Which striker in the summer?

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If Chica is coming back, we've got him, Roo and RVP, as well as Depay. Do we need to waste any money on a striker? Are other positions far more important?
 
MoBeats said:
If Chica is coming back, we've got him, Roo and RVP, as well as Depay. Do we need to waste any money on a striker? Are other positions far more important?
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Don't understand why everyone think us signing a striker will mean we somehow compromise on the rest of our targets. Think we need either a new striker or a goal threat from whoever plays right wing.
 
MoBeats said:
If Chica is coming back, we've got him, Roo and RVP, as well as Depay. Do we need to waste any money on a striker? Are other positions far more important?
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Hernandez isn't staying, there's no chance of that. Memphis isn't a striker either, he has never played as one.
 
I really can't see Hernandez returning. The quotes from himself and Van Gaal suggest that ship has sailed.

We need a forward with pace. We seriously lack that. There's Wilson, but I can't see him starting just yet.

Rooney, Wilson and maybe Van Persie. I'm sure we'll sign a forward. There's Depay, but he'll be more on the wing I'm sure.
 
RVP has declined at an incredible rate.

We desperately need some goal scorers in our team.
 
Any speculation about Vietto's future with Villarreal?

He'd be a great signing imo. Young, versatile, fits 433 perfectly. He's aggressive and a tough player to play against. I think he'd be ideal.
 
Anyone would be interested in Higuain on the cheap ? He apparently wants to leave Napoli.
 
Decotron said:
Any speculation about Vietto's future with Villarreal?

He'd be a great signing imo. Young, versatile, fits 433 perfectly. He's aggressive and a tough player to play against. I think he'd be ideal.
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I heard Atletico want him, they want to sell Mandzukic, would be a steal with hsi release clause.
 
MoBeats said:
If Chica is coming back, we've got him, Roo and RVP, as well as Depay. Do we need to waste any money on a striker? Are other positions far more important?
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The only decent Striker we have is Rooney (when he's actually playin as a Striker). RvP has looked spent this season & last season too. He's fluffed his lines on so many occasions (most recently against Arsenal) & he's not the same player he was in his first season.

Wilson needs more games to find out if he's United standard, but all the positives are there, but we cant rely on him to be our goal-scoring machine. We've already been through all this with Macheda

Chicarito - do you remember his last few seasons with us? Not exactly shit-hot & he was piss-poor at Real this season too - bar scoring a couple of important goals at the tail-end. He's not good enough for United & obviously the club think the same, hence loaning him to Real in the hope of gettin rid.

One season wonder scenario with that lad & his all-round footballing qualities surely dont fit into LvG's philosophy. He's technically very poor in build-up play & his only strength was his fox-in-the-box attributes, which dramatically waned after his 1st season..
 
MoBeats said:
If Chica is coming back, we've got him, Roo and RVP, as well as Depay. Do we need to waste any money on a striker? Are other positions far more important?
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Come on, you must be on a wind up. Chica is not good enough at the top level, other than a "last roll of the dice" option, RVP is clearly past his best as is Rooney. Those two scored 10 and 12 PL goals last season. You can't honestly believe that they are as good as Aguero or Costa, who play up front for our title rivals? Even Giroud scores more than those two these days and neither are dynamic enough to play the lone striker role.

Depay is a winger by the way.
 
Benteke might be a good shout for us . Proven prem player playing for a crap side that could be rotated with Rooney
 
England:

- Aguero, Costa (not a chance even if we were "interested")
- Kane (doesn't look likely at all, he seems set on staying for at least one more season, and personaly I'd prefer it that way than spending around 40 mil on a potential one season wonder, although I'm not saying that's the case)
- Austin, Ings & Berahino (simply not good enough, although Berahino does have the potential to become a very good player so there's that)
- Benteke (IMO could be worth a try, he had a fantastic season for a piss poor Aston Villa team before the injury, and now it seems like he's back to being the same sort of goal threat he used to be. Not exactly the 1st striker I'd sign, but I wouldn't exactly be dissapointed if we got him either, he's "proven" in the PL, however much that means to some of you, and he's still young and got room for improvement)

