Wilfried Zaha

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@Nate Dogg - There is not one comment regarding Zaha - Don't see why you reposted it in here from the press conferences thread, it's not related to Zaha as SAF has said that plenty of times and done something, does anyone know if any journos/reporters dared to actually ask SAF to comment on the rumours?
 
Again, he creates more goal scoring opportunities than the players that you have compared him to, he can't be that stupid or selfish.

You only need to watch him to see he's stupid and selfish, the shots-per-goal stuff just confirms it. He creates so much because he's given so much licence to do his own thing - if you take away his licence to shoot and do fancy tricks then you lose his creative side too.
 
if you take away his licence to shoot and do fancy tricks then you lose his creative side too.

That just isn't true.

He can become a more economical and effective player, he doesn't need to be profligate with his shooting to retain his creative attributes.

I agree that he is too greedy and self indulgent at the moment, but we don't know if Harry and Sparky have encouraged him to shoot on sight, considering the rest of the team have contributed the square root of feck all to QPR's attack this season.
 
It was just a copy + paste job from the Michu thread which was originally used to show how clinical he was in comparison to the rest of the top 8 scorers and I just threw Taraabt in there at the end. I figured Taraabt's ludicrous record of 6% said it all. He's a stupid and selfish player, that's the only point I was making and I think it's perfectly clear. He's being compared to strikers because he shoots as much as a striker. Suárez, Ba, Defoe, Bale and van Persie - they're the only ones to have more shots than Taraabt this season. If you want to compare him to others in his position you have:

Cazorla - 7 goals from 62 shots; 11%
Fellaini - 8 goals from 52 shots; 15%
Mata - 7 goals from 45 shots; 15%
Nolan - 5 goals from 47 shots; 11%
Ruiz - 3 goals from 25 shots; 12%
Weimann - 4 goals from 29 shots; 14%

Closest to him are Gaston Ramirez and Ben Arfa but they've both had half as many shots and they still have better ratios. I think Balotelli's the only one to average over 2 shots a game with a worse ratio than Taarabt - just the one goal from 34 shots this season.
Arsenal, Everton and Chelsea enable the players you've listed - their workload lessens and responsibility is shared, as you would expect in superior teams.

West Ham have shown themselves to be a far better team than QPR, also.

We're then left with Ruiz and Weimann at Fulham and Villa respectively. Do you think those two have as much weight on their shoulders to turn games in their teams' favour as Taraabt? If the answer is no, then do you think you would see their shooting attempts increase exponentially if this was the case?

There is absolutely no denying that Taraabt takes on some ridiculous shots, but at the same time, he is probably the most pressurized player in relation to his own team to dig them out on a game-by-game basis. He comes across to me as someone who does what he does in order to aid his team rather than to further his own personal ambitions.
You only need to watch him to see he's stupid and selfish, the shots-per-goal stuff just confirms it. He creates so much because he's given so much licence to do his own thing - if you take away his licence to shoot and do fancy tricks then you lose his creative side too.
I think you're stating a distinct dislike for the player, which is unlike you as you're usually objective.

Immature? Certainly. But stupid and selfish aren't words I'd associate with Taraabt. He plays others in with a frequency not associated with genuinely selfish players and it seems to me that at QPR he does a lot of naive and speculative things because he's aware the onus is on him to save them most of the time. I'd say that immaturity in his development is manifest in how he plays the game, he isn't inherently stupid as a player and if caught early enough, a better manager and stronger coaching set-up should see a lot of his ill-advised play ironed out of his game.

If he's still playing as he does now at 26+ and has managed to get on to a better team, then your criticisms will be fair, imo.
 
Saf playing it down,but i believe a deal will be made this window for him, for the summer.
 
@Nate Dogg - There is not one comment regarding Zaha - Don't see why you reposted it in here from the press conferences thread, it's not related to Zaha as SAF has said that plenty of times and done something, does anyone know if any journos/reporters dared to actually ask SAF to comment on the rumours?

Although it doesn't mention Zaha specifically but to some degree it is obvious that SAF is responding to the recent Zaha rumours.

So it is relevant to this post...read between the lines bro!!!
 
