It's a pleasant change from Valencia's stick to the line policy anyway...
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It's a pleasant change from Valencia's stick to the line policy anyway...
He was very involved in all that lovely intricate passing on the edge of their box, along with Lingard, Januzaj and Cleverley. His involvement in the build-up to Januzaj's post-hitting effort is a good example.
Wilted physically, at the game off the ball you could see him fatigued drifting around.
From looking at him on the pitch, you certainly wouldn't expect him to be as shy as he is off it. Excited to see what he has to offer this season, looks a real talent.
I love the bit at the end where Januzaj's pass is so good, Zaha initially decides he doesn't believe it exists, and ignores it.
As posts go this is a bit shit.
Not mine.
Good video. Thanks for posting it.
Carrick FellaniZaha Kagawa WelbeckRVP
That actually look fantastic, with two tricky and powerful wingers/forwards on the sides; who both also comfortable with the ball and keeping possession. RvP or Kagawa can drop deep, if Fellaini needs to be more advance. There won't be lack of goals if everyone firing all cylinders.
To be honest I think he already looks better than Valencia and Young for sure. He is strong, fast, skillful, good eye for pass, he is like combining Nani (skillful), Valencia (strong and fast) and Young (teamwork) into one. He should be one of our first name in team sheet next season. Exciting times ahead!
Let's not carried away. He looks an immensely talented player but he is still very young and this will be his season in the top flight. Let's not discard proven performers because Zaha put in a good show last night. I am sure Moyes will give him plenty time to ease into the first team and not put too much pressure on him.
Well he is. I mean, its not like Valencia, Nani and Young were having a good season too. Nani looks like he will leaving us in the summer, I hope we are not going to rely on the Valencia and Young of last season too much, or lets just see if the Zaha signing would give them more competition and force them to improve on their prolong shite form.
Good skills for sure. His timing of passess are off a bit that will come with familiarity & decision -making-- but I wonder if he would have benefitted a lot more from Rene staying.
it would be great if he and (the good) nani could be on the pitch at the same time.
That would mean good nani playing on the left and Nani's not so good there.
come on now...the good nani was/is pretty good from the left side but yes i like him better on the right too.
If our wingers don't improve from last season he will have no trouble getting loads of playing time.
Exciting player who has a ton of potential, I can see him getting plenty of chances in the first team this season.
Is this myth still perpetuating?
How many big games has he played for us from the right?
He was our player of the year a couple years back playing predominantly from the left.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...low-Wilfried-Zaha-out-on-loan-in-January.html
There don't appear to be any quotes that suggest Moyes wants to send Zaha out on loan in January. At this stage, I hope we don't send him out on loan at all and keep him at the club. Also, it's great to see Giggs sort of taking Zaha under his wing, could not be learning from a better professional about what it takes to become a first teamer week-in, week-out at United.
Well if the wingers are anything like last season he will probably be starting every week, not a chance Valencia can afford another year ln bad form without Zaha being given a run in the team.
'Let's not get carried away' is fast becoming the most irritating phrase on the Caf. Why the feck not? Who does it hurt if a bunch of caftards are thinking positively about our team for once?
Let's not get carried away is not the same as saying let's not be positive/excited. It's saying let's not start placing huge expectations on players so that when they inevitably don't live up to them they won't be seen as a failure and there won't be a wave of disappointment. A bit like how people talked about Kagawa as the second coming and now he's seen as a disappointment by many.
Unless Nani is staying, I can't see why we'd loan him out. I don't trust other clubs to bring along our players anyway, after recent loan spells.
I don't think it is getting carried away to exclaim how naturally talented he is. As a well rounded intelligent footballer, he has plenty to improve, but in terms of natural talent and skill, he's certainly already in the upper tier, I believe. Athleticism, ball control, the ability to use two feet; all very exciting. But a "football brain" isn't something that all players possess, so hopefully he will develop a lot better than a lot of other tricky, nippy wingers who have fallen foul to lacking the mental aspect of the game. Already at Palace and in our pre-season games, he seems to know when to pass and when to have a go, often picking good passes in tight areas which is positive. There's a lot of hyped players in recent times who solely had pace and trickery at his age, but already Zaha has shown he has a bit more about him.
