Admittedly, I haven't watched him that much, but I struggle to see what attributes he has that are so great that they make up for his abysmal work rate and defensive lapses. His dribbling is erratic at best, and I even think he looks a little sluggish at times. He may turn out a great player, but I fail to see how at the moment.
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It's the way the game has gone I'm afraid. There's old pros from the 80's and early 90's that worked far harder in their playing careers and do you know where they are now? They're driving taxis, delivering mail, working in shops. They must be disgusted seeing young players get massive contracts thrown at them.
Its hard to say that its not a media agenda given how Zaha has been profiled from the media during his time at Utd. It would be like saying the sacking of DM didn't have a media agenda and was just cause he was rubbish. Think how they portrayed him had some (little perhaps) bearing on it. Its ridiculous to say its not a media agenda when 90% of our information comes via that source. Are you suggesting that MOTD couldn't have highlighted other players that are supposedly lazy. Yep, managers are probably right he could work harder but if you asked them of an appraisal of most young players, they would suggest he doesn't concentrate enough, his decision making is poor.....Its like stating the obvious. Unfortunately on forums we have to surmise or make assumptions because in reality aside from our own informed opinions (cant say I've watched too many Cardiff games), we have to rely on the media to tell us the rest given most of the time we've watched players its the highlights the media want to show us anyway.....
Its funny cause I never read anything about how rubbish he was or lazy for that matter when he was on tour last year, in fact it was quite the opposite with most suggesting he'd be pushing for a first team start.
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Are we really going to reject another talented young player based on attitude and temperament? Is it possible that we have a problem in how we develop and prepare these young men to be part of the first team? Perhaps we are not working in the right ways to develop them enough as people and deal with the mental and psychological aspects of success and stardom and pressure.
Then, when problems arise, we ship them out and blame their temperament for not being "right for United".
Then, when problems arise, we ship them out and blame their temperament for not being "right for United".
How on earth can a club that, by law, can only work with children for a limited amount of hours per week really shape and determine the behaviour of a young person? I can only assume you're hinting at Ravel Morrison, who was a troubled child, one who presumably had many more important figures of authority in his life, namely his parents, family and teachers throughout school. Yet, he, by more than football standards, had a bad attitude. He was quite rightly let go as a result of his later inability to turn up to training on time. In the grand scheme of things, a football club has little responsibility in the upbringing of children and their issues throughout their childhoods. They're not given the access.
As for Zaha, I'm not really seeing what the club has done wrong? I've previously stated that I'd like to see him given an opportunity to sort his United career out, however, there's only so much can be done. If Zaha really is just walking about the pitch for a relegation - threatened Cardiff, what more can be said or done? "Run Wilf, run,!" It's all up to him at this point, he's a big lad.
Haha this is a big thing for me. Fergie became really soft at the end. If it were any other club half of this lot would have been shipped out by now.
As for Zaha I hope he gets a chance and does good but I if he doesn't buck up I'd happily send him packing. He is a gobshite just like Ravel with only half the talent. He has shown bright sparks but so have tons of other young players. When you get into fights with teammates in the middle of a match and can't show up for a reserve match on time then I don't have much time for you.
exactly. that was pathetic. the only time he chased the ball down was when he lost it, multiple times.
Pic: Wilfried Zaha is definitely the right man to advertise this company's brand of incredibly tight support shorts
I won't post the pictures, but have at look for yourself. Oh Wilf.
I won't post the pictures, but have at look for yourself. Oh Wilf.
How does one respond to that? Perhaps it is more understandable why Moyes' daughter and he hooked up? 
Looks shopped to me. Some of the pixels look weird and surely when wearing such tight pants it would squash your cock down the side of one leg.
Thats the thing it has a genital pouch so your cock isn't being squashed to the side.
Just say it; you are envious!
He spent too much time looking at the cock, not reading the literature.
@AlexeyPic: Wilfried Zaha is definitely the right man to advertise this company's brand of incredibly tight support shorts
I won't post the pictures, but have at look for yourself. Oh Wilf.
So it does! For the love of....
I don't think it needs saying tbf!!
I don't think it needs saying tbf!!
He has a career ahead of him should this footballing thing not work out!
If Lauren didn't get any of that I bet she wishes she did now
Pretty much his highlight of the season that.
Played well this weekend... Not that anyone much cares.
Goal (yes i know) are saying that United are open to offers for him.
I don't think we should give up on him so soon.
