Which striker in the summer?

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Mainoldo said:
Who? Kane and Benzema would cost more.
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Vietto would be cheaper and looks much more talented. Same with Lacazette, who wouldn't cost much more. Benzema is that much better, would easily be worth to pay more for him.
Benteke is not good enough and for that kind of money he shouldn't be a option.
 
OGkush said:
why not try and elaborate yourself as to where I went wrong here instead of being a smartass.
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Sorry, I didn't mean to. Just that your post seemed a bit negative - I mean, didn't think we'd sign Di Maria at the start of last summer but we did (and now I wish we didn't but that's another story).

I do agree that there are not a lot of great strikers around at the moment though. The game has changed - for a start there are a lot less strikers playing regularly as teams used to play 2 and now a lot play just 1.

I would like us to sign a young striker that still has room for development - that's the United way anyway.
 
Pyroblazer said:
Vietto would be cheaper and looks much more talented. Same with Lacazette, who wouldn't cost much more. Benzema is that much better, would easily be worth to pay more for him.
Benteke is not good enough and for that kind of money he shouldn't be a option.
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Vietto is just a kid and isn't ready to lead the line for Manchester United. He doesn't even lead the line for Villareal. The others as you've stated would cost more like I said. Benteke is better than Lacazette too.
 
I don't get why we are being linked with Bacca - we've got Chica if we want a penalty box striker and Bacca's not exactly young. Seriously don't want him at Man Utd. Benteke is too limited a player imo, especially for the figures being quoted.

Either get one or two young players who can quickly develop or go for a big name like Benzema, Cavani or Higuain. The limited, older strikers we are being linked with worry me as they aren't good enough and have no long term future, so why bother?
 
GeneralGattuso said:
I don't get why we are being linked with Bacca - we've got Chica if we want a penalty box striker and Bacca's not exactly young. Seriously don't want him at Man Utd. Benteke is too limited a player imo, especially for the figures being quoted.

Either get one or two young players who can quickly develop or go for a big name like Benzema, Cavani or Higuain. The limited, older strikers we are being linked with worry me as they aren't good enough and have no long term future, so why bother?
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He just scored in tne EL Final thats why
 
GeneralGattuso said:
I don't get why we are being linked with Bacca - we've got Chica if we want a penalty box striker and Bacca's not exactly young. Seriously don't want him at Man Utd. Benteke is too limited a player imo, especially for the figures being quoted.

Either get one or two young players who can quickly develop or go for a big name like Benzema, Cavani or Higuain. The limited, older strikers we are being linked with worry me as they aren't good enough and have no long term future, so why bother?
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I'm not trying to promote Benteke or anything but in what way is he limited and he's 24.
 
Pyroblazer said:
Vietto would be cheaper and looks much more talented. Same with Lacazette, who wouldn't cost much more. Benzema is that much better, would easily be worth to pay more for him.
Benteke is not good enough and for that kind of money he shouldn't be a option.
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Mainoldo said:
Who? Kane and Benzema would cost more.
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Hernandez can easily produce the numbers Benteke has. Might has well keep him IMO. I haven't seen Vietto in action at all and bits and pieces of Lacazette so can't really comment. 40mn could probably get Benzema so pound for pound, that would be the better signing. What's the gossip on Icardi?
 
SoCross said:
Hernandez can easily produce the numbers Benteke has. Might has well keep him IMO. I haven't seen Vietto in action at all and bits and pieces of Lacazette so can't really comment. 40mn could probably get Benzema so pound for pound, that would be the better signing. What's the gossip on Icardi?
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Benteke is a much better player than Hernandez, goalscoring isn't the only trait of a forward at a big club.
 
Sarni said:
Benteke is a much better player than Hernandez, goalscoring isn't the only trait of a forward at a big club.
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Yeah I see your point but I thought our main problem this season was that there wasn't anyone at the end of whatever chances we created, no one running in behind etc etc. Do we need the better footballer or the better goal scorer? 32.5mn for a decent striker vs one last punt on Hernandez?

Edit: Benteke's numbers are better implying he's the better goal scorer but I suppose a minutes played:goals scored ratio would give a clearer picture.

Edit 2: I'd prefer Benzema over Hernandez no matter what the cost is.
 
