With a fully fit squad, what is our best xi according to you?

Something along the lines of:

Onana, Mazraoui, Martinez, De Ligt, Yoro, Amad, Ugarte, Mainoo, Bruno, Mount, Højlund.

I have a few issues with it though.

Firstly, Mazraoui needs to play but he might not be enough of an attacking option for Amorim at wing-back. I'm sure he could do an adequate job at centre back (like he did yesterday), but I assume Yoro will come into the side as the right sided central defender of the three. Perhaps De Ligt is dropped, Yoro plays centrally and Mazraoui stays where he played yesterday? Unlikely but it's an option. Shaw is fit again but a little similar to Mazraoui in the sense that I'm unsure if he is what Amorim wants in a wing-back. Perhaps he is, who knows? Either way, he is good competition for Martinez as the left sided central defender.

Second issue is the two number 10's. I think Amorim quite likes having one who is more of a passer and another who is more progressive as a dribbler. In that sense, perhaps Bruno and Mount are a bit too similar? Amad can pass and dribble so he's a great choice for this role, though that leaves you short at right wing-back. Perhaps long term we will move for Quenda and use Amad as a 10? Or simply sign a more dribble orientated player who can play as a 10 and keep Amad at right wing-back? We tried Garnacho as the 'dribbler 10' yesterday and I'm unconvinced that this is the role for him.

Final issue is of course the centre forward. We simply don't have one who is good enough.
 
IMO it is:
Onana
De Ligt, Martinez, Yoro
Mazraoui, Mainoo, Ugarte, Shaw
Amad, Hojlund, Mount/Bruno/Garnacho

Martinez down the middle because he's the slowest of the three main CBs and the outside CBs will be constantly having to face quicker players because they will be getting pulled wide regularly. Also Martinez is arguably the best player in the team on the ball and can step up into midfield comfortably from that central CB position with the ball if need be.

Mainoo for possession, Ugarte for legs in the middle. Maz and Shaw at WB needs no explanation.
 
Onana
Yoro-- De Ligt --Martinez
Amad - Mainoo--Ugarte- Mazraoui
Bruno - Mount
Hojlund

The technical floor of this team would be so much higher than what we saw yesterday for example.
 
So much is uncertain, but would want to see teams with at least Onana, a left footed player at LWB and/or LCB, a right-footed player at RWB and/or RCB, Ugarte (probably with Casemiro), Bruno and Rashford. Not that arsed about the rest currently. Lots of redundancy there.
 
For me, I believe our best team with everybody fit will be:

------------------------------------Onana---------------------------
--------------De Light------------Yoro-----------Martinez------------
Dalot-----------Mainoo---------------Ugarte---------------------Shaw
----------------------Bruno-------------------Garnacho------------------------
----------------------------------Hojlund-----------------------------------


Really hard to leave Mazz out, I think with everybody fully fit, it would actually be Martinez who loses out with Shaw going to LCB and Mazz going to wing back.

I found it really hard to pick between Mount and Garnacho too as I actually think Mount could be great as one of the 10's but Garnacho is out most explosive player.

A lot of it really does depend on fitness and form.
 
--------Onana-------
--- Maz --------- DeLigt ------------ Martinez
Dalot -- Mainoo ---- Ugarte --- Shaw
------ Amad ----------------------- Bruno
-------- Rasmus --------

Few caveats here ;
Obviously Shaw at LB isn't gonna work long term but with current squad he's out best option when fit. Really don't like Dalot there and think he could really excel at RWB. Would love to see Amas given some minutes to see how he'd do as it's one of our main problem areas at the minute.

Haven't then seen enough of Yoro yet to say he should be in first 11 but by most accounts he looks like a really exciting prospect.

Amad got a great assist from RWB y'day but think he'd be a lot more dangerous cutting in on his left after an overlap from the WB. He's also a bit lightweight to be defending a lot.
 
Dannn411 said:
IMO it is:
Onana
De Ligt, Martinez, Yoro
Mazraoui, Mainoo, Ugarte, Shaw
Amad, Hojlund, Mount/Bruno/Garnacho

Martinez down the middle because he's the slowest of the three main CBs and the outside CBs will be constantly having to face quicker players because they will be getting pulled wide regularly. Also Martinez is arguably the best player in the team on the ball and can step up into midfield comfortably from that central CB position with the ball if need be.