Might be my son winding me up but he says Zaha has tweeted that he is going to the top of the premier league.
 
Might be my son winding me up but he says Zaha has tweeted that he is going to the top of the premier league.

He tweeted it and deleted it seconds later apparently, someone caught it though.

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I'll be pessimistic here and say that's probably photoshopped. Why? Because the L in "Looks" isn't perfectly in line with the "W" above it. It's slightly aligned to the right.

If it's legit though, then I don't care if I have egg on my face.
 
I'll be pessimistic here and say that's probably photoshopped. Why? Because the L in "Looks" isn't perfectly in line with the "W" above it. It's slightly aligned to the right.

If it's legit though, then I don't care if I have egg on my face.

I agree with you. Photoshopped.
 
If Phelan was in fact there, then it's obviously a huge indication that we are definitely interested (unless of course there's a player at Burnely/Crystal Palace we were looking at). Still, so many trolls around these days that I'd want a photo of Phelan at Burnley for me to actually believe it.
 
If Phelan was in fact there, then it's obviously a huge indication that we are definitely interested (unless of course there's a player at Burnely/Crystal Palace we were looking at). Still, so many trolls around these days that I'd want a photo of Phelan at Burnley for me to actually believe it.

Here ya go,

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Phelan's presence is a big clue, I'd say. Unless he's a closet Burnley supporter.

Haha he could be. Pretty sure he was spotted at one of their games earlier this season too. IIRC some people were tweeting about it.

Seems strange if this is true, that Phelan was at this game and Sir Alex at the Peterborough game. And unless Phelan is our negotiator, if we have already made our move as papers would have us believe then still scouting him seems strange.
 
I'll be pessimistic here and say that's probably photoshopped. Why? Because the L in "Looks" isn't perfectly in line with the "W" above it. It's slightly aligned to the right.

If it's legit though, then I don't care if I have egg on my face.

I think you're right too. Why would someone print screen the tweet when they could have retweeted it?
 
I think you're right too. Why would someone print screen the tweet when they could have retweeted it?

They might have tried to retweet it but had an error message that the tweet does not exist, realised what had happened and clicked back to it while it was still in their browser history and print screened it for proof.
 
Which wouldn't be that strange as he started his career at Burnley and played close to 170 matches for them :)

Yeah, not only that but he is from Nelson, a shade north of Burnley, it is highly likely that he is a Burnley fan.
 
Sunday Supplement talking about Zaha after the break.

Pretty much said he's got talent but since the recent speculation about his future he's not been putting in the performances. Second time by multiple Journalists now on Sunday Supplement that have doubts over him.
 
Yes ofcourse. :)

I dont see why we need him though if Nani's staying. SAF knows better though so i'd trust him.
 
BBC's gossip page: Full story: Metro

Crystal Palace winger Wilfried Zaha, 20, increases speculation he is signing for Manchester United by tweeting: "Looks like I'm on my way to the top of the Premier League." He later removed the Tweet.
 
BBC's gossip page: Full story: Metro

Crystal Palace winger Wilfried Zaha, 20, increases speculation he is signing for Manchester United by tweeting: "Looks like I'm on my way to the top of the Premier League." He later removed the Tweet.

I'm not sure which is worse, but either The Metro don't fully research and and write anything they see on twitter, or they know Zaha has confirmed this as bull and still print just to get an article out there.
 
BBC's gossip page: Full story: Metro

Crystal Palace winger Wilfried Zaha, 20, increases speculation he is signing for Manchester United by tweeting: "Looks like I'm on my way to the top of the Premier League." He later removed the Tweet.

Good way to run a news without evidence.
 
Hardly the most convincing excuse, is it? 'I don't remember tweeting it. I don't know where that came from.'
 
Hardly the most convincing excuse, is it? 'I don't remember tweeting it. I don't know where that came from.'

that was my immediate thought as well. I thought it was fake - but if it was fake - wouldn't be it be more logical to deny it a totally different way like "sorry guys - I did not right that comment"
 
Maybe 2000 Palace fans stopped following him after that tweet :)
 
The tweet was a fake

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Would it not make sense that he added a couple of thousand followers (possibly Utd fans) in a couple of hours if he'd just suggested he was joining us?
 
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