Mainoldo said:
I'm not trying to promote Benteke or anything but in what way is he limited and he's 24.
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15 goals and 2 assists over 30(+3) games. His career assist record is very low. Yes he's a striker but he's just a striker, a target man who doesn't offer much beyond that, even his general holdup play isn't that great for a £30m player. This is a Liverpool - Andy Carroll type purchase.
 
SoCross said:
Yeah I see your point but I thought our main problem this season was that there wasn't anyone at the end of whatever chances we created, no one running in behind etc etc. Do we need the better footballer or the better goal scorer? 32.5mn for a decent striker vs one last punt on Hernandez?

Edit: Benteke's numbers are better implying he's the better goal scorer but I suppose a minutes played:goals scored ratio would give a clearer picture.

Edit 2: I'd prefer Benzema over Hernandez no matter what the cost is.
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I don't think we created that much to be fair. We need a striker who can make space for himself and make something out of nothing IMO.
 
GeneralGattuso said:
15 goals and 2 assists over 30(+3) games. His career assist record is very low. Yes he's a striker but he's just a striker, a target man who doesn't offer much beyond that, even his general holdup play isn't that great for a £30m player. This is a Liverpool - Andy Carroll type purchase.
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15 goals for Aston Villa is impressive when you consider there greatest goalscorer of all time is Abonglahar.

His hold up play isn't great but he's a target man? I don't get it. His not limited at all he just looks like a target man, hence your analysis.

Our main striker next season won't be expected to have many touches but to stretch the opposition defence and finish the ocassional chance that comes there way. I feel a player like Benteke, Benzema, Kane can do this to clever effect.
 
I think signing established players is something we shouldn't do and we should be more willing to sign 20-25 year olds who aren't at that top level yet. At least with the younger players you can mold them into what we need, but as we've seen with Falcao and Di Maria, they are unable/unwilling to learn a new system.

'World class' players are made.
 
Sarni said:
I don't think we created that much to be fair. We need a striker who can make space for himself and make something out of nothing IMO.
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Who in your mind, would be the most ideal striker for us out there? Regardless of availability?
 
We took a punt on Falcao last year, because he was available. This summer, Benteke & Benzema appear to be the best who may be available. I'd be very happy with either, playing in front of Rooney - Benteke might settle quicker but Benzema has the Champions League pedigree.
 
Nozzy said:
We took a punt on Falcao last year, because he was available. This summer, Benteke & Benzema appear to be the best who may be available. I'd be very happy with either, playing in front of Rooney - Benteke might settle quicker but Benzema has the Champions League pedigree.
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Hey Nozzy, do you think the Benteke and Benzema links are just rubbish rumours? :angel:
 
SoCross said:
Hey Nozzy, do you think the Benteke and Benzema links are just rubbish rumours? :angel:
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They could be either rumours based on valid journalism or rubbish based on lazy journalism - take your pick ;)
 
Mainoldo said:
15 goals for Aston Villa is impressive when you consider there greatest goalscorer of all time is Abonglahar.

His hold up play isn't great but he's a target man? I don't get it. His not limited at all he just looks like a target man, hence your analysis.

Our main striker next season won't be expected to have many touches but to stretch the opposition defence and finish the ocassional chance that comes there way. I feel a player like Benteke, Benzema, Kane can do this to clever effect.
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Look at his stats, he loses the ball alot - he's not good at hold up play. He's a big target for a ball in the box but knocking a long ball up and having him hold up the ball to wait for support isn't his game. Big difference between being a target man and being able to hold up the ball... generally target men are good at holding the ball up because of their size and strength but Benteke's stats for it don't make good reading. Even if he does manage to hold it up, he can't pass... his pass completition % for the season is just 66%.

If all you want from the main man upfront is a good finisher who is quick with good movement... Hernandez? Why spend £30m+ on a lump? LVG wanted more from his striker, so why go for Benteke? You want a 30 goal a season striker, that's not Benteke. Benzema - yes, Kane - maybe (see how he does is his 2nd season when defenders know how he plays).
 
GeneralGattuso said:
Look at his stats, he loses the ball alot - he's not good at hold up play. He's a big target for a ball in the box but knocking a long ball up and having him hold up the ball to wait for support isn't his game. Big difference between being a target man and being able to hold up the ball... generally target men are good at holding the ball up because of their size and strength but Benteke's stats for it don't make good reading. Even if he does manage to hold it up, he can't pass... his pass completition % for the season is just 66%.

