Plus big signing on fees and wages. The vast majority here (including myself) will have never seen them play. The Caf said Sancho and VdB were 'all that', they aren't.You can buy Kamara and Zakaria for a combined 15-20m, but United dont think they are all that
Where are the United incomings?
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No big sign on fees before their contract expires ? And their wages wont be that big i would imagine. Both are cheap and we could sell them for profit later, or turn them into squad players if they are not good enough for the first team. Sancho and VDB was much more expensive signings as well
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They can ask for whatever they want if their contracts are expiring in the summer otherwise they would be daft not to wait. I've been calling for a CM as priority far longer than most but we want the right players not just anyone to make up the numbers.
Wow I’m shocked there’s so many posts justifying that we don’t buy any players. I know we have spent a lot but, they spent it terribly. Would one extra midfielder ruin the squad?
The Glazers literally just took dividend last week. Surely if we have money for that then we have money for transfers??
Look at Newcastle, they need players to keep them up so they go and buy players. We desperately need players to help us top 4.
The Glazers literally just took dividend last week. Surely if we have money for that then we have money for transfers??
Look at Newcastle, they need players to keep them up so they go and buy players. We desperately need players to help us top 4.
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Doubt none of them would ask anything big, or anything near what we are giving the crap we already have. Good enough or not, both are valued at around 30m, with great potensial according to scouting networks. So there are no risk to those type of signings for 10m each. We desperately need to get top 4 this season. Our position atm is bad, and only doing outgoings will not improve those odds.
Sancho. We back to rushing judgment on young players?
The Glazers took a debt free club and saddled it with this enormous debt.
Those idiots who keep defending them saying 'they spent millions' know feck all.
They did not spend a penny of their own money.
And the clubs money? As you say. They spent it terribly.
Now only monsters like the Saudis can afford to buy the club.
The probability of the club being bought by an owner who actually is interested in Manchester United Football Club is remote because who can pay billions to buy it even if they want to?
The manager hires since Fergie have been terrible.
Mourinho was the nearest to being quality. But he was on his downward slope when we got him.
And Ole was a ridiculous appointment.
Finally they fluked Ralf.
If he is not backed with a CDM, we will not achieve any of the goals this season.
What we have does not cut it.
I'm not saying he won't come good but it could hardly have gone worse so far let's be honest, compared to what experts on here said.
We're talking short term here and he's a prime example that a Bundesliga signing is unlikely to have a major impact on the rest of our season.
Haven't been so far. But the Caf has a tendency to sit and look at the grass in the field next door with envy.
kamara looks a decent holding player, maybe he'd be worth a punt, but he may well take year to settle and be a waste of space this season. Who knows.
If Ole was allowed to sign Ighalo then Ralf should be allowed to sign some cheap short-term option at least.
No value in the market.We are run by incompetent idiots, so nothing surprising here. All we hear is January is difficult bla bla bla, yet our best buy in recent history was done in January. Juve buys the top scorer of the league in Italy, Liverpool go and but a 50m winger from Porto when they already have Mane and Salah, but not we can't find a better midfielder than Fred and McT.
Isn't Ruben Neves available for 40M? He'd be an upgrade for sure. Won't solve the whole lack of defensive midfielder issue, but would surely be a starter here?
If we are actually going to keep playing 433 then we definitely need a proper DM. Another better box to box would be nice too but probably not happening until Donny Lingard etc are fully sold/have left on a free.
I agree with what your saying but we know that we’re going to spend 100 million on rice in the summer who clearly isn’t available in January.
that’s the plan. Rice. 100million.
not a fan of the glazers but you can’t tell me they don’t spend money on players. They do.
It’s interesting how everyone wants Zakira and Kamara citing they are really cheap.
We are still trying to trim down a squad that contains a mix of various different players from different regimes that don’t fit. Getting players in now just for the sake of it and without doing due diligence is plain daft and only creates issues down the road.
If we can get some one in, great. They have to be the right fit though or it’s another waste of time and potentially a van de Beek scenario.
We are still trying to trim down a squad that contains a mix of various different players from different regimes that don’t fit. Getting players in now just for the sake of it and without doing due diligence is plain daft and only creates issues down the road.
If we can get some one in, great. They have to be the right fit though or it’s another waste of time and potentially a van de Beek scenario.
Anyone better than Matic is an upgrade. We do not have another specialist CDM. Neves McTominay Pogba is a very balanced midfield. Right now Matic is our only backup and we have a real fight on our hands to finish top 4. Unbelievable.
