Why isn't FC United in the Football Forum?

RedCanuck said:

Not quite the word I would have used
A lot of the things you say I dont agree with some I do some I dont but at least you use some sort of reasoned argument in your posts and fair play to you
I think we enven agreed on something last night
Thats the thing with this world every one has their own ideas and it would not be much fun if we all seen eye to eye
But wit Ern I just find most of his postings about Glazer inane dribble and pointless and have now come to the conclusion that me reading his posts are just a waste of my time also by using the ignore list it also saves me time as I done even have his posts there to get past
 
Back to the original question. I don't think specific threads about FCUM belong in the Manchester United forum.

However FCUM is obviously very closely linked to United in a way that means it is too important to be put in Football or General forums. It deserves it's own seperate section IMO. I'll have apassing interest in how they get on but come footie season I'll be more intersted in Villa away to Wigan, for example, than any game involving FCUM.

How FCUM is goping to affect Glazers takeover of United is beyond me to be honest, it'll have no effect that I can see. It will pander to the bruised egos of those who vowed to stop the takeover, they surely have large amounts of egg on their faces. Wether Glazer ultimately fails or succeeds at OT the next owner of United will be another wealthy business man or a public flotation, we will never be owned by the fans. To think otherwise is just a pipedream.
 
TheDevil'sOwn said:
JCL OOT Yank Mancs Forever
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The revolution starts here. ;)
 
RedCanuck said:
I think we're all nervous about the Glazer takeover but the SU way is definately not the way.

Why why why why why can people not differentiate between the different organisations involved here? This thread is about FCUM, who are not SU. They are only linked in as far as they are both anti-Glazer, and share members. As do various other fanzines and groups such as IMUSA.
It makes me very worried when people group them all as one, and then take a "them and us" approach. Why? Becuase if you're talking about all these groups in one sweeping statement, then who are you talking about? I'll tell you who: The Anti-Glazer movement. And if you're taking a "them and us" approach against the whole Anti-Glazer movement, then where does that put you?
As others have said, it's completely valid to take whatever approach to this horrible situation you deem fit, but I just don't get why people spend their own time attacking other people's approach.
 
A1Dan said:
Why why why why why can people not differentiate between the different organisations involved here? This thread is about FCUM, who are not SU. They are only linked in as far as they are both anti-Glazer, and share members. As do various other fanzines and groups such as IMUSA.
If you wish to see a thread about each organisation then I will petition for threads about FCUM to be moved. We all understand that the groups in opposition are varied, SU is being used (at least by me) as short-hand for the numerous groups that are interested in forming FCUM. If you wish to provide an title that we can refer to them as a group then do so, otherwise it will stand.
A1Dan said:
It makes me very worried when people group them all as one, and then take a "them and us" approach. Why? Becuase if you're talking about all these groups in one sweeping statement, then who are you talking about?
This is a rather facile argument. If the particular group that you are referring to does not support the creation of 'FC United' then it is not covered in the thread topic.
A1Dan said:
I'll tell you who: The Anti-Glazer movement. And if you're taking a "them and us" approach against the whole Anti-Glazer movement, then where does that put you?
This thread is about 'FC United', not the 'Anti-Glazer movement'. The 'them and us' approach has been coopted by the 'Anti-Glazer movement'.
A1Dan said:
As others have said, it's completely valid to take whatever approach to this horrible situation you deem fit, but I just don't get why people spend their own time attacking other people's approach.
Stupid choices should not be condoned by sensible people.
 
RedCanuck said:
I was looking for an explanation or clarification why a club other than Manchester United were being discussed in the Manchester United forum. Once FC United kick-off they are surely their own (and different) club.
Your question was simple and fair. And yes, it's piss-plain obvious that threads discussing FC United in its own right should be in the Football Forum. Threads relating to it as a (one and only) Manchester United issue should be in the Manchester United Forum. Of course, discussions that appear to belong in the latter category will often be open to debate, so... I think I'll go and make a cup of tea.

Sorry if someone's already said the same thing (with or without the beverage conclusion) but when you've overlooked a thread for a couple of days, who can be arsed to plod through all five bloody pages?
 
