Both big names, both shit, especially Cavani.
Which striker in the summer?
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Both big names, both shit, especially Cavani.
If we're talking about "World Class" strikers then no, but "shit"? If that's true, how do you describe most strikers? If the choice is between, an injured, out of form / over the hill RVP, a crocked Falcao, Benteke, Bacca or Cavani/Higuain... I'll take one of the latter two.
As we saw today - Benteke trying to hold up the ball and bring in supporting players? He couldn't do it to save his life! That is not the level of player Man Utd should be considering to lead the line, especially as a lone striker.
No way would I be happy with that. Rooney isn't World Class, RVP is fading and Hernandez should be put well in the past.
I'd take Rooney, Wilson and a good striker that will bag 20+ goals.
No idea who that could be though.
Higuain seems to have replaced Cavani as the striker of choice to link us with from the various chip wrappers and click baiters.
I really don't understand why we keep getting linked with strikers like Benzema, Benteke, Higuain. They're all classic #9s and what with the Rooney situation that is just not what we need right now.
Rooney will play every game when fit so if we do bring in a big name #9 he'll be playing the majority of those game as the #10 in LVG's system. Really doesn't benefit us when we could play Herrera or Mata or even Di Maria there.
We need a striker admittedly, but it's got to be one who's multifunctional and/or happy to play second fiddle to Rooney leading the line. Dybala would have been perfect but that ship's sailed. Lacazette would be smart as he could play on the right for us as well as up front. These are the types of strikers we should be looking at.
Rooney will play every game when fit so if we do bring in a big name #9 he'll be playing the majority of those game as the #10 in LVG's system. Really doesn't benefit us when we could play Herrera or Mata or even Di Maria there.
We need a striker admittedly, but it's got to be one who's multifunctional and/or happy to play second fiddle to Rooney leading the line. Dybala would have been perfect but that ship's sailed. Lacazette would be smart as he could play on the right for us as well as up front. These are the types of strikers we should be looking at.
This pisses me off so much, why must he start every game when fit? Surely given that we can virtually guarantee that he will have a period next season where his touch deserts him and he contributes very little, (Like he does at some point every single season) we should be planning to find someone to start in his place when it happens?
If we bought in a top class 9 i would rather we moved Rooney to 10 in place of Fellaini.
He has far more poor / mediocre games than good / great ones and this has been the case for a few years now. What games last season was he good / great?
I agree, which is why whoever we sign needs some flexibility since they obviously won't be playing upfront all the time.
I'd rather have a midfield 3 of Carrick, Herrera, Mata/Di Maria/Gundogan than Rooney in #10 if I'm honest.
Lewandowski would probably be the best suited signing in an ideal world. I presume we have no chance, though. After that someone like Benzema could do a great job for a few years but for some reason with him I'd be worried he'd pitch up not giving very many shits, a la di Maria.
Simply put, we should be looking for a top class striker to replace Rooney in the team. He can be a sub, or feck off.
Lacazette. Against poor teams, at home and in the group stages, we could easily play Depay-Rooney-Lacazette.
He would give us the flexibility to shift to 4-4-2 diamond which seems to be the only formation LvG rates AdM in as well.
He would give us the flexibility to shift to 4-4-2 diamond which seems to be the only formation LvG rates AdM in as well.
I guess my preference would go like this and I won't add strikers I don't think we have a hope of getting such as Lewandowski or Muller
1. Benzema
2. Lacazette/Icardi
3. Higuain
Benzema could well be on the market if Real decide to bring back Alvaro Morata. Arsenal already have Giroud. I think Benzema would be great as he wouldn't be in Ronaldo's shadow as has been seen with Bale recently too
1. Benzema
2. Lacazette/Icardi
3. Higuain
Benzema could well be on the market if Real decide to bring back Alvaro Morata. Arsenal already have Giroud. I think Benzema would be great as he wouldn't be in Ronaldo's shadow as has been seen with Bale recently too
We should go for Icardi. He's a great striker and I am sure that his wife will feel at home with Ryan Giggs.
Giggs is a family man...So Benteke has completely vanished from our possible striker targets? I know he isn't world class but in a team like our I could see him get the 20 goals LvG wants from his lone striker.
And so is Wada Nara. She had two families and was able to find more talented Argentinian players than Martin Ferguson.
I agree. I really think Benteke would suit us as a lone Striker in a 4-3-3. If given the right service he could be prolific. He would be a lot cheaper than most of the other names being mentioned as well.
I'd rather we got someone who's less reliant on crossing the ball. Benteke is good but you need to play to his strengths. I'd rather we got someone more agile, technical and better rather than a physical presence.
Icardi please.
Icardi please.
Icardi has just said he's happy at Inter and hoping to sort his contract out soon, while Aulas says Lacazette is staying at Lyon. So that's it for the younger options, I guess Lord Wazza will get the #9 role and we'll bring in a guy like Bacca who's nearly 29 and can triple his wages on our bench.
We need proven. We need experiance. We need pace / power. An alround proper #9 in the Alan Shearer or (fit at his best) Torres who will run the channels, be a presence and score 25 goals. For me, Benzema is the man!
He is the opposite of what you are describing though, isn't he? He is striker that gets a lot involved in the overall play and doesn't only look for scoring opportunities. Naturally he wouldn't be a bad fit for our team. The main question is just if he is available which I can only see happening if real get Agüero in the summer.
Why is Higuain shit? His goalscoring record at Madrid is the same like Benzema and in his last 2 years in Napoli he has outscored everyone else in all comps.