The damage was done when we floated the club. This made us vulnerable to be bought by anyone. The club was bought by businessmen and unfortunately, it is theirs to do with as they want including how it generates them money.
I guess hindsight is an exact science and as fans, we have the benefit of commenting on things that have happened than in the here and now.…..
Fair point, I think that exists on some levels but then you have others like De Bruyne who hit the ground running. Unfortunately for Sancho, he didn't' quite have the foundation in place as De Bruyne had to succeed. I think you could make an argument that Sancho was exceptional in Germany at a level similar to De Bruyne at Wolfsburg but coming to United with the low standard of coaching in place at the time has slowed his development. I am certain Sancho will succeed and I think he will have a substantial impact at some point with Rangnick in charge.
Agree, peoples hatred of Fred and Scott, they would play the groundsman at CDM. The funny thing is we know how hard it is to sign players in general and how long it takes to get use to new country, league, team, players, manager. Its hard even when you come from a team in this league. Do people think Zakira and Kamara going to turn into prime Kante from Feb to May? By the time they are up to speed, the season would probably be over. If people are fed up of McFred, why take a risk to buy players that generally might not be no better?
If we want to be serious, lets buy a Rice who we know can play 6 and proven prem experience. I’d sooner wait, especially when the new manager might need to have some say.
Ed Woodward's last hurrah?
We're going to sign feck all.
Or a player who didn't want to move there (at the time).
Donny was £35m and Amad £19, hardly the £80m you're making up.
Seems like 0 incomings or they’ll pull a Bruno and bring in Brozovic and Kessie on the last day after fans riot at Ed’s house
Dont think we're signing any one before we get a manager. I think we're in decent shape between McFred, Bruno and Pogba ( provided he stays fit ). Matic can chip in a few performances against slower teams. The last thing we want is to sign players on big wages ( if we get them on a free ) who the next manager wont fancy and now we have the new VDB situation all over again.
With Ralf playing 4-3-3, I guess he seems no need for any new midfielders.
Scott plays in the number 6 role with Matic his backup and then you have Fred and Bruno as 8's with Pogba to get back into contention also
Scott plays in the number 6 role with Matic his backup and then you have Fred and Bruno as 8's with Pogba to get back into contention also
A Football club is not like any other business.
I have commented on the roles played by Edwards and the FA.
The FA primarily failed to act as gatekeepers in the interest of the sport and supporters. In comparison the Saudi purchase of Newcastle looks far worse.
But we are splitting hairs.
It has nothing to do with hindsight. We knew then. We see the results now.
My quiz mate was saying something tonight about seeing on Sky that Utd were trying to do a deal before Monday. Personally I don't know where on earth he's getting this from at all.
The latest on Neves is we are 5 million short of what they are asking.
They will be coming in the summer once the new manager is on board!
Why do people struggle with this?
Why do people struggle with this?
Onto the mcfred thread!
My guess is, Ragnick is very happy with our midfield options (Mctominay - future Man Utd captain, Fred - one of the best pressing midfielder in the league, Pogba - back from injury soon, and of course Bruno too), so he probably feel no new midfielder signing is needed.
To be fair, Donny was 35m+5m, Amad was 25m+15m. So the combined totally could potentially/likely to reach 80m, if including add-ons.
Its evident that we need a CM
Amad was €41,000,000. The initial fee was what your quoting €21,000,000. I stand corrected on Donny. Even so £75 mill, an absolute shocking waste of resources.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.c.../amad-diallo-man-united-transfer-19678151.amp
They haven’t fluked Ralf at all. It’s also a terrible appointment. Someone who hasn’t managed a big club, hasn’t actually managed for years and hasn’t been very successful as a manager.
Agree. They did fluke Ralf as well because they had no intention of sacking Ole, it’s just fan and media pressure became untenable. They allowed the season to go up in smoke they were so reluctant to do it.
It seems we are copying the exact same mistake we made with Mourinho. We didn’t back him with transfers. It’s totally wrong that Ralf can’t even buy a budget midfielder, especially when we are struggling for top 4 and it could make a big difference.
Talk today that Pogba is in line for a new contract. Another contract extension to avoid buying a new player. If that happens then it confirms nothing has changed with the Glazers in full control, the DOF and Ralf having power is BS.
Half of that €41m is based on variables, the fixed fee was around €19m