That's an idiotic reply to be honest. Not deserving of my time, sorry.
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That's an idiotic reply to be honest. Not deserving of my time, sorry.
You've just given your time and replied? Lol
Manchester United don't have time for youngsters like Wilfried Zaha, says Crystal Palace boss Neil Warnock
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...tml?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...tml?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490
I guess Wilson, Blackett and Januzaj aren't youngsters.
Bellends like Warnock jumping on the bandwagon just doesn't surprise me. He hasn't got a clue in regards to what we do with our younger players. We've got more homegrown players in our first team squad than any other club in the country.
He's spot on though. We don't have time for youngsters with Zaha's attitude 
And it is clear that this does not work anymore. We must be the best at any given time, not spend our time developing as it will slow us down. Only success, immideatly will make it worthwhile, and Zaha has never been close to the standards. Not world class material at all!
His mooted attitude problems is obviously mitigating factor with respect to Zaha which we don't knwo fully about, but he does have a limited point with respect to Zaha and how he's been used (Or not used completely) since buying him for a good fee.
Was one of the bigger losers out of SAF's retirement along with few others.
Was one of the bigger losers out of SAF's retirement along with few others.
That's a great thing to say about a club that has loaned you a player. He's clearly still bitter about us losing to West Ham.
Yea, Januzaj who was playing same position as Zaha for us somehow managed to get into squad despite being younger than Zaha, Wilson made his debut despite being younger and now we're introducing Blackett who's been our best defender thus far, who's younger again.
Stupid cock should just shut his gob.
They aren't 'like' Zaha though.
De Gea, James, Jones, Smalling, Rafael, Blackett, Shaw, Januzaj and Wilson say hi Mr Warnock
Warnock is probably just trying to motivate Zaha, and build a good relationship with a view to a future permanent transfer.
He's probably right, though. United can't wait for youngsters with great talent who doesn't perform when they're given the chance. I thought Moyes were a prick last season when he didn't play Zaha until that rainy day 0-1 down home against Newcastle. Zaha were one of our top performers pre-season, and he didn't get game time before we read December on the calender. With the likes of Nani, Young, Valencia and even Giggs being sobad we all started thinking there were some truth in the rumors about Zaha and Moyes daughter..
Then Zaha went on loan to Cardiff, and the games he played for them, he showed nothing to prove Moyes wrong. I'm hoping Zaha will get his game back on at Palace, but for now I don't really see him having a future at United.
Then Zaha went on loan to Cardiff, and the games he played for them, he showed nothing to prove Moyes wrong. I'm hoping Zaha will get his game back on at Palace, but for now I don't really see him having a future at United.
He's technically correct. We don't have time for youngsters like Zaha.
The really good ones, though, are a different story...
The really good ones, though, are a different story...
Name a youngster besides Januzaj who is better than Zaha (u21, at United).
James Wilson, Tyler Blackett, Luke Shaw, Jesse Lingard.
Really think Wilson, Jesse and Blackett are better than Wilf? I reckon Wilson will be soon tho.
Lingard is ahead of Zaha in the pecking order.Not like they really play in the same position but Lingard clearly held in higher regard.
Wilson is ahead of Zaha as well and perhaps even Pereira.Zaha was kept on the bench vs. MK Dons while we could sub him in but LVG seems to have more trust in Pereira and Wilson.
Do we know anything about Zaha when it comes to premiership level? He has like 10 games in the league, Wilson and Blackett look good and probably with a future at United.
Yep, Zaha has the potential to be very good, but his last three managers just didn't rate him, they must see something they don't like.
Blackett and Lingard managed to break into our squad, even in Championship, if you compare Lingard to Zaha, Lingard was better in 13/14 season than Zaha was in 12/13 when we bought him and he was deemed big things. Not to mention that Lingard is our academy player.
Zaha could be our new Nani if we get him back. He'll do amazing trick for us one game - then play 8-10 matches were you wonder what his contribution to this team is...
Its not like they have had many premiership games.
Lingard broke into our squad? When? Zaha was one of the best players in the Championship, Lingard wasnt.
Isnt it because there is no place for Zaha in a 352 While there are places for Lingard, Pereira, Wilson?
He's started against Swans, who knows what would happen if not for his injury. He's as well played a lot of games in our tour and was our best player on tour last year too. It doesn't really matter if Zaha was 'one of the best players'. Lingard has got nearly the same statistics in Championship 13/14 season as Zaha. Difference is that Zaha needed a lot more time to get those goals and assists than Jesse and Zaha played for winners of Championship play-offs, while Lingard played for two different teams.
He's simply worse than Lingard.
