VP89
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Oliver Kay went in pretty hard in that Athletic article.
Bayern sacked midway.We don't want to do a Bayern.
Can you really just pretend like Brighton should be on the same level as us. They sold key players and didn't replace them and had to play extra games this season. They made a significant profit though based on selling players which is probably their owners priorityLost as many games as us and didn't win the FA Cup. Boom!
He announced he's staying at Sporting.What happend to Amorim?
There was a lot of talk of him going to a few clubs towards the end of the season but thats all gone very quiet.
What happend to Amorim?
There was a lot of talk of him going to a few clubs towards the end of the season but thats all gone very quiet.
The most obvious answer is that, given Berrada and Ashworth haven't arrived yet, it hasn't really been settled on. The thing all the names have in common is experience in English football, so it feels like it would be a safety first pick whilst the structure settles around them, assessing other options in the meantime. Should've been decided weeks ago, though.Oliver Kay makes a great point which seems obvious but I haven’t seen pointed out before… these candidates which we’re speaking to are all completely different in style - that is worrying and suggests a lack of clear vision from INEOS
Woody was (rightly) criticised for lurching from Moyes to Van Gaal to Mourinho and so on… managers all with totally different styles leading to a horrendously mismatched squad…
The fact INEOS think a list of managers as varied as this can all be potential successors to Ten Hag is worrying.
I won’t use the word frauds but I do get the sense of a bunch who are playing big at a game they don’t really understand, and who aren’t of blowing their own trumpet while doing so - so you can add arrogance into the mix as well.
My main hope is it’s all press lies but there’s too much noise for it to all be made up.
Agreed. I think the likelihood is, he fluffed the interview for whatever reason.I don't believe Tuchel turned us down. He's not said previously that he's taking a break, and probably would have explained this weeks ago when we supposedly started talking to him. Which leads me to think he's not first choice, as other articles have suggested. Falk, I believe, also broke the news first, and he didn't mention that Tuchel wants a break from football. Nobody has until these talks today. So I'm thinking he knows he has no options if we go elsewhere and therefore is taking a break whether he likes it or not.
Well, to be honest, I don't see how that can be the case. Surely part of the interview process was the vision for the club going forward? What sort of style would you look to implement in your role (obviously not Berrada, but Ashworth). I am starting to think Southgate is actually their first choice.The most obvious answer is that, given Berrada and Ashworth haven't arrived yet, it hasn't really been settled on. The thing all the names have in common is experience in English football, so it feels like it would be a safety first pick whilst the structure settles around them, assessing other options in the meantime. Should've been decided weeks ago, though.
De Zerbi will replace Guardiola at City in 2025 imho..thats why his buy out is in secret. He has one year now to prepare himself for the job.I had Tuchel and De Zerbi down as new manager prospects but that was a while ago and expected one of them to be announced around a week after the FA Cup.
De Zerbi was supposedly in a new job with maximum secrecy. If it was to an Italian club we'd know by now surely? Could be still us or City but if this De Zerbi deal is already done by the end of season does that tally with ETH still not sure and talks with Tuchel, even if this is weeks behind news coming out. I feel we'd know via ETH/reporters.
Spot on.I'm still confident it won't be Southgate. Media just love winding our fans up and we lap it up every time.
Ya I’m also of the opinion there is absolutely no interest in Southgate . Someone remembered Ashworth and Southgate worked together and knew it would draw attentionI'm still confident it won't be Southgate. Media just love winding our fans up and we lap it up every time.
Oliver Kay went in pretty hard in that Athletic article.
It certainly seems like it’s down to Poch or Southgate at the very least… unless they REALLY just want to make ETH understand how on the hot seat he is by humiliating him for more than a month with this review.Well, to be honest, I don't see how that can be the case. Surely part of the interview process was the vision for the club going forward? What sort of style would you look to implement in your role (obviously not Berrada, but Ashworth). I am starting to think Southgate is actually their first choice.
It certainly seems very strung out to keep him within the running, otherwise surely you move forward with the candidates available now?It certainly seems like it’s down to Poch or Southgate at the very least… unless they REALLY just want to make ETH understand how on the hot seat he is by humiliating him for more than a month with this review.
This seems an especially odd amount of time to spend on the decision if Southgate and the Euros weren’t at least a factor though.
I'm not sure that's completely fair.Oliver Kay makes a great point which seems obvious but I haven’t seen pointed out before… these candidates which we’re speaking to are all completely different in style - that is worrying and suggests a lack of clear vision from INEOS
Woody was (rightly) criticised for lurching from Moyes to Van Gaal to Mourinho and so on… managers all with totally different styles leading to a horrendously mismatched squad…
The fact INEOS think a list of managers as varied as this can all be potential successors to Ten Hag is worrying.
I won’t use the word frauds but I do get the sense of a bunch who are playing big at a game they don’t really understand, and who aren’t of blowing their own trumpet while doing so - so you can add arrogance into the mix as well.
My main hope is it’s all press lies but there’s too much noise for it to all be made up.
It's gonna be Southgate and I can't wait.
It certainly seems very strung out to keep him within the running, otherwise surely you move forward with the candidates available now?
I think the Ashworth links to Southgate also seem to align to him being a favoured candidate.
I'm just struggling to get my head round why there's been no movement.
If they've spoken with him a few weeks ago, there is no need to meet again, especially as he's busy with England.
There's also a very good chance they opt to just keep Ten Hag at this point.Spot on.
In my view it's clear he's not one of the finalists. It came down to Tuchel, Poch, Frank and De Zerbi. Two remaining if Jason Burt's report on Poch is to be believed.
Palace wanted €100m from Bayern for him.Why isn't glasner being considered?
That explains it then.Palace wanted €100m from Bayern for him.
I doubt that was the only discussion that took place between United and Tuchel.Why would Ratcliffe be the person interviewing managers? Based on what expertise?
Surely you'd expect Wilcox to be best placed, considering the other players are still out gardening?
Liverpool agreed a deal for him to be their new manager but he changed his mind because he wanted to stay at Sporting.
Probably just had a meeting, realized they don't fit each other and that's it.So Tuchel was more of a 'I'll reject you, so you can't reject me' kinda deal?
Think he was clearly rejected but obviously it doesn't reflect well. No shame in twisting the picture through his mouthpiece.So Tuchel was more of a 'I'll reject you, so you can't reject me' kinda deal?
Why would Ratcliffe be the person interviewing managers? Based on what expertise?
Surely you'd expect Wilcox to be best placed, considering the other players are still out gardening?