Italy:

- Tevez (no comments are necessary)
- Icardi (doubt he's leaving, and although he's had a good season I'm just not too convinced just yet)
- Higuain (don't want. would cost a fortune and although he's quality I'm not convinced, I think he'd struggle in the PL, and I wouldn't be prepared to risk it considering everything)
- Dybala (signed for Juve)
- Berardi (seems like a player with high potential, but definitely not good enough as of right now. Could be worth keeping an eye on him, that's all)

Spain:

- Neymar & Suarez (not going anywhere)
- Benzema (doesn't seem likely to leave. You never know with Real Madrid in all honesty, but I expect him to still be playing for them next season. Otherwise I'd love to see him here, IMO discounting Aguero & Suarez he would probably be my pick for the best striker right now. At the very least the best in his role as a lone striker, which just to happens to be what LvG's going for)
- Mandžukić (don't want him, don't see why we would even go in for him. He's not crap, but he was, isn't & won't ever be good enough for United IMO, other than warming the hypothetical bench)
- Bacca (seems like the perfect fit with Sevilla, don't imagine seeing him leave, and certainly wouldn't want him leading our line)
- Vietto & Alcacer (seem like good prospects, but I wouldn't want to rely on them if we got either, not to mention there doesn't seem to be anything remotely concrete in the way that it would make me think we're actualy geting either of them)

Germany:

- Lewandowski, Aubameyang (not going anywhere)
- Muller (as highly as I rate him, and I think he could be a great addition, I just don't see him leaving Bayern for anyone, atleast not right now)
- Dost (doesn't seem likely to leave and sure as hell wouldn't be near the top of my (and hopefully Van Gaal's) wishlist)

France:

- Lacazette (would be my 1st choice actualy, atleast in terms of realistic targets. Everything just seems to fit with this transfer, you could have him lead the line or play as a wide forward, he'd arguably get plenty of game time without actualy "demanding" it. He's quick, versatile, and a skilled finisher. Granted he's "exploded" onto the scene this year, but he wasn't too shaby last season either, so it's been a gradual progression, one that I expect to continue)
- Cavani (the more I look at this transfer, the more I could see it happening. I'd gladly take him over plenty of others, but I just have this fear he'll flop like Falcao if he were to come here. They're not the same players, I know, let's just say although he'd be welcome he'd also come at a great financial risk and he's not exactly 20-23 years old either. seems likelier than most others, but also riskier)
- Ibrahimović (too old, terrific player, but it's seriously too late now, not to mention it's as likely to happen as Carver getting the Real Madrid job)
- Gignac (too old and not likely)

Portugal:

- Martinez (sure, I'd love to sign a 28-year old Colombian striker after the season we just had. Jokes aside though we could get worse, but also significantly better IMO)


There's not much else to look at in the current talent pool for strikers. Seems rather dull, doesn't it?
 
Sparky Rhiwabon said:
Come on, you must be on a wind up. Chica is not good enough at the top level, other than a "last roll of the dice" option, RVP is clearly past his best as is Rooney. Those two scored 10 and 12 PL goals last season. You can't honestly believe that they are as good as Aguero or Costa, who play up front for our title rivals? Even Giroud scores more than those two these days and neither are dynamic enough to play the lone striker role.

Depay is a winger by the way.
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Not on a wind up at all. If we had the proper support and creativity behind Rooney or Chica I'm sure they'd be more prolific. My point is, we have more pressing concerns.
 
MoBeats said:
If Chica is coming back, we've got him, Roo and RVP, as well as Depay. Do we need to waste any money on a striker? Are other positions far more important?
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Because Rooney is 30 next season, RVP and falcao are past it, Depay is a developing talent who is a wide player, and Hernandez wants first team football.

