The Mirror says the fee has been agreed(his buyout). It will be completed after the World Cup. I'll believe it when it happens.
William Carvalho
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£37m yeah right.
Transfer rumours are shit at the best of times, but transfer rumours from Portugal are so shit that I pretty much just assume the opposite is true.
Which means that Carvalho has come to watch David Moyes manage 12 times, or something.
Which means that Carvalho has come to watch David Moyes manage 12 times, or something.
So if the reported deal from The Mirror is true, Carvalho will equal our record signing. I haven't seen him before admittedly, so can someone offer clarification on him? That's a lot of money to part with, even if a central midfielder is the most pressing matter.
I can't believe we would pay the buyout especially with Sporting's recent financial issues.
Didn't Fernandinho of Man City go for £35m? He(Fernandinho) has been very effective for City and having watched William Carvalho for awhile, I can say that he will be as productive for United especially with Carrick entering the end years of his career. Sometimes you will have to pay top amount to land talented players and it is no suprise we would want to wrap this deal up before any other parties become involved.
Hopefully, this rumor does come to fruition as we need more quality depth in our central midfield area.
Hopefully, this rumor does come to fruition as we need more quality depth in our central midfield area.
The rumour is that his agent was shown around Carrington. Isn't his agent Mendes? Why would he need showing around?
It seemed mostly English clubs that bought into the concept at buying and selling players with potential for huge fees - let alone players who have already established themselves in world football - but it's a more common theme across Europe now.
I don't have a problem with us spending that sort of money for him, even though I don't think it is the correct fee we would/will pay. Top bracket players or players who have the talent to reach that level come at a premium. Other elite clubs conformed to that years ago and we have been guilty of not doing the utmost to sign certain players, whether that's due to transfer fees, wages or agent fees, so it's about time we did.
That's modern football and it takes the shrewdest of managers to compete at the top level without conforming to that. If he has years of service at the club and becomes a quality, established midfielder then that fee would invariably be worth it in this day and age.
I don't have a problem with us spending that sort of money for him, even though I don't think it is the correct fee we would/will pay. Top bracket players or players who have the talent to reach that level come at a premium. Other elite clubs conformed to that years ago and we have been guilty of not doing the utmost to sign certain players, whether that's due to transfer fees, wages or agent fees, so it's about time we did.
That's modern football and it takes the shrewdest of managers to compete at the top level without conforming to that. If he has years of service at the club and becomes a quality, established midfielder then that fee would invariably be worth it in this day and age.
This time last year the likes of the mirror were telling us that we had deals in place for Ronaldo and Bale so i'll take the article with a pinch of salt..it is Sunday already by the way which is official transfer BS day in the tabloids
Not to mention Gaitan and Garay. Portuguese sources love to name drop United for some reason.
In hindsight we probably would have ended up with Garay and Matic had Fergie stayed another year and that would have been very nice...hindsight is a wonderful thing though
Thing is for what we buy Carvalho for, it's worth the fee, he's 22, he has a bright future ahead of him as a CDM, and in that position... he can go on for 9-10 years... the fee is NOTHING, look at Ferdinand for example the career he had at United.
He can pass too, he can intercept, and reads the game so well... look at today with Caroll we had to defend against him he was a threat, yet Carvalho would eat that up all game, he's the kind of player United need to sure things up in-front of the back four, giving creative players license and assurance to go forward.
Carvalho is a MUST buy this summer, it's not even a question.
Apparently Real and City are interested too so it may turn out to be a case that we were never even in the running to get him despite what the tabloids are saying....
Real Madrid don't need that, they are extending Khediras contract and have players like Illarramendi too, City need a top defender, and already have Fernandinho, City will splash cash at Mangala this summer, I don't see Carvalho happening there.
Teams like City and Real will wait after the world cup I feel, especially Real Madrid, I think Carvalho would have already put pen to paper by that stage, and I don't think they want that kind of player when they already have 2-3 capable and young in that position.
He will join some other team and then the posters will ask 'how do you know we were really even interested?' in denial, and idiotically ask others for 'proof' that we were after him.
Well, hopefully that story isn't told this year.
Well, hopefully that story isn't told this year.
Carvalho said in a post-match interview on moving from sporting, and supposed interest he said: "it could be Manchester United, it could be Real Madrid."
Probably show Mendes his new VIP suite at Carrington.
What - half of Europe are after this guy for Christ sake & you wanna get him on the cheap?!
I couldnt give a shite how much we pay for CM's or any other players for that matter - its not my money or yours!
We pay the buy-out clause & dont have to negotiate with the club over a fee, or get into an auction with the top teams in Europe more importantly.
If we get this guy - we'll be a different animal already, nevermind the other players that'll follow...
The deals in place were the packages being offered to Real & Spuds and contract offers to Ronnie & Bale, but said players didnt want to come in the end. I thought this was all cleared up?!
spot on. Story building at its best
Manchester United William Carvalho deal: Fee of £37million agreed - move to take place after World Cup
Manchester United have wrapped up the signing of Sporting Lisbon star William Carvalho, and Toni Kroos is NEXT on the list
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Done deal: Carvalho WILL move to United this summer
William Carvalho is set to become Manchester United’s first big summer signing, writes Steve Bates of the Sunday People.