Mainoo for possession, Ugarte for legs in the middle. Maz and Shaw at WB needs no explanation.
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This is mine too. Wouldn't change anything here
 
Rajiztar said:
Width need to be provided by one of front three from left side. Bruno, half fit mount and rashford in same team can't provide that pressing from the front.

Chelsea had kante in this formation with jorginho or kovasic as partner to provide protection. With hardworking front three consists of mount,Werner and Havertz.

We never struggled for width though with James when he was at his physically best version and chilwell too.

Without kante and James that team struggled to create and defend.We witnessed that.
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Yeah, I am hoping that Ugarte can at least play the Kante lite role for us and will compliment some of the deficiencies in Mainoo's game, which are pace and power. Mainoo can control and move the ball up like no other player in our team, especially in midfield. I think both can combine to form a good midfield combination this season.

I hoping that Mount will get fit at some point as his pressing can be useful in that front three. Neither Rashford or Garnacho are very good at pressing; however they are the best we have got for that "width from the left side" you mention in your post. Bruno will play and provide the creativity unless we can find a better solution. His passing was more controlled in the last game, I am hoping his pressing will get better too under a better tactician in Amo.

Coming to the FB's, they are the two most important positions in this system. Unfortunately, I don't think we have a player who can really excel in that position. Ideally, we would require players in the ilk you mention who have pace, power and creativity to play there. The solution to that position is only going to come from the transfer window. Davis from Bayern would be a dream signing. Otherwise, Kekerz is the player I like from the ones I have seen. I don't know many RWB's besides Frimpong, who would be a good singing, imo.

For, now I think my line-up in the previous post is the best option. For next season, we'll have to get better FB's, a striker and midfielder if we have ambitions.

Something like this would be my preference for next season:

Onana
Maz Yoro Shaw
Frimpong Ederson Ugarte Davis
Amad Garnacho
Gyokeres/Sesko
​
 
Rasmus doesn't make my first XI. He isn't really showing too much... big fee, need to see some real talent there. He works hard, granted... but need more than that. Rashford, Amad, Garnacho, Bruno... they all start. Shaw, Mainoo, Dalot, Martinez too, Onana. The other two places, I have no idea.

It's where we are, as some of these starting XI players are struggling.
 
Onana
Mazraoui Yoro Martinez
Dalot Ugarte Mainoo Shaw
Amad Fernandes
Hojlund
​
If everyone was fully fit I'd go with that but to be honest, the days of Shaw being fully fit/able to play as a wing back are likely behind him. I reckon his best role now is at LCB but we'll need to sign somebody else to play LWB, otherwise we could be scrambling around with someone like Antony there.
 
Hughes35 said:
For me, I believe our best team with everybody fit will be:

------------------------------------Onana---------------------------
--------------De Light------------Yoro-----------Martinez------------
Dalot-----------Mainoo---------------Ugarte---------------------Shaw
----------------------Bruno-------------------Garnacho------------------------
----------------------------------Hojlund-----------------------------------


Really hard to leave Mazz out, I think with everybody fully fit, it would actually be Martinez who loses out with Shaw going to LCB and Mazz going to wing back.

I found it really hard to pick between Mount and Garnacho too as I actually think Mount could be great as one of the 10's but Garnacho is out most explosive player.

A lot of it really does depend on fitness and form.
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No amad = not the best team
 
AndyMUFC said:
Onana
Yoro-- De Ligt --Martinez
Amad - Mainoo--Ugarte- Mazraoui
Bruno - Mount
Hojlund

The technical floor of this team would be so much higher than what we saw yesterday for example.
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I like this as long as Amad develops into the role and can be more of an attacking threat. Otherwise he’s wasted too much. I know he got the assist on Sunday but his overall heat map was too defensive. If he can play in the attacking way Amorim wants, then this works as it gives us that extra creative player in Mount rather than the extra defender in Shaw or Dalot.
 
stepic said:
I like this as long as Amad develops into the role and can be more of an attacking threat. Otherwise he’s wasted too much. I know he got the assist on Sunday but his overall heat map was too defensive. If he can play in the attacking way Amorim wants, then this works as it gives us that extra creative player in Mount rather than the extra defender in Shaw or Dalot.
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Garnacho has to be there somewhere .
Also height ? We will concede in corners ?
 
I would play:

Onana
Maz Yoro Martinez Shaw
Mainoo Ugarte
Amad Bruno Garnacho
Höjlund

Amorim will use Amad as RWB and Mazraoui as LWB in a 343.
 