There was another article I read which made slightly more sense. All it said was that if Zaha doesn't get enough game time from now till Christmas, that it'd be beneficial to send him out on loan. Still didn't have any quotes that suggested he wanted to send him out on loan so it is speculation.
Anyone who is currently disappointed with Kagawa is simply an idiot, regardless of their expectations. As for huge expectations... I just don't see the problem there. The players don't read the car. If people want to build expectations about a player, in the knowledge that they might be disappointed if it doesn't work out, then why shouldn't they? It doesn't mean everyone else will have to share in their disappointment.
It's not about sharing in their disappointment it's about sharing in their excitement. When people talk about Januzaj being as good as some of the greatest players to play the game at his age then lots of people who haven't seen much of him will naturally get excited and think he's going to be a superstar. When that doesn't happen it causes mass disappointment. Whether that should or shouldn't happen or whether that makes them idiots is neither here nor there, it is what happens, so I just think it does more harm than good. It has nothing to do with stopping people from getting excited about our promising young players.
Who was he compared to?
No-one. Although that could be fun, which legend of the game is Januzaj most similar to...I think he's got a strange physique for the kind of player he is. I think he's the new Piet Kiezer.
It was a broad statement that to be fair. Januzaj is probably better than some of the greats were at his age but it means very little. They were just saying he's in a better position now than better players before him have been.
Brwned your constant talk about Januzaj and people's expectations of him are getting boring. Those of us who watch him regularly for the reserves have every right to be excited by him.
As was seen with Morrison, it takes more than just talent to make it here and Adnan has the exact right attitude and mentality to succeed. People (like me) really wanted Pogba to make it here, but when you saw him play for the reserves he played like a man who felt he was too good to be there. Adnan is the complete opposite, he plays with an aura about himself that not many youngsters (who I've seen play for us) have had. He's a leader on the field and he always wants to win and is always pushing to do so. (Not something you could have said about Pogba)
You can't teach those qualities, you just have to have them naturally. So when we've been waiting for a long time to see him play in the first team and see him translate his reserve level performances into first team level then we have every right to be excited by him. I haven't seen anyone compare him to a legend or place any high expectations on him, we just want to see how his first team development progresses and are excited to get to see it first hand.
Yeah I'll say it again, he's a special talent.
As was seen with Morrison, it takes more than just talent to make it here and Adnan has the exact right attitude and mentality to succeed. People (like me) really wanted Pogba to make it here, but when you saw him play for the reserves he played like a man who felt he was too good to be there. Adnan is the complete opposite, he plays with an aura about himself that not many youngsters (who I've seen play for us) have had. He's a leader on the field and he always wants to win and is always pushing to do so. (Not something you could have said about Pogba)
You can't teach those qualities, you just have to have them naturally. So when we've been waiting for a long time to see him play in the first team and see him translate his reserve level performances into first team level then we have every right to be excited by him. I haven't seen anyone compare him to a legend or place any high expectations on him, we just want to see how his first team development progresses and are excited to get to see it first hand.
Yeah I'll say it again, he's a special talent.
So saying his potential is limitless isn't getting carried away? Seriously?
I think Januzaj has loads of potential and will be a huge asset to us in the future, I can't wait to see how he develops and I'm delighted that we have these kind of players being developed in our youth team. I just think you and others are either getting carried away or throwing the word special around in a way that makes it lose meaning. If being reserve player of the year is proof of him being special then there are hundreds of special young players, which makes little sense in my mind.
Why does everyone get the point except Brwned? He's talking as if everyone else is stupid and will read too much into the praise for Januzaj, except he is the only one doing that.
I think deep down Brwned is annoyed that he wastes his life watching shitty matches trying to spot talent, whilst missing players under his own nose at United.
If I hadn't seen Januzaj play for myself and read your comments I'd think we have the next Zidane on our hands. It's ludicrous.