Who's this top striker we can sign that will definitely be better than rooney? I tell you what, the ones I know won't come to us. (Suarez, Aguero, Lewandowski)
All the other big name strikers have many deficiencies in their game. Benzema has average movement and isn't enough of a goal threat. Cavani is as inconsistent a finisher you can find and his work outside the box won't please united fans. Higuain is pretty much another Cavani story with his penchant for missing chances when he shouldn't be. Icardi has a great goal threat but is definitely not the post striker people love. I ask again, who's this top striker that's keeping Rooney on the bench?
Have you ever watched Benzema? He is the opposite of what you just described.But yeah we need a proper #9 who we can rely on scoring most of our goals. Higuain or Lacazette are my preferred signings.
Re: Bacca
I think he would would fit LVG's system well in that that he's very strong and can hold up the ball and doesn't drift wide or deep much, which LVG seems to hate in a striker. He makes good runs over the top and between the CB's and he's very clever in terms of movement and creating for others with lay offs and little through balls.
But his lack of upside at 28, his lack of pace, similarities to Rooney as a lone striker and the cost Sevilla (now in the CL) would presumably demand (though Chicharito would be an interesting fit there for both him and Sevilla) don't make a ton of sense.
I sort of think he'd be a Young or Fellaini here, in the sense of playing well in a circumscribed role under LVG but not really improving us. If he was 25 and playing the way he has the last 2 years, I'd say do it and we can sell him once LVG goes. But he's 28 and we should be looking higher up the market.
If RVP leaves for Juve or Turkey we will almost definitely sign a striker, unless Hernandez is surprisingly brought back with Wilson trusted to be the 3rd #9. RVP will be 32 at the start of the season. If his wages and a small fee would be almost enough to pay for Bacca (who will be 29 in September) I could see it happening. I think 29-31 Bacca is likely to outperform 32-34 RVP.
I think he would would fit LVG's system well in that that he's very strong and can hold up the ball and doesn't drift wide or deep much, which LVG seems to hate in a striker. He makes good runs over the top and between the CB's and he's very clever in terms of movement and creating for others with lay offs and little through balls.
But his lack of upside at 28, his lack of pace, similarities to Rooney as a lone striker and the cost Sevilla (now in the CL) would presumably demand (though Chicharito would be an interesting fit there for both him and Sevilla) don't make a ton of sense.
I sort of think he'd be a Young or Fellaini here, in the sense of playing well in a circumscribed role under LVG but not really improving us. If he was 25 and playing the way he has the last 2 years, I'd say do it and we can sell him once LVG goes. But he's 28 and we should be looking higher up the market.
If RVP leaves for Juve or Turkey we will almost definitely sign a striker, unless Hernandez is surprisingly brought back with Wilson trusted to be the 3rd #9. RVP will be 32 at the start of the season. If his wages and a small fee would be almost enough to pay for Bacca (who will be 29 in September) I could see it happening. I think 29-31 Bacca is likely to outperform 32-34 RVP.
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I'd take Benzema tbh, I think over the past few seasons hes been better than Rooney. Although Rooney has had mitigating circumstances (e.g playing in midfield and for a shit team)
As Kanye West would say, 'I don't have the answers '. Of those you listed, I'm not sure Lewandowski is completely off limits. Other than that, then perhaps a player with the talent to out perform Rooney, just needing the platform. It took Suarez little over a year in England to be considered better. Similar could happen with a Vietto or Lacazette for all I know.
I said in a different thread, but if we managed to sign Bale, I'd play him centre forward in a 3 ahead of Rooney too, I think he'd be devastating there, and doesn't have the dribbling ability to be a world class winger.
So in my eyes, Van Persie is off. His quotes doesn't really bleed "I'm leaving", but I tend to take those type of statements as "The club have told me to find a new team, otherwise I'll be on the bench".
I think signing a forward is always the most exciting type of transfer when it comes to a position, so I am very much looking forward to seeing who Van Gaal will go for. No doubt we'll sign someone rather than going into the season with just Rooney and Wilson, despite Depay being able to play up there.
There aren't many clear "available" fantastic talent available. I'd love to see Lacazzete come - very impressed with him. Not seen anything of Vietto so wouldn't be able to judge him.
I think signing a forward is always the most exciting type of transfer when it comes to a position, so I am very much looking forward to seeing who Van Gaal will go for. No doubt we'll sign someone rather than going into the season with just Rooney and Wilson, despite Depay being able to play up there.
There aren't many clear "available" fantastic talent available. I'd love to see Lacazzete come - very impressed with him. Not seen anything of Vietto so wouldn't be able to judge him.
2006 Saha would be perfect for this team.
Yep he'd be far more suitable than an out and out #9 for me. We need someone who's versatile.
Berba on a free!
Balotelli?
you know what I actually think LVG might have a heart attack at the amount of (i.e. lack of) running he does
That said I could see him coming back somewhere in the premiership and having an ok season or two (Southampton would be nice as they play some decent football) but I think he will end up at Spurs as Kane's back up
Lacazette.2006 Saha would be perfect for this team.
Yeah I'd say Benzema is better than Rooney. So much better that he's worth the money, and risk of not adapting and/or hurting squad cohesion by dropping Rooney to the beach or midfield? Probably not.
I'm not convinced by Benzema
All signings come with risks, but if a top player who can score goals is available, then I don't believe what you are saying is a valid reason not to pursue.
None of our strikers have scored 20+ league goals (or goals in all comps) in the past 2 seasons, so its equally a risk to rely on the same strikers to try and do that next season.
I don't believe anything is wrong with having healthy competition for Rooney tbh.
We don't need to sign one of the top strikers in the world to be competition for rooney, an up and coming sort would fit the bill and be less of a risk, especially in the case of Benzema who I'm not convinced is that much of an upgrade on Rooney.
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