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We’re all Negan.Savic is kinda shite, though.
Also, I am Negan.
We’re all Negan.Savic is kinda shite, though.
Also, I am Negan.
Of course you can especially in a team that uses a lot of players like us. They are on the bench because they were just as inconsistent whilst being inferior than the starting players. Just look at those players that doesn't really start much. They've never really strung up three to four consistent performances, otherwise, they'd be in the team. You can at least trust the 'non-main' players to get the job done.
He's being a success of course. Not 89m success, but relative to our other signings post Fergie, he's being a roaring success. He'd only be considered a flop if we stupid sell him this year or the next i.e early. If he maintains this level of performances for years, then he'd be considered nothing but a success. A bargain.
You say that in hindsight. I doubt you said those things when we signed them. They were players we actually needed, signed for prices you'd consider the standard for good players back then. We expected them to be good and consistent, but they ended up average.
Oh yes! I agree but I think that was pre-Salah when they usually struggled to break down tough teams. Last season, they were so much better at that iirc with Salah, Firmino firing and Mane working really hard to find form whilst providing support. Coutinho was just part of the fab four. The one that wouldn't stop being linked to Barcelona
It's the result of playing in a poorly drilled/inconsistent team. In a team where workhorses are reliable to outperform the talented footballers. Can you think of any game Pogba has played badly despite the team playing really well?
Almost all our other players have been inconsistent with their performances. Why not start with the inconsistent inferior ones, rather
than the superior one. Or perhaps that's because he's the easier target?
That people say so doesn't really make it true. He played in a midfield two at the World cup and delivered a phenomenal tournament performance.
The truth is the manager has ultimately being unable to get the best out of him, just like the other players.
It's the team and the manager's problem. Play a 4231 and everyone will be pointing out how Lukaku looks isolated, how Sanchez is finished on the wing, how our RW is not functioning, how our defence looks exposed. I remember him performing consistently with just Herrera.
Urgh. Why do I come here?
PSG -> Rabiot + Draxler could be interesting for both sides I think
What's funny ? They are both quality players, and Pogba's value ain't that high.
People telling things like "straight swap for MBappé" or "Dybala + player + player" are totally high IMO.
Two birds with one stone when we get rid of Pogba next summer. First is to rid the club of the viral infection that is Raiola and Second is to rid the club of a luxury player who can only perform when he is not the main star in a midfield and surrounded by Pirlo's and Kante's.
Ruben Neves has proven in a handful of premier league appearances that he is a PL legend in the making. Pogba after a handful of years has yet to prove on a consistent basis that he can become the same. He'll become a superstar at Barca as he will have the likes of Busquests, Arthur, Vidal and probably Saul Niguez next season to compensate for his flashes of brilliance and lack of consistency.
Let's hope his value gets based on his World Cup performances.If you base his value on his performances for United since he signed for us I would say he is a £30mill player. Unfortunately we paid a world record fee for him and that coupled with the lack of top class players in our squad seems to have warped people's perspective of how good he is. If we could get out money back I would see that as the 2nd best piece of transfer business ever done, Juventus selling him to us for 80odd Million after getting him on a free obviously being the greatest transfer deal ever. If we could get £40 Million I would cut out losses and sell.
I think sir you are the one going to be the one with egg on your chin very soon. It's like Jorginho, Naby Keita, Lucas Moura or Richarlison - just from a handful of appearances you just know very big things are coming from them.Been on holiday to come back to this same old crap rhetoric. Handful of PL games and he's calling Neves a potential PL legend. This stuff is embarrassing....
Had a whole lot of stuff to say on this but decide to tone it down to.....feck right off!!!!Hot take incoming...
But based on current squads and managers, I would think Chelsea and Man Utd teams would both benefit greatly by swapping Pogba for Kante.
Kante provides a crazy amount of comfort to attackers to push on and will greatly liberate Man Utd attack more so than the likes of Matic. He is also prompt with his passing.
Pogba is more of the CM that Sarri needs at CM than Kante's amazing skillset can provide.
Not that I am advocating the trade as Kante is one of my personal favs..Just a thought!
Anyway Rabiot is more of a drama queen than Pogba, and Draxler is one of the most inconsistent players around
£150m + Dembele and Umtiti and they can have José for free.