The striker position is has much of a concern has the GK defence and midfield positions, because the age of the strikers have come full circle and that means a new striker is needed
 
MoBeats said:
Not on a wind up at all. If we had the proper support and creativity behind Rooney or Chica I'm sure they'd be more prolific. My point is, we have more pressing concerns.
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I'm not sure we do to be honest. As pressing, yes, but not more. Rooney is not good enough as a lone striker if we have any ambitions of challenging for the title simple as that.
 
OGkush said:
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This is a good summary.

Martinez - If we could get Martinez for a low transfer fee, this might be a worth a punt.
Keep him for 1 year. If it works great. If not, we sell him back to Porto or any other takers.

Cavani - I cant help but feel that this guy is not a 20 goal/season striker. We may a well re-hire Falcao or keep Chicarito.

The problem is that all the top top top strikers are tied up (as you stated in your post). So, we need to find a diamond in the rough.
Do you remember when we got Dwight Yorke? He was seen as average at Villa (12 goals scored, the season before he joined us). He came to Man Utd and together with Andy Cole and Beckham (the crossing machine), was unstoppable.

Juventus (who had arguably the best defence in the World at the time) tried and failed. Yorke and Cole were toying with defences, passing the ball between eachother, in front of the GK, taunting the defenders and GK - that was beautiful football - when strikers are so confident, they play with nonchalance.


Like Dwight Yorke, we will have to make an inspired signing, turning a good player, into a star player. I just don't think it is feasible to bring in a ready made "Galactico".
 
OGkush said:
England:

- Aguero, Costa (not a chance even if we were "interested")
- Kane (doesn't look likely at all, he seems set on staying for at least one more season, and personaly I'd prefer it that way than spending around 40 mil on a potential one season wonder, although I'm not saying that's the case)
- Austin, Ings & Berahino (simply not good enough, although Berahino does have the potential to become a very good player so there's that)
- Benteke (IMO could be worth a try, he had a fantastic season for a piss poor Aston Villa team before the injury, and now it seems like he's back to being the same sort of goal threat he used to be. Not exactly the 1st striker I'd sign, but I wouldn't exactly be dissapointed if we got him either, he's "proven" in the PL, however much that means to some of you, and he's still young and got room for improvement)

Italy:

- Tevez (no comments are necessary)
- Icardi (doubt he's leaving, and although he's had a good season I'm just not too convinced just yet)
- Higuain (don't want. would cost a fortune and although he's quality I'm not convinced, I think he'd struggle in the PL, and I wouldn't be prepared to risk it considering everything)
- Dybala (signed for Juve)
- Berardi (seems like a player with high potential, but definitely not good enough as of right now. Could be worth keeping an eye on him, that's all)

Spain:

- Neymar & Suarez (not going anywhere)
- Benzema (doesn't seem likely to leave. You never know with Real Madrid in all honesty, but I expect him to still be playing for them next season. Otherwise I'd love to see him here, IMO discounting Aguero & Suarez he would probably be my pick for the best striker right now. At the very least the best in his role as a lone striker, which just to happens to be what LvG's going for)
- Mandžukić (don't want him, don't see why we would even go in for him. He's not crap, but he was, isn't & won't ever be good enough for United IMO, other than warming the hypothetical bench)
- Bacca (seems like the perfect fit with Sevilla, don't imagine seeing him leave, and certainly wouldn't want him leading our line)
- Vietto & Alcacer (seem like good prospects, but I wouldn't want to rely on them if we got either, not to mention there doesn't seem to be anything remotely concrete in the way that it would make me think we're actualy geting either of them)

Germany:

- Lewandowski, Aubameyang (not going anywhere)
- Muller (as highly as I rate him, and I think he could be a great addition, I just don't see him leaving Bayern for anyone, atleast not right now)
- Dost (doesn't seem likely to leave and sure as hell wouldn't be near the top of my (and hopefully Van Gaal's) wishlist)

France:

- Lacazette (would be my 1st choice actualy, atleast in terms of realistic targets. Everything just seems to fit with this transfer, you could have him lead the line or play as a wide forward, he'd arguably get plenty of game time without actualy "demanding" it. He's quick, versatile, and a skilled finisher. Granted he's "exploded" onto the scene this year, but he wasn't too shaby last season either, so it's been a gradual progression, one that I expect to continue)
- Cavani (the more I look at this transfer, the more I could see it happening. I'd gladly take him over plenty of others, but I just have this fear he'll flop like Falcao if he were to come here. They're not the same players, I know, let's just say although he'd be welcome he'd also come at a great financial risk and he's not exactly 20-23 years old either. seems likelier than most others, but also riskier)
- Ibrahimović (too old, terrific player, but it's seriously too late now, not to mention it's as likely to happen as Carver getting the Real Madrid job)
- Gignac (too old and not likely)

Portugal:

- Martinez (sure, I'd love to sign a 28-year old Colombian striker after the season we just had. Jokes aside though we could get worse, but also significantly better IMO)


There's not much else to look at in the current talent pool for strikers. Seems rather dull, doesn't it?
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Nice to see a full list: Lewandowski, Benzema, Kane, in that order for me from the 'not totally impossible' list.
 
Gonzlo Higuain for me would be perfect No9 with WR10 in behind. Depay/Januzaj & Di Maria providing width and Kongdogbia & Pjanic pulling the strings in midfield.
 
I don't think we will buy any striker in the summer. The big problem with buying one is that we have to play Rooney in midfield and I don't think anybody wants that. It sucks, but unless we are switching to a 2 striker formation, I think we are stuck with Rooney which cannot be dropped because of his captain status.
 
ottosec said:
I don't think we will buy any striker in the summer. The big problem with buying one is that we have to play Rooney in midfield and I don't think anybody wants that. It sucks, but unless we are switching to a 2 striker formation, I think we are stuck with Rooney which cannot be dropped because of his captain status.
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I agree with the bulk of what you're saying but I'd say it's more like we wont buy a top striker, I am expecting an older striker who will be getting a huge hike in wages to come and rotate with Rooney and mostly sit on the bench. Someone like Bacca.
 
OGkush said:
England:

- Aguero, Costa (not a chance even if we were "interested")
- Kane (doesn't look likely at all, he seems set on staying for at least one more season, and personaly I'd prefer it that way than spending around 40 mil on a potential one season wonder, although I'm not saying that's the case)
- Austin, Ings & Berahino (simply not good enough, although Berahino does have the potential to become a very good player so there's that)
- Benteke (IMO could be worth a try, he had a fantastic season for a piss poor Aston Villa team before the injury, and now it seems like he's back to being the same sort of goal threat he used to be. Not exactly the 1st striker I'd sign, but I wouldn't exactly be dissapointed if we got him either, he's "proven" in the PL, however much that means to some of you, and he's still young and got room for improvement)

Italy:

- Tevez (no comments are necessary)
- Icardi (doubt he's leaving, and although he's had a good season I'm just not too convinced just yet)
- Higuain (don't want. would cost a fortune and although he's quality I'm not convinced, I think he'd struggle in the PL, and I wouldn't be prepared to risk it considering everything)
- Dybala (signed for Juve)
- Berardi (seems like a player with high potential, but definitely not good enough as of right now. Could be worth keeping an eye on him, that's all)

Spain:

- Neymar & Suarez (not going anywhere)
- Benzema (doesn't seem likely to leave. You never know with Real Madrid in all honesty, but I expect him to still be playing for them next season. Otherwise I'd love to see him here, IMO discounting Aguero & Suarez he would probably be my pick for the best striker right now. At the very least the best in his role as a lone striker, which just to happens to be what LvG's going for)
- Mandžukić (don't want him, don't see why we would even go in for him. He's not crap, but he was, isn't & won't ever be good enough for United IMO, other than warming the hypothetical bench)
- Bacca (seems like the perfect fit with Sevilla, don't imagine seeing him leave, and certainly wouldn't want him leading our line)
- Vietto & Alcacer (seem like good prospects, but I wouldn't want to rely on them if we got either, not to mention there doesn't seem to be anything remotely concrete in the way that it would make me think we're actualy geting either of them)

Germany:

- Lewandowski, Aubameyang (not going anywhere)
- Muller (as highly as I rate him, and I think he could be a great addition, I just don't see him leaving Bayern for anyone, atleast not right now)
- Dost (doesn't seem likely to leave and sure as hell wouldn't be near the top of my (and hopefully Van Gaal's) wishlist)

France:

- Lacazette (would be my 1st choice actualy, atleast in terms of realistic targets. Everything just seems to fit with this transfer, you could have him lead the line or play as a wide forward, he'd arguably get plenty of game time without actualy "demanding" it. He's quick, versatile, and a skilled finisher. Granted he's "exploded" onto the scene this year, but he wasn't too shaby last season either, so it's been a gradual progression, one that I expect to continue)
- Cavani (the more I look at this transfer, the more I could see it happening. I'd gladly take him over plenty of others, but I just have this fear he'll flop like Falcao if he were to come here. They're not the same players, I know, let's just say although he'd be welcome he'd also come at a great financial risk and he's not exactly 20-23 years old either. seems likelier than most others, but also riskier)
- Ibrahimović (too old, terrific player, but it's seriously too late now, not to mention it's as likely to happen as Carver getting the Real Madrid job)
- Gignac (too old and not likely)

Portugal:

- Martinez (sure, I'd love to sign a 28-year old Colombian striker after the season we just had. Jokes aside though we could get worse, but also significantly better IMO)


There's not much else to look at in the current talent pool for strikers. Seems rather dull, doesn't it?
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Is the glass ever half full with you???
 
Red Hand Devil said:
I could never understand the hype about him & still dont. Much prefer Benzema all day every day..
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Not for me, Higuain is one of the best finishers with both feet in the game, whether a chance falls to his right or left foot I always fancy him to score. Benzema is a good striker but he has had various chances to join united and always turned his nose up at it, even when fergie was here, so not for me.
 
Sparky Rhiwabon said:
Is the glass ever half full with you???
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why not try and elaborate yourself as to where I went wrong here instead of being a smartass.
there are some great wingers & midfielders out there, it is however undeniable that there's a derth of really talented strikers, and those that are at the top level all more or less seem to be tied up and going nowhere.

sunama said:
This is a good summary.

Martinez - If we could get Martinez for a low transfer fee, this might be a worth a punt.
Keep him for 1 year. If it works great. If not, we sell him back to Porto or any other takers.

Cavani - I cant help but feel that this guy is not a 20 goal/season striker. We may a well re-hire Falcao or keep Chicarito.

The problem is that all the top top top strikers are tied up (as you stated in your post). So, we need to find a diamond in the rough.
Do you remember when we got Dwight Yorke? He was seen as average at Villa (12 goals scored, the season before he joined us). He came to Man Utd and together with Andy Cole and Beckham (the crossing machine), was unstoppable.

Juventus (who had arguably the best defence in the World at the time) tried and failed. Yorke and Cole were toying with defences, passing the ball between eachother, in front of the GK, taunting the defenders and GK - that was beautiful football - when strikers are so confident, they play with nonchalance.


Like Dwight Yorke, we will have to make an inspired signing, turning a good player, into a star player. I just don't think it is feasible to bring in a ready made "Galactico".
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Thank you. and yes, it certainly seems that way. The thing is though; #1 the kind of partnership those 2 had is something I've really yet to see anywhere else, it was at times the best thing you could watch, so it shouldn't be expected to be duplicated, perhaps with the same end result, but more to do with individual brilliance at times. And #2 we don't play with 2 strikers anymore apparently, although you could argue with a legit starting striker, Rooney playing in behind would sort of be like 2 strikers.
In any case we are in need of one, with RvP preferably moving on.

JPRouve said:
@OGkush In France I would add Martial.
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You're right. I forgot about him.

C'est Moi Cantona said:
Nice to see a full list: Lewandowski, Benzema, Kane, in that order for me from the 'not totally impossible' list.
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Thank you.
 