A1Dan said:
Why why why why why can people not differentiate between the different organisations involved here? This thread is about FCUM, who are not SU. They are only linked in as far as they are both anti-Glazer, and share members. As do various other fanzines and groups such as IMUSA.
It makes me very worried when people group them all as one, and then take a "them and us" approach. Why? Becuase if you're talking about all these groups in one sweeping statement, then who are you talking about? I'll tell you who: The Anti-Glazer movement. And if you're taking a "them and us" approach against the whole Anti-Glazer movement, then where does that put you?
As others have said, it's completely valid to take whatever approach to this horrible situation you deem fit, but I just don't get why people spend their own time attacking other people's approach.
Good post.
 
RedCanuck said:
If you wish to see a thread about each organisation then I will petition for threads about FCUM to be moved. We all understand that the groups in opposition are varied, SU is being used (at least by me) as short-hand for the numerous groups that are interested in forming FCUM. If you wish to provide an title that we can refer to them as a group then do so, otherwise it will stand.

I would have though FCUM was a pretty appropriate acronym to use whan talking about FC United.
You won't mind if I start using teh term "Glazer's fans" to encompass the whole spectrum of people who post anti-SU sentiments then? I appreciate it's not accurate, but it's easier that way...
 
RedCanuck
If you wish to see a thread about each organisation then I will petition for threads about FCUM to be moved. We all understand that the groups in opposition are varied, SU is being used (at least by me) as short-hand for the numerous groups that are interested in forming FCUM. If you wish to provide an title that we can refer to them as a group then do so, otherwise it will stand.
Seems to me that you have some ulterior motive for having SU ,IMUSA.FC United etc moved from the Manchester United Forum
Whats next have it banned completely from RedCafe
Ive not noticed all you glazerites out there whinging and moaning about other threads on here like

Park v Essien - who'd win in a fight?

Time to Ban the Agents ?

World XI

Just two or three threads that have been posted on the Manchester United Forum over the last couple of days Or do these ones not count to you Glazerites Possibly because they dont use the words FC United or Glazer
As you ve been told before the answers easy
If you dont like it dont read it
 
jasonrh said:
Can we tone down the rhetoric and the namecalling at some point?
The SU/IMUSA/FCUM/FightFromWithin/AwayReds/PhoenixFund/Fanzine side's "The Coalition," according to untold number of threads like this on RI.

"Glazerites v. The Coalition"

Lines drawn on the pitch. Families torn apart. Brother against Brother.

I'm going to go ahead and write a journal about this all year. Write a script next summer, and sell it to Hollywood and make myself millions.

This is my stand...and I'm going to make it.
 
TheDevil'sOwn said:
The SU/IMUSA/FCUM/FightFromWithin/AwayReds/PhoenixFund/Fanzine side's "The Coalition," according to untold number of threads like this on RI.

"Glazerites v. The Coalition"

Lines drawn on the pitch. Families torn apart. Brother against Brother.

I'm going to go ahead and write a journal about this all year. Write a script next summer, and sell it to Hollywood and make myself millions.

This is my stand...and I'm going to make it.

Red Issue? God, most of those people were insufferable before the takeover.

I can't imagine going there without an affadivit proving I was conceived by George Best at Wembley during halftime in the EC final and a picture of my birthmark that is shaped like Billy Meredith's moustache.

That place has become the home for the Holier Than Holier Than Thou's.
 
jasonrh said:
Red Issue? God, most of those people were insufferable before the takeover.

I can't imagine going there without an affadivit proving I was conceived by George Best at Wembley during halftime in the EC final and a picture of my birthmark that is shaped like Billy Meredith's moustache.

That place has become the home for the Holier Than Holier Than Thou's.

I don't like it either.....RI that is. That said, this place is more laid back, but also full of Anti-SU/IMUSA/FCUM/PhoenixFund sentiments.

Anyway.......Glazerites Vs The Coalition. Could be a great fight.;)
 
jasonrh said:
I can't imagine going there without an affadivit proving I was conceived by George Best at Wembley during halftime in the EC final and a picture of my birthmark that is shaped like Billy Meredith's moustache.
Sh*t, that would make you my twin brother!
 
giggzy said:
I don't like it either.....RI that is. That said, this place is more laid back, but also full of Anti-SU/IMUSA/FCUM/PhoenixFund sentiments.

Anyway.......Glazerites Vs The Coalition. Could be a great fight.;)
Just wait until the sequels.