It's another awful article from Goal. We won't take £5 million for someone who has the potential to become a very good player. We definitely won't sell him. Development isn't linear and it's better than he learns to apply himself more now. Moyes was right to not play him more and there were indications, such as Phil Neville's comments and even Januzaj playing in the Premier League for us before Zaha did, regarding his work ethic IMO. You also have comments like the ones below (the first by Ole Gunnar Solskjaer and the second by Ian Holloway):
That, however, doesn't excuse Moyes' decision to bring him on against Newcastle. Of course if he had scored then we would be congratulating Moyes and Zaha, but I don't think that's the sort of environment that suits a player who is still adjusting to playing at a big club. He was clearly nervous. Yeah Macheda scored against Aston Villa and even Will Keane came close to scoring on his début, but these players were in good form when they were called up. Zaha has the potential to become a good player, IMO. The next step is to show a better work ethic and attitude, so much so that Phil Neville (if he stays) will be assiduous in talking about the improvement he has made in training.
That, however, doesn't excuse Moyes' decision to bring him on against Newcastle. Of course if he had scored then we would be congratulating Moyes and Zaha, but I don't think that's the sort of environment that suits a player who is still adjusting to playing at a big club. He was clearly nervous. Yeah Macheda scored against Aston Villa and even Will Keane came close to scoring on his début, but these players were in good form when they were called up. Zaha has the potential to become a good player, IMO. The next step is to show a better work ethic and attitude, so much so that Phil Neville (if he stays) will be assiduous in talking about the improvement he has made in training.
You're actually criticizing Moyes for giving him some minutes in the league? Either he needs minutes or he doesn't, too many people are making excuses for this guy. He's done absolutely zero to prove himself. He did well in the third tier of English Football but he's 21 now and it's time to grow up. Until he's actually showed his coaches and manager he is good enough to play and then starts to show what he is capable of then I will have no time for him. You only have to look at Januzaj and the hundreds before him that prove that if you have the talent and work ethic you will make it at this club.
I am blaming Moyes for bringing him on in an environment that doesn't suit his mentality. At the time, he looked mentally fragile (and probably still is). The best way to introduce Zaha is by bringing him on when we're winning and see how well he does then, like against Aston Villa. We are more or less making the same point, though I have blamed Moyes for a "small" aspect of Zaha's time here with us. It's his lack of application in training that has led to him not getting many games and I also cite comments from two managers who back that claim up, so no I don't think he's blameless.
Zaha's had a little dig at Moyes this morning, but he sounds determined to return to United and give it a proper go.
http://www.teamtalk.com/news/2483/9...-Moyes-did-not-trust-him-at-Manchester-United
http://www.teamtalk.com/news/2483/9...-Moyes-did-not-trust-him-at-Manchester-United
What he hasn't asked himself is why Moyes didn't trust him enough to play him. Moyes saw him every day in training, maybe that's why.
As for Van Gaal, Zaha is a million miles away from the profile of a Van Gaal winger.
As for Van Gaal, Zaha is a million miles away from the profile of a Van Gaal winger.
Good interview, lets give the lad a chance next season. He is obviously hungry for success and he has the talent to make it here. If he is still bad under Van Gaal then we can sell him.
Oh boy.
It's all Moyes fault obviously, nothing wrong with Zaha.
Fact that he can't even break into starting eleven at fecking Cardiff is Moyes fault as well, poor lad.
It's all Moyes fault obviously, nothing wrong with Zaha.
Fact that he can't even break into starting eleven at fecking Cardiff is Moyes fault as well, poor lad.
We'll probably never know who was at fault, if anyone. May be just a case of him not being good enough yet. Or maybe Zaha just fannied about, as some have suggested.
Regardless, I still want him to be given a chance before we cast him aside. There is a great deal of talent there, though he just doesn't seem to know how to use it.
Regardless, I still want him to be given a chance before we cast him aside. There is a great deal of talent there, though he just doesn't seem to know how to use it.
He's not been good enough to start for Cardiff and does not deserve a chance in our team next season. Awful attitude.
At least now we know he didn't shag Moyes's daughter.Poor lad.
Can we do a swap deal Zaha + money for Daehli?
Can we do a swap deal Zaha + money for Daehli?
Actually, he was second tier PotY last season.
He's rubbish both in his football and his attitude. Palace have conned us for £15m.
He been awful at Cardiff and from where I stand his attitude leaves a lot to be desired. I doubt he'll leave this year but he'll need to seriously up his game if he wants to make it here.
Zaha obviously has talent, he showed that at Palace last year and did well in our pre-season, but his mentality seems to be letting him down at the minute.
Zaha obviously has talent, he showed that at Palace last year and did well in our pre-season, but his mentality seems to be letting him down at the minute.
Still have faith in him making it here, needs to change his attitude and start looking at himself other than Moyes
That interview is full of excuses.
That interview is full of excuses.
Some of the comments...
How about we give him a little more time? Yeah he's been disappointing but he obviously has talent. I'm sure he's aware of how big of a chance he has been given at Manchester United.
Everyone in our squad is shit nowadays.
How about we give him a little more time? Yeah he's been disappointing but he obviously has talent. I'm sure he's aware of how big of a chance he has been given at Manchester United.
Everyone in our squad is shit nowadays.
The attitude is bad enough but he's simply not good enough anyway. Palace mugged us out of £15m
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