I think we might end up hijacking the scousers bid for Benteke. Not too much else out there & if we're paying 30 mil for left backs then 30 mil for a second choice striker isn't an issue.
For some reason I lump the Belgians in with the Dutch with theLVG so there may be a link somehow (probably not).
 
Benteke's buyout clause is 32.5mn. Surely we can do better for that price?
 
OGkush said:
England:

- Aguero, Costa (not a chance even if we were "interested")
- Kane (doesn't look likely at all, he seems set on staying for at least one more season, and personaly I'd prefer it that way than spending around 40 mil on a potential one season wonder, although I'm not saying that's the case)
- Austin, Ings & Berahino (simply not good enough, although Berahino does have the potential to become a very good player so there's that)
- Benteke (IMO could be worth a try, he had a fantastic season for a piss poor Aston Villa team before the injury, and now it seems like he's back to being the same sort of goal threat he used to be. Not exactly the 1st striker I'd sign, but I wouldn't exactly be dissapointed if we got him either, he's "proven" in the PL, however much that means to some of you, and he's still young and got room for improvement)

Italy:

- Tevez (no comments are necessary)
- Icardi (doubt he's leaving, and although he's had a good season I'm just not too convinced just yet)
- Higuain (don't want. would cost a fortune and although he's quality I'm not convinced, I think he'd struggle in the PL, and I wouldn't be prepared to risk it considering everything)
- Dybala (signed for Juve)
- Berardi (seems like a player with high potential, but definitely not good enough as of right now. Could be worth keeping an eye on him, that's all)

Spain:

- Neymar & Suarez (not going anywhere)
- Benzema (doesn't seem likely to leave. You never know with Real Madrid in all honesty, but I expect him to still be playing for them next season. Otherwise I'd love to see him here, IMO discounting Aguero & Suarez he would probably be my pick for the best striker right now. At the very least the best in his role as a lone striker, which just to happens to be what LvG's going for)
- Mandžukić (don't want him, don't see why we would even go in for him. He's not crap, but he was, isn't & won't ever be good enough for United IMO, other than warming the hypothetical bench)
- Bacca (seems like the perfect fit with Sevilla, don't imagine seeing him leave, and certainly wouldn't want him leading our line)
- Vietto & Alcacer (seem like good prospects, but I wouldn't want to rely on them if we got either, not to mention there doesn't seem to be anything remotely concrete in the way that it would make me think we're actualy geting either of them)

Germany:

- Lewandowski, Aubameyang (not going anywhere)
- Muller (as highly as I rate him, and I think he could be a great addition, I just don't see him leaving Bayern for anyone, atleast not right now)
- Dost (doesn't seem likely to leave and sure as hell wouldn't be near the top of my (and hopefully Van Gaal's) wishlist)

France:

- Lacazette (would be my 1st choice actualy, atleast in terms of realistic targets. Everything just seems to fit with this transfer, you could have him lead the line or play as a wide forward, he'd arguably get plenty of game time without actualy "demanding" it. He's quick, versatile, and a skilled finisher. Granted he's "exploded" onto the scene this year, but he wasn't too shaby last season either, so it's been a gradual progression, one that I expect to continue)
- Cavani (the more I look at this transfer, the more I could see it happening. I'd gladly take him over plenty of others, but I just have this fear he'll flop like Falcao if he were to come here. They're not the same players, I know, let's just say although he'd be welcome he'd also come at a great financial risk and he's not exactly 20-23 years old either. seems likelier than most others, but also riskier)
- Ibrahimović (too old, terrific player, but it's seriously too late now, not to mention it's as likely to happen as Carver getting the Real Madrid job)
- Gignac (too old and not likely)

Portugal:

- Martinez (sure, I'd love to sign a 28-year old Colombian striker after the season we just had. Jokes aside though we could get worse, but also significantly better IMO)


There's not much else to look at in the current talent pool for strikers. Seems rather dull, doesn't it?
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Great list and I agree super dull. In the new world, outside rights and lefts up front in a 3 generate goals between them as oppose to a main striker. Delay, Rooney, Bale/?
 
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