And that's why, you're so desperate to gush over this talent you've "spotted" that you're going completely overboard with your praise. Eventually Welbeck won't live up to your incredible predictions and then Januzaj will follow and you'll realise...hm, maybe I should stop talking a load of shit to let everyone know how I'm an expert talent spotter.
I haven't "missed" Januzaj. I read all this stuff the youth team watchers say about our young talents and I'll pop in and watch them every now and then. I really liked the look of Daehli too. And Pearson. I have no interest in being one of those people that can tell you who United's next big star is and talk in depth about our youth teams but I appreciate those who can and like hearing about the ones worth watching. I agree with everyone that these players are worth getting excited about and great to watch, and I've absolutely no doubt that if people think Januzaj is the standout then that's absolutely the case. I just think it either suggests a level of ignorance about other similar players in his age group outside of United and England or it's just people getting carried away with the superlatives. In your case it's obviously the latter.
I don't think we are getting carried away in the slightest. Have you heard any of us say that he's going to be a first team regular? Have you heard any of us say he's going to own the premier league? No, what you've heard of us talk about how great a talent he is.
You might want to compare him to players in other leagues, but then at the same time how can you compare him when you admit yourself you don't watch much reserves? You're more qualified to give a better opinion of some 24 year old in the Austrian league I'm sure, but no disrespect but I think we're more qualified to give a better judgement on Adnan considering we watch the reserves and know what he's capable of.
Again you're missing the point, it's not just about his talent but it's his attitude, mentality and maturity that sets him apart. When Pogba was playing in our reserves, he was playing half arsed and never tried to truly exert himself or own the game because he felt he deserved to be playing a higher level. Adnan doesn't rest on his laurels and gives 100% every game and produces pure quality.
No, winning reserve player of the year doesn't make him "special", but that's completely ignorant to suggest that you'll go find hundreds of special players. Januzaj was hampered with a bit of injury and missed a chunk of the u18s, yet he still managed to break his way into the u21s when he was 1-3 years younger than the rest of the team and still prove that he's the best player in the team, and by a long shot too.
Let's also not forget that he's had to play in various positions including up front. He went on a tournament with the u18s and I think he we the top scorer in the competition, he went away with an u20 team and I think he won player of the tournament.
There's many reasons why I think he's a special talent, and I don't think it's fair for you to just dismiss those claims when you don't watch him regularly yourself.
If I hadn't seen Januzaj play for myself and read your comments I'd think we have the next Zidane on our hands. It's ludicrous.
And that's why, you're so desperate to gush over this talent you've "spotted" that you're going completely overboard with your praise. Eventually Welbeck won't live up to your incredible predictions and then Januzaj will follow and you'll realise...hm, maybe I should stop talking a load of shit to let everyone know how I'm an expert talent spotter.
I haven't "missed" Januzaj. I read all this stuff the youth team watchers say about our young talents and I'll pop in and watch them every now and then. I really liked the look of Daehli too. And Pearson. I have no interest in being one of those people that can tell you who United's next big star is and talk in depth about our youth teams but I appreciate those who can and like hearing about the ones worth watching. I agree with everyone that these players are worth getting excited about and great to watch, and I've absolutely no doubt that if people think Januzaj is the standout then that's absolutely the case. I just think it either suggests a level of ignorance about other similar players in his age group outside of United and England or it's just people getting carried away with the superlatives. In your case it's obviously the latter.
I never claimed I'd spotted Januzaj, but you're still completely missing the point. My point was that Januzaj has such good ability that you can't sit there and say that he doesn't have what it takes to be top class. He's not limited by anything obvious from what I've seen. He may turn out to be the next Kaka or he might just reach the level of a Championship player. My point is that there's nothing to stop him going all the way.
It's amazing that you've seen him a handful of times but think you can come in and tell us we're all wrong and he's not special. Talk about delusions of grandeur. I'll trust Fergies assessments of him being a top talent over your bullshit.
I could have sworn I clicked into the Zaha thread, obviously not.
Completely unrelated, but what's up with Paddy kept pronoucing his name as Saha? Is it that difficult to pronounce ZAha, i mean?
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