Onana
Maz--De Ligt--Martinez
Amad--Ugarte--Casemiro--Shaw
Mainoo--Bruno
Hojlund
 
The_Midfielder said:
Garnacho has to be there somewhere .
Also height ? We will concede in corners ?
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Does he? If he can learn to play as a wingback then he will get more minutes. He can be a rotation option as one of the 10s but I don’t think it’s his best position.
 
Onana
Yoro-DeLigt-Licha
Maz-Mainoo-Ugarte-Shaw
Amad-Bruno
Højlund

Garnacho as subersub, either as a LWB or one of the CAMs.
 
Onana
Mazraoui De Ligt Martinez
Dalot Ugarte Mainoo Garnacho
Amad Bruno
Hojlund

Right now I’d like to see this given a go. Yoro and Shaw could easily come in either side of the back three, and I think Mount could get plenty of game time in the central areas and do well.

Beyond those players I’m not particularly enthusiastic about any of the others being a fit.
 
Onana
Yoro De Ligt Martinez
Mazraoui Ugarte Bruno Shaw
Amad Garnacho
Rashford
 
Onana
Yoro - De Ligt - Martinez/Shaw
Amad - Ugarte - Mainoo - Malacia
Bruno - Mount
Höjlund

I do absolutely love Maz, but I can't see where i would start him since i want Yoro in there and I prefer a left footer on lwb and I feel him instead of Amad would be to defensively, he would be the first sub for Yoro or either of the wing backs though. Im not fully against putting Amad where Mount is and having Maz play the rwb though, especially against some teams.
 
-------------Onana
-------Yoro-De Ligt-Martinez
Mazraoui-Ugarte-Mainoo-Shaw
-------------Amad--Bruno
------------------Hojlund
 
Hughes35 said:
I like Amad but I think he's getting a bit overhyped. Lets give him time to see how he develops.
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Amad technically has been brilliant since his Atalanta days he's a cut above our wingers, I think he's a clear starter.

Amad, Onana and Mazraoui are the automatic starts in my book this season. Garnacho too but his decision making can be questionable.
 
Insanity said:
Yeah, I am hoping that Ugarte can at least play the Kante lite role for us and will compliment some of the deficiencies in Mainoo's game, which are pace and power. Mainoo can control and move the ball up like no other player in our team, especially in midfield. I think both can combine to form a good midfield combination this season.

I hoping that Mount will get fit at some point as his pressing can be useful in that front three. Neither Rashford or Garnacho are very good at pressing; however they are the best we have got for that "width from the left side" you mention in your post. Bruno will play and provide the creativity unless we can find a better solution. His passing was more controlled in the last game, I am hoping his pressing will get better too under a better tactician in Amo.

Coming to the FB's, they are the two most important positions in this system. Unfortunately, I don't think we have a player who can really excel in that position. Ideally, we would require players in the ilk you mention who have pace, power and creativity to play there. The solution to that position is only going to come from the transfer window. Davis from Bayern would be a dream signing. Otherwise, Kekerz is the player I like from the ones I have seen. I don't know many RWB's besides Frimpong, who would be a good singing, imo.

For, now I think my line-up in the previous post is the best option. For next season, we'll have to get better FB's, a striker and midfielder if we have ambitions.

Something like this would be my preference for next season:

Onana
Maz Yoro Shaw
Frimpong Ederson Ugarte Davis
Amad Garnacho
Gyokeres/Sesko
​
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Davies and Frimpong on either side would be hilariously fun to watch. Just shredding teams with pace and dribbling from the touchline.
 
Dannn411 said:
IMO it is:
Onana
De Ligt, Martinez, Yoro
Mazraoui, Mainoo, Ugarte, Shaw
Amad, Hojlund, Mount/Bruno/Garnacho

Martinez down the middle because he's the slowest of the three main CBs and the outside CBs will be constantly having to face quicker players because they will be getting pulled wide regularly. Also Martinez is arguably the best player in the team on the ball and can step up into midfield comfortably from that central CB position with the ball if need be.

Mainoo for possession, Ugarte for legs in the middle. Maz and Shaw at WB needs no explanation.
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I guess not in the sense we are talking about mythically fit players here - but in practice you are talking about two of the least naturally-fit players in the squad playing arguably the most physically demanding positions. No way this would work long-term, and although it was the first game probably confirmed by the fact both played as outside CB's instead.
 
Onana
Yoro Maguire Shaw
Amad Ugarte Mainoo Mazraoui
Mount Fernandes
Hojlund​
 
We need pace at the back, especially with the rcb and lcb and it's clear this is amorim's thinking with him putting maz as rcb, I don't think amorim is going with martinez when he has shaw available.