Over £120m and a player thrown in. I'd take £110m and Dembele from Barcelona.
Been on holiday to come back to this same old crap rhetoric. Handful of PL games and he's calling Neves a potential PL legend. This stuff is embarrassing....
Point taken but Sanchez is absolute crapand he gets paid ½million pounds per week net!Pogba is a good player but expecting a world record fee for a player who blows hot and cold, doesn't score nor create with any great efficiency is just wrong.
Point taken but Sanchez is absolute crapand he gets paid ½million pounds per week net!
This might be sacrilegious to some but since the rumours are in full flow, it might be interesting to know if there are offers some would find acceptable?
Would people take Dybala+Sandro? Dembele+50m? 150m?
My own opinion is a bit contradictory. On the one hand I don't think he's proved that he's world class, but he's obviously got immense talent. His mentality could hinder him from realising his potential but then again he's super marketable and a household name already. Given the way the market has gone and his length of contract, in terms of numbers I think we should get double what we paid. I'd be tempted by Sandro+Dybala though.
If we could make it part of a deal that Raiola gets f all, then that would certainly sweeten the deal.
Still think it's all play to get a new bumper contract. However, if there is some truth in the rumors, then I would prefer he goes to Juventus as they have more players I would want in our team.
Juventus:
Darmian + Pogba for Dybala, Pjanic, Mandzukic & Sandro
Barcelona:
£175m + Rakitic
With Barca as the buying party I would actually accept Dembele + Rakitic.
With PSG as buyer, straight swap with Mbappe would be quite acceptable.
With Juve as buyer, Pjanic, Sandro and Dybala would be acceptable.
With RM as buyer, Varane and Kroos would be OK.
Straight cash offer: 170 ++
Agree with all this, and pogba has a mentality problem which not many top teams will want in their squad. I still maintain he hasnt got a good engine he can only pull a big effort out in about one in five games. I also thought he was made to look better in the French teams by having really good players around him. It would astonish me if we got back what we paid for him. I really hope he goes, he splits and drags the team down.If you base his value on his performances for United since he signed for us I would say he is a £30mill player. Unfortunately we paid a world record fee for him and that coupled with the lack of top class players in our squad seems to have warped people's perspective of how good he is. If we could get out money back I would see that as the 2nd best piece of transfer business ever done, Juventus selling him to us for 80odd Million after getting him on a free obviously being the greatest transfer deal ever. If we could get £40 Million I would cut out losses and sell.
Face of the club !! Not in my eyes He is not, don't care if he has won the WC he needs to start playing like we know he can.sorry but if jose cant get the same out of pogba that dechamnps did , he should be the one to go ....pogba , face it or not is the face of the club , its up to jose to get the best out of him
None of our players have....Face of the club !! Not in my eyes He is not, don't care if he has won the WC he needs to start playing like we know he can.
He has not improved, since he came here, was not that impressed with him in the WC.
For me and slate me if you want, he is the most overrated player in the world right now.
We will be lucky to get back what we paid for him.
Utter nonsense.He’s been absolutely shocking for us, we’d do well to recoup what we paid for him let alone some of the crazy deals mentioned in here.
‘Darmian + Pogba for Dybala, Pjanic, Mandzukic & Sandro’
On what planet is that going to happen? Why on earth would Juve agree to that?
I think sir you are the one going to be the one with egg on your chin very soon. It's like Jorginho, Naby Keita, Lucas Moura or Richarlison - just from a handful of appearances you just know very big things are coming from them.
Talk down Pogba and then mention Pulisic.No more then £100m, he's still relatively young and we can use the argument that everyone seems to believe - that's he's world class and badly used by Mou. I actually disagree and think he's an overhyped player - way too inconsistent and mentally weak to be world class but comfortbaly in the bracket below.
Stop trying to think of innovative swap deals, he should just be sold and then we should bring in someone like Pulisic.
Pogba is being severely overrated IMO. I doubt Juve would even consider a straight swap between Pogba and Dybala (maybe they will today seeing as Dybala isnt playing that much because Allegri is strugling to put him and Cristiano at the same time), let alone adding Sandro and Pjanic.