All makes sense now, we're not playing him to save £5M, which we wasted on overpaying for Fellani...
Wilfried Zaha - Sold to Crystal Palace
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All makes sense now, we're not playing him to save £5M, which we wasted on overpaying for Fellani...
That's not a bad theory...
One of Sir Alex's biggest strengths was his ability to keep a large squad happy. Moyes probably isnt going to manage the same thing
Fergie had the foresight and generosity to buy Moyes the new Porsche Zaha as a welcoming present, yet he'd rather leave it in the garage so drive around in a Ford Valencia with busted steering instead.
Zaha's hardly a Porsche to be honest.
It is a new concept model.
Some sort of a value brand destined for people who cannot really afford a Porsche?
True. He also had the benefit of actually buying the players thereby demonstrating some faith in their ability. In contrast, Moyes manages to give the impression that he rates Rooney, Van Persie, Januzaj and Giggs while most of the rest are, at best, only playing until he can bring in superior replacements.
On Zaha, I suspect he will be loaned out at the very end of the month after the Cardiff match by which time Young and/or Nani may be fit. Moyes is probably just being extra cautious in case we are short of players for the LC match against Sunderland. It is clear the only way Zaha gets playing time for us is if every other option is unavailable.
How's Zaha looked for the reserves? I have heard from a few that he has not been that good. If that is the case, would that be the most likely reason for his lack of first team playing time or at least a big part of it?
Let's loan him to Wigan to play with Powell. Or send him back to Palace for the rest of the season.
And yet save for one possible substitution that never was, he has gone unused whilst those same players have been injured.
Neither are expected to be absent for months on end, so do they return in the first week of Feb and Zaha is back in the wilderness?
Neither are expected to be absent for months on end, so do they return in the first week of Feb and Zaha is back in the wilderness?
Really don't get Moyes on this one, seems he rather have Zaha on the bench in case that one of Valencia, Januzaj or Kagawa would get injurred than seeing him get some valuable playing experience elsewhere.
I hope if he doesn't loan him out that he'll atleast give him a fair chance in some games to prove himself. Not playing him at all, not even in the small games has just been unacceptable, continuing on that line is a good way to destroy his confidence and further infuriate him. The guy must be hating Moyes as a manager and is probably already regretting his transfer.
Disgraceful if I'm honest...The guy should have got a few chances at the very least.
He's a very good player, who proved it last year. We gave Januzaj a chance to flourish, we should to with Zaha.
He's a very good player, who proved it last year. We gave Januzaj a chance to flourish, we should to with Zaha.
Quite, and all in a matter of six months when his future at United could otherwise last many years. Had SAF remained at the club Zaha would probably have an outside bet of going to Brazil, whereas with things as they are now there's more chance of Stewart Downing pitching up on the plane.
If these rumours concerning Moyes' opinion of the lad in training are accurate then the manager is arguably culpable, for he has had plenty of time to solve the any problem and one which the player didn't arrive with either [so far as we are aware].
He was probably in line for a loan as soon as he was purchased. I suspect that Moyes simply wanted a chance to evaluate him, as well as the rest of the squad, for a while before making such decisions. If possible, I think Moyes would have loaned him out months ago, but he obviously had to wait for the window.
Can't really blame him if he did storm off. Moyes continually leaves him out of the team to let the enthralling duo of Young and Valencia play.How can people blame Moyes? Which manager in their right mind would ship a player out on loan when injuries makes us light in that exact department. Zaha should pipe down and remember that he's barely into his 2nd half of a season as a Premier League-footballer, and shouldnt storm off because he's not being played.
If Ashley Young were getting starts over me, I would be upset and I'm awful at football.
I agree, if we are light in that department he should see it as an oppurtunity to break through but realistically has had any meaningful game time since the Community Shield? We have had FA Cup's, League Cup's, dead rubber CL games and injuries and he hasn't seen more than about 15 minutes in 6 months.
Well, I guess that is why neither you nor Wilf is playing any games in the PL these days.
Did a certain Pogba not get left on the bench while Rafael, Park etc played CM? I appreciate it's not quite the same, but come the end of the season, if I were Zaha and it hasn't changed, Moyes keeping faith with Young and Val, I'd definitely have to have a think. I also don't think it's anything down to the clauses etc
If you're in your first season as a Premier League player (a Manchester United-player at that) as a 20-year old and you have to "have a think" after a single season, you might not be cut out for a big club anyway.
So the player should be happy that the manager continues with two players who offer nothing of value rather than giving him a chance? After seeing what Januzaj has done, there's no reason Zaha shouldn't be getting a chance yet he never even makes the bench. I could see blind faith in Fergie, who made a number of mistakes with youngsters, but Moyes? He hasn't shown anything to warrant that. Just because he's the manager doesn't mean he's beyond reproach.
I'm not quite sure I get your point. Moyes has been able to handle plenty of youngsters during his time as a manager and I'm sure that he's more then capable of handling a youngster with an ego. I've been hoping to see Zaha alot more than we've had so far this season, but with all these reports of him throwing a tantrum, or being a whiney bitch, I would rather see proper pros like Valencia and Young regain abit of form.
or you might be so sure of your abilities you aren't willing to wait and clearly have the talent already, see Pogba, hence why I mentioned him as an example
Then you should probably be professional about it and work your ass off at the training ground. I have no idea how he's doing at training, but United is known to test their youngsters mentality by giving them a hard time to see how they respond. Some rise to the challenge, whilst others turn into little girls.
Really need to loan him ASAP. Season is a throw away and he is barely going to get game time. Surely in the best interest of the club it will be better if he can pl experience for the next 4 months.
If I was a winger at United and had to watch Young and Valencia constantly get picked ahead of me, I'd probably just give up and retire.
Spot on. If even half of the rumors about him are true, he isn't mentally ready for a big club.
Zaha should be allowed to be pissed off. He should probably be starting games, never mind being brought on as a sub.
To be fair, there's nothing to say that he isn't? Not sure what your point is..
I'm presuming you didn't mean for that sound to like the reason he isn't getting game time is because of the fact some don't rise to the occassion, especially as the beginning of the sentance you started by saying you have no idea how he's doing at training. I don't blindly trust the manager and insist 'if someone's good enough, they'll be played', clearly it's not the case every time and there are circumstances where this does not happen, I believe this to be one. Unless it's madness to you to suggest that Zaha could match/better the worst performance of either Young/Valencia this season??
Zaharias can't play but shit on a stick Valencia can.
Figure that out
Figure that out
Will surely be given a start on Wednesday. If not, what's the point?
feckin' pointless signing.
Doubt it, If we had won the first leg he might have got some minutes.
We're doing a Chelsea with Zaha, we can't become that club. We either loan him out or give him a chance.
Even if he did play on Wednesday, given Moyes' lack of use of all season he will be too rusty to have an impact.
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