The Sporting Lisbon defensive midfielder’s agent was given a tour of the club’s Carrington training ground last week and Portuguese international Carvalho will sign for United for £37million before the World Cup finals in Brazil.
United boss David Moyes is also confident he can land Bayern Munich midfielder Toni Kroos, who is keen to move to Old Trafford even though United will miss out on Champions League football next season.
United’s executive vice-chairman Ed Woodward has been working hard to put deals in place and Sporting’s highly-rated youngster Carvalho looks like being the first of at least FIVE major signings.
Click here: William Carvalho scouting report - why the midfielder is destined to be world class
The Angolan-born 21-year-old has a £37m release clause in his contract which United are prepared to trigger before the World Cup begins on June 12.
A host of top clubs are keen on Carvalho – including Chelsea – and having missed out on targets like Barcelona’s Cesc Fabregas and Athletic Bilbao’s Ander Herrera last summer Woodward and Moyes have vowed not to be caught out again this year.
Moyes will also offer Southampton £26m for England left-back Luke Shaw (above) and is targeting Real Madrid star Fabio Coentrao.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footb...d-william-carvalho-deal-3273687#ixzz2wlivD8g9
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Well glad that's sorted.
Only the Mirror and it's sister paper The People are going overboard with this rumor at the moment.But i do hope that we get all our business done before the world cup.
Never heard of this player before, what's he like?
We all desperately want to believe he's a young Toure.
What - half of Europe are after this guy for Christ sake & you wanna get him on the cheap?!
I couldnt give a shite how much we pay for CM's or any other players for that matter - its not my money or yours!
We pay the buy-out clause & dont have to negotiate with the club over a fee, or get into an auction with the top teams in Europe more importantly.
If we get this guy - we'll be a different animal already, nevermind the other players that'll follow...
Half of Europe scouting a player doesn't mean they are actually going to bid so I suspect any talk of paying the actual full clause is just paper talk.
As for you not giving a shite about the fee, neither do I, I was just expressing scepticism at reports of having to pay 37mil for a player who hasn't proven anything outside of Portugal as that doesn't sound logical given Sporting's finances.
In short you need to calm down and take a Xanax or something you appear to have gotten very excited about somebody simply expressing doubt about the actual fee paid, the quality of the player isn't in doubt I just think its unlikely that any club would have to pay the release to get him.
Partner Fellaini up with this guy, and we'd have a wall in the midfield. Plus both aren't inept with the ball too so we wouldn't be losing any points from technical abilities.
We could play with midgets ahead of them like Mata and Kagawa constantly without the fear of being over-powered. Cityizing our formation maybe?
We could play with midgets ahead of them like Mata and Kagawa constantly without the fear of being over-powered. Cityizing our formation maybe?
Not enough mobility in midfield.
I'd say it would have just as much of mobility as Toure-Fernandinho, or Matic-Ramires.
What? Fernadinho's fairly quick and Toure takes a while to stretch his legs but he's very fast once he does.
Fellaini and Carvalho are both slow football players. You can't play two pedestrians in midfield against good sides who keep the ball and make you chase it, you need energy unless you're going to play Guardiola football which we aren't.
Felliani didn't look slow yesterday when he was bursting from midfield into the box on in the 90th minute.
I realise you're the most biased poster on the Caf but you can't seriously think Fellaini is anything but a slow player?
I certainly don't think he's massively slow no.
Have we decided this Carvalho guy is slow? When was that agreed?
Re Fellaini, as someone pointed out he used to win 10k races. He gets around the pitch fine. Those long legs eat up the ground. Might not be quick in a sprint but can we stop the crap about him being "immobile"?
Re Fellaini, as someone pointed out he used to win 10k races. He gets around the pitch fine. Those long legs eat up the ground. Might not be quick in a sprint but can we stop the crap about him being "immobile"?
Where has it come from? I have no idea why people could think that.
When you watch him play.
What on earth does a 10k have to do with being fast on a football pitch? Stamina and pace are completely different abilities.
Midfield pace is about being quick over 10-20 yards, so you can close down opponents and stop counter attacks. Fellaini is slow over this kind of distance.
It's a though people can only remember the last game we played. Did you forget last week when we lost 3-0 to Liverpool and Fellaini couldn't get near Allen and Henderson because of his lack of mobility?
Really? Weren't you implying Toure's lack of acceleration isn't an issue, just a few posts higher up this page?
Re 10k races. They're about more than just stamina. You seem to be confusing them with a marathon, or some fat bloke doing a fun run. Competitive runners at that sort of distance are quick.
It is an issue, but Fernandinho covers up Toure lack of mobility and stamina by doing all the donkey work for him.
And it's a massive issue for City against teams who keep the ball (see their performances vs Bayern and Barcelona).
Game, set, match.
You only have to look at the difference between City last and this season to understand why Carvalho/Fellaini, Carrick/Fellaini or any midfield combo with no pace is a bad idea. Last season City went with the glacially slow Javi Garcia and Toure and constantly got overrun in midfield, sides could play straight through them and they never won the ball back. This season they've got Fernandinho who's much quicker along the ground and Toure looks a far better player while the entire team is working as it should.
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