__________onana
______Maz__yoro_shaw
Amad_ugarte_bruno_malacia
_______mount_garnacho
__________hojlund

I'm basing this of what I think amorim would want when everyone is match fit.
 
__________onana
______Kukoni__yoro_shaw
Maz _ugarte_Mainoo_Amad
_______mount_Bruno
__________hojlund
 
Lee565 said:
We need pace at the back, especially with the rcb and lcb and it's clear this is amorim's thinking with him putting maz as rcb, I don't think amorim is going with martinez when he has shaw available.


__________onana
______Maz__yoro_shaw
Amad_ugarte_bruno_malacia
_______mount_garnacho
__________hojlund

I'm basing this of what I think amorim would want when everyone is match fit.
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Lee565 said:
We need pace at the back, especially with the rcb and lcb and it's clear this is amorim's thinking with him putting maz as rcb, I don't think amorim is going with martinez when he has shaw available.


__________onana
______Maz__yoro_shaw
Amad_ugarte_bruno_malacia
_______mount_garnacho
__________hojlund

I'm basing this of what I think amorim would want when everyone is match fit.
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Mount can't be a starter if it means leaving Mainoo on the bench. There is no scenario in which Mount offers more to the team than Mainoo. We certainly aren't talented or technical enough to leave Mainoo on the bench.

Bruno can work as the 8 against weaker comp if we dominate possession. He will get found out defensively against better comp. Bruno is one of our better goal scorers, he needs to play closer to goal. We can't afford to lose his goal scoring.
 
So many people putting Shaw at LWB and, well, I'm not confident that he can do that position with his injury struggles. His future at the club is as a centre back I feel. I'm certain we'll get a new Left back/wing back in the summer.
 
Garnacho is so wasteful. His decision making is awful but what else is there? Rashford looks like he just wants to get away. I dunno what to put up front. I think Hojlund will come good under Amorim
 
If everyone was fit and available, I think the strongest line up in a 3-4-3 is as below:

Onana

Yoro
MDL
Martinez

Maz
Ugarte
Mainoo
Shaw

Amad
Bruno

Hojlund

I'd drop Dalot, he's been rubbish this season and he's not going to do anything at LWB.

Conventional wisdom is that Shaw wouldn't be able to physically cope playing at LWB but I'd like to see it for myself before making a judgement, because the position is made for a fully fit Shaw (admittedly a rare sighting).

I'm sorry, Amad is wasted at RWB. If our front 3 were firing on all cylinders and scoring goals for fun, then it wouldn't be that big an issue. But at the moment he's our best attacker, we need him as close to the goal as possible! Mazraoui can play there if Yoro comes in RCB.

Can't find a place for Garnacho in the starting line up with this formation. He's still better as an impact player off the bench, but now he'd be coming on as a 10 rather than a winger, so is even his impact off the bench going to suffer?

Hojlund starts ahead of Rashford at CF but it remains to be seen if he can fulfil his potential. I still think we need an experienced CF to come in in Jan if possible if only to take some of the burden from Rasmus. I'd honestly sell Rashford in Jan if we could. His heart doesn't look in it anymore and there's no obvious place for him in Amorim’s system.

Strong bench options with Mount, Casemiro, Dalot, Garnacho, Eriksen.

Would like to see him try this line up and see how it goes!
 
Changing my mind after the Everton game

—————-onana———————

——de light -Yoro—-mazroui-

amad—ugarte—Casemiro-garnacho-

————zirkzee——Bruno———-

—————-hojlund——————
 
..........................Onana.......................

Mazaroui----------MDL--------------Licha

Amad.......Ugarte......Mainoo....Shaw

Bruno........Hojlund..........Garnacho


Few positions which could have gone many ways

For RCB Yoro might be the one but with how Maza played, it wont make sense not to play him. Maza can be pushed to RWB and Amad to attacking position but Amad as RWB is playing awesome, making runs from deeper position which is giving him bit of a time and always playing facing the goal. Dont want to change much there.

Shaw might not have legs to play wing back role but Dalot has been mixed bag with some good moments and many poor moments.

Hojlund as a CF instead of Rashford because of intensity and how well he presses. Rashford has scored 3 goals in 2 PL games but the way Hojlund works off the ball might help the team.

Same with Garnacho and Rashford. Garnacho's work rate and consistent off the ball movement helps team better.
 
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