If all you want from the main man upfront is a good finisher who is quick with good movement... Hernandez? Why spend £30m+ on a lump? LVG wanted more from his striker, so why go for Benteke? You want a 30 goal a season striker, that's not Benteke. Benzema - yes, Kane - maybe (see how he does is his 2nd season when defenders know how he plays).
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We'll see how he does tomorrow. The reason why we can't pick Hernandez is because he is a support striker I.e he is too limited to lead the line alone. Benteke already leads the line alone for both club and country so they don't compare.
 
Anyone rate Morata? he is still young and could potentially develop into something?

I must admit I have only seen him play 2 or 3 games this season, anyone watch him more frequently?
 
Benteke would suit us. We need a player that can hold the ball up, link up the play and get on the end of our endless crossing. He scores a variety of goals. He's much faster than big men normally are.

88 league appearances 42 goals. Only two goals away from a 1 in 2 goal tally playing for a crap Villa side.
 
I really don't want a stiker for a large sum of money. Do people realise that if we sign a striker for lots of money it means we drop 4-3-3 or else Rooney plays in midfield. I can understand signing a back up but I just don't want to be back in the situation we started the season in where we have to play two strikers all the time because rooney has to play
 
Benzema would be ridiculous here. Unlikely we'll get him but he would be the right player at the right age at the right time. Maybe Benitez fancies bringing Higuain back to Madrid. I can't see Madrid selling Benzema and even if they do then we will have fierce competition for his signature
 
Ringo 07 said:
Benzema would be ridiculous here. Unlikely we'll get him but he would be the right player at the right age at the right time. Maybe Benitez fancies bringing Higuain back to Madrid. I can't see Madrid selling Benzema and even if they do then we will have fierce competition for his signature
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Who else would be after him if at all he's available?we got enough fund to feed Real.Unless its players preference to move to other club, we would be in pole position to land him.
 
Mani said:
Who else would be after him if at all he's available?we got enough fund to feed Real.Unless its players preference to move to other club, we would be in pole position to land him.
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I'd say psg would probably be interested
Jose may be and has of course worked with benzema before
Wenger probably would
And if aguero goes (to real) surely city would be interested.
I'd say all could offer good money for him and all have cl football... We may have a bigger global fan base and we could possibly offer a little more money though you have to offset that against a lot of people finding London / Paris a more appealing place for them and their family to live
 
Few people keep talking about getting a new number '9' and having rooney as number 10, but we don't play with a number 10 anymore with a 433. If we get a new striker they will either be. ..

Second fiddle to rooney as number 9.
1st striker with rooney as a midfielder.
A wide forward/striker i.e muller who will fill in when rooney injured/rested. Just throwing it out there but Bale would be suitable for that
 
We are definitely going to invest in a striker this summer and will spend top money. Van Gaal had Rooney, RVP & Falcao as options, he will want someone of similar reputation/ilk/ability once again. No clue who that player is though!

Going to be an interesting summer!
 
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sun_tzu said:
I'd say psg would probably be interested
Jose may be and has of course worked with benzema before
Wenger probably would
And if aguero goes (to real) surely city would be interested.
I'd say all could offer good money for him and all have cl football... We may have a bigger global fan base and we could possibly offer a little more money though you have to offset that against a lot of people finding London / Paris a more appealing place for them and their family to live
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With FFP i would rule out PSG with their priority is elsewhere.
Comparing to city we would be in better position to land him unless its player exchange deal between city and Real.
But i have to agree Jose and Wenger can land him, may be with player preference to them for obvious reasons.
 
Mani said:
With FFP i would rule out PSG with their priority is elsewhere.
Comparing to city we would be in better position to land him unless its player exchange deal between city and Real.
But i have to agree Jose and Wenger can land him, may be with player preference to them for obvious reasons.
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Unless Blatter reduces the impact of ffp for his Qatari friends at psg?
 
If we are (and I hope we are) going with 1 up front next season then I see no problem with Rooney being the main man, RVP being backup and Hernandez being third choice

We're not going to do better than that without creating headaches for ourselves and if it doesn't work out then next summer the questions can be raised over the likes of Rooney and whether we've definitely outgrown him
 
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