season has been over? It makes me think we are in for one or two top tier players which will take a while to negotiate (esp with unproven rookie Woowar)..every club is hoping for the world club to drive up prices so few will sell willingly now.
I don't really know, if we are interested in some Dutch players maybe LvG is confident he will get them and has already talked to them, but as those players and he himself are in world cup preparation, the details might be sorted out later. I mean everyone knew LvG was going to be our new manager and still it took us several weeks to officially confirm it, similar things will probably happen with the players.
Also it's not that we talk to their clubs and the clubs happily let their top talents go just because the fee is right. They also need time to set up a plan, maybe they need time to hold initial talks to their possible replacements, etc., before officially agreeing to sell their current players to us.
These things take time, United might be even slower than other clubs, but even with Fergie and Gill we usually had long transfer sagas and sometimes even sagas/rumours for 2-3 summers in a row before finally getting the players.
The Transfer Window doesn't open until 1st July and runs to 1st Sept. There's no reason why we would have signed players yet, the season has only been finished for a few weeks. I'll be surprised if we make more than perhaps one or maybe two signings before the World Cup is finished.
The transfer window opened between clubs in the premier league the day after the last game of the season.
How many tv interviews has Ed Woodward done since taking over? NONE. No fecking interviews from the chief exec at Man Utd. Gill would do at least 3 or 4 interviews a year especially during the transfer season. Apart from a voice interview in a noisy restaurant with Andy Mitten this cnut never talks.
He's gone missing again. I thought he wanted our targets locked up before the world cup? I'm sure he'll use the Cup and new manager coming in as an excuse for a poor window.
Correct, however all but one of our targets are from outwith the PL as far as I know.
Nobody has done anything yet, except Liverpool mopping up squad players. Woodward had a shocker last summer but it will only be fair to judge him after the season starts and we can see who has been brought in and who has left.
Great post!
How does this even make sense?
Manchester United missed targets before, remember Ronaldinho?
Could've, would've, should've.
Reality is it didn't.
Precisely. Unless we are going for players not in the world cup, why would the selling club accept a bid now?
Everyone knows a good world cup will inflate the price
Woodward out.
His last signing was mata, which was a difficult signing with big price tag. Let's just Waite and see how he deals with our transfer targets this transfer window. His latest job appointment shows that he is respected around the Europe and he is no mug.
He's gonna spend all summer barking up the Vidal tree, finally realize he isn't coming down around about August 15, bid 20mil for Fabregas and end up buying one of those non-Strootman Dutch cnuts for 35m on deadline day. Nailed on.
Don't know whether to laugh at this as poor satire or an unfortunate realistic scenario come August..
I wouldn't bet against the above but you never know. Maybe we'll get him for £20m or so.
I wouldn't like to be Woodward if Van Gaal arrives and nobody has been signed yet. 
Was the fact he turned down De Rossi for silly money (Like £5m) or similar ever confirmed?
I wouldn't like to be in his shoes this summer, if he fails to deliver the signings we desperately need then his role as CEO will become untenable.
Where did you hear that from? De Rossi promised he wouldn't leave Roma after a certain date had passed. United came in for him after that date.
You have to thank the dithering of one Mr Moyes for that.
Did the round last summer, that's why I ask if it had ever been confirmed, as De Rossi is someone I'd love us to go for still but with your statement it seems he wouldn't be available anyway,.,
Right now let me put it this way, if was on fire, i wouldnt piss on him to put it out.
But he signed Mata!
It's only since seeing this thread that I've noticed the insane volatility in the price of cabbages. Two days ago I went to the grocer to get a cabbage and it only cost 60p. Went back to the same grocer this morning and it was up to £4.80.
Might start buying cabbage futures to hedge out my vegetable risk.
Might start buying cabbage futures to hedge out my vegetable risk.
3rd party bids, with ferguson and gill doing the job. The only "thing" he bought is a tree and he could have bought it cheaper.
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