Edit: thanks to OnlyTwoDaSilvas, forgot to put play-offs before winners of Championship
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Zaha didn't play for the winners of the Championship. Palace finished 5th. I don't see how that goes against Zaha anyway. The Championship in general is a very open and competitive league with no real consistency. Zaha was one of the key players in getting them into the playoffs.
Why doesn't it really matter if Zaha was one of the best players in the league? (Football league young player of the year 11/12, Football league team of the year 12/13). He was recognised for his ability and potential at that level, and it wasn't just based on goals and assists (which no footballer should be judged purely on anyway) but his overall play, which was impressive. I don't see why those accolades should just be disregarded.
Stats don't really paint the full picture for either player either. Zaha's performance levels dropped quite severely during the transfer window when big clubs were sniffing around him, though he gradually picked up as the season went on. A lot of players suffer on the pitch when their future is up in the air, though he did well to improve that towards the end of the season. Lingard scored 6 goals for Birmingham, though 4 of them came in one game - which is an excellent feat itself, even if it was against an embarrassingly poor Sheffield Wednesday side at the time. So like Zaha, he went a lot of games without goals.
Whenever I watched Zaha play for Palace, he seemed to carve out an impressive amount of chances, getting behind the defence, playing the right ball into the box, but unfortunately they didn't always result in goals, but stats obviously don't record that. I'm not doubting Lingard is a good player, but I don't think he has looked as dangerous as Zaha has overall.
Both are good players, but I don't see Lingard as the better player just now. Perhaps he might go on to be a better player, especially if the stuff about Zaha being a waster are true. Personally, I'd be surprised if either of them have long term futures at United, especially considering the attacking players we have now.
Why doesn't it really matter if Zaha was one of the best players in the league? (Football league young player of the year 11/12, Football league team of the year 12/13). He was recognised for his ability and potential at that level, and it wasn't just based on goals and assists (which no footballer should be judged purely on anyway) but his overall play, which was impressive. I don't see why those accolades should just be disregarded.
Stats don't really paint the full picture for either player either. Zaha's performance levels dropped quite severely during the transfer window when big clubs were sniffing around him, though he gradually picked up as the season went on. A lot of players suffer on the pitch when their future is up in the air, though he did well to improve that towards the end of the season. Lingard scored 6 goals for Birmingham, though 4 of them came in one game - which is an excellent feat itself, even if it was against an embarrassingly poor Sheffield Wednesday side at the time. So like Zaha, he went a lot of games without goals.
Whenever I watched Zaha play for Palace, he seemed to carve out an impressive amount of chances, getting behind the defence, playing the right ball into the box, but unfortunately they didn't always result in goals, but stats obviously don't record that. I'm not doubting Lingard is a good player, but I don't think he has looked as dangerous as Zaha has overall.
Both are good players, but I don't see Lingard as the better player just now. Perhaps he might go on to be a better player, especially if the stuff about Zaha being a waster are true. Personally, I'd be surprised if either of them have long term futures at United, especially considering the attacking players we have now.
Couldnt say it better, spot on. Btw, just like Lingard is above Zaha in the pecking order at United, with equal chances Zaha was far above Lingard in the pecking order at England u21, and he has even made his debut in the national team.
yeah they are all not proven is my point. All can make it or no one can make it. However it seems that three managers can't see Zaha's potential on the training pitch which is worrying.
To paraphrase Warnock:
"Manchester United don't have time for youngsters that aren't very good."
Crystal Palace don't have time for decent managers like Tony Pulis?
Pretty much.
Id love to know why this lad didnt even make an appearance for us after the crap performances of our wingers last season, I doubt the Lauren Moyes stories are true, I heard a comment last week somewhere about him having the wrong attitude, perhaps a bit of a party animal ?
Three managers?? Which ones? Moyes, and? You cant say LVG, as Zaha just doesnt fit in his system.
I think he's included LvG, as well as Ole Solskjaer.
He played eleven matches at Cardiff, doubt Ole fits in this, and as I said, theres no place for Zaha in a 352.
That's a brave (and poor) shout from a man who sends his assistant manager's to listen in on other team's half time team talks.
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2003/jan/01/newsstory.sport4
Would love to be a fly on the wall when the press officer informs Louis of Warnock's comments.
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2003/jan/01/newsstory.sport4
Would love to be a fly on the wall when the press officer informs Louis of Warnock's comments.
Yeah, LvG and Ole. He played like 10 mathces for half a season at Cardiff and seems that LvG doesn't rate him to let him go on loan, and for example keep Lingard.
I think eventually we'll move onto 4-3-3 when everyone is fit.
He starts from the left.
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