"Manc Wars I - The Tampa Menace" - The story of MUFC/FCUM in their first year together. It will have people crying in their seats and then standing on them cheering @ the end. The gamut of emotions will be run front and back. That will lead us to...

"Manc Wars II - Attack of the Scholes" - The Ginger Prince will rise and lead the Shirts to victory! But who really wins in the end? Is it the evil Corporate Empire that strengthens its grip? What does this mean for the David Re-Bellion and FCUM?

All of this, of course, will be concluded in:

"Manc Wars III - Revenge of the Smith" - Alan Smith will once again play steady first team football. But will he still be @ United? Or will the SheepShorn-Troopers, adorned in their dazzling Whites...return from the depths of administration, and join forces with the Corporate Glazerites, hellbent on taking United down that same, dark road, and wage the final relegation battle against MUFC, FCUM and the Coalition forces...to decide the fate of all - forever!?!

After that, I'll buy an island and take 15-20 years to mellow out.
 
Now you're just being silly.
mickthered said:
Seems to me that you have some ulterior motive for having SU ,IMUSA.FC United etc moved from the Manchester United Forum
Whats next have it banned completely from RedCafe
I have no ulterior motive, just a Manchester United fan. If you believe I have an ulterior motive I'm curious what you think it is.
 
TheDevil'sOwn said:
Just wait until the sequels.

"Manc Wars I - The Tampa Menace" - The story of MUFC/FCUM in their first year together. It will have people crying in their seats and then standing on them cheering @ the end. The gamut of emotions will be run front and back. That will lead us to...

"Manc Wars II - Attack of the Scholes" - The Ginger Prince will rise and lead the Shirts to victory! But who really wins in the end? Is it the evil Corporate Empire that strengthens its grip? What does this mean for the David Re-Bellion and FCUM?

All of this, of course, will be concluded in:

"Manc Wars III - Revenge of the Smith" - Alan Smith will once again play steady first team football. But will he still be @ United? Or will the SheepShorn-Troopers, adorned in their dazzling Whites...return from the depths of administration, and join forces with the Corporate Glazerites, hellbent on taking United down that same, dark road, and wage the final relegation battle against MUFC, FCUM and the Coalition forces...to decide the fate of all - forever!?!

After that, I'll buy an island and take 15-20 years to mellow out.


:lol:


The only worry is that, it could all be a huge let down. Fans will probably point to the original Manc War trilogy and say, 'The original Manc War Tril was a lot better, altho' Return of the Djemba was a tad overrated'.
 
giggzy said:
:lol:


The only worry is that, it could all be a huge let down. Fans will probably point to the original Manc War trilogy and say, 'The original Manc War Tril was a lot better, altho' Return of the Djemba was a tad overrated'.
:D

"A Roon Hope" and "The Empire Strikes Gaz" were the others.

Classics!

Darth Glazer rips off his mask to reveal he's actually Neville Neville:

"Phil...I am your father!"

"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
 
giggzy said:
:lol:


The only worry is that, it could all be a huge let down. Fans will probably point to the original Manc War trilogy and say, 'The original Manc War Tril was a lot better, altho' Return of the Djemba was a tad overrated'.

Overrated? It was pure crap.

Even as a kid I knew that Ewok Djemba-Djemba was garbage. Just a pathetic attempt to sell stuffed animals to the Day Trippers.

ewokdjemba.jpg
 
TheDevil'sOwn said:
:D

"A Roon Hope" and "The Empire Strikes Gaz" were the others.

Classics!

Darth Glazer rips off his mask to reveal he's actually Neville Neville:

"Phil...I am your father!"

"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

I loved the bit in The Empire Strikes Gaz when Gary goes to the swamp planet, France, to complete his training and meets the legendary Yodana.

"When follows the trawler the seagull does, the time has come for sardines."

yodana.jpg
 
The shittest part about Return of the Djemba was indubitably the unmasking of Darth Glazer.

That cnut wouldn't stop smiling even as his life support was shut off.

darthglazer.jpg


Ginger bastard. Gazza should have stuck the lightsaber up his ass, like Yadana suggested.
 
Princess Beckham.

Gazza thought she was the hottest woman of all time.

Then he found out Princess Daveia was his sister.

princessbeckham.jpg


"'elp me Gary Neville, you're me only, like, 'ope, like".