What would be an acceptable offer for Pogba?

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Of course you can especially in a team that uses a lot of players like us. They are on the bench because they were just as inconsistent whilst being inferior than the starting players. Just look at those players that doesn't really start much. They've never really strung up three to four consistent performances, otherwise, they'd be in the team. You can at least trust the 'non-main' players to get the job done.



He's being a success of course. Not 89m success, but relative to our other signings post Fergie, he's being a roaring success. He'd only be considered a flop if we stupid sell him this year or the next i.e early. If he maintains this level of performances for years, then he'd be considered nothing but a success. A bargain.

You say that in hindsight. I doubt you said those things when we signed them. They were players we actually needed, signed for prices you'd consider the standard for good players back then. We expected them to be good and consistent, but they ended up average.
Oh yes! I agree but I think that was pre-Salah when they usually struggled to break down tough teams. Last season, they were so much better at that iirc with Salah, Firmino firing and Mane working really hard to find form whilst providing support. Coutinho was just part of the fab four. The one that wouldn't stop being linked to Barcelona


It's the result of playing in a poorly drilled/inconsistent team. In a team where workhorses are reliable to outperform the talented footballers. Can you think of any game Pogba has played badly despite the team playing really well?
Almost all our other players have been inconsistent with their performances. Why not start with the inconsistent inferior ones, rather
than the superior one. Or perhaps that's because he's the easier target?

That people say so doesn't really make it true. He played in a midfield two at the World cup and delivered a phenomenal tournament performance.
The truth is the manager has ultimately being unable to get the best out of him, just like the other players.
It's the team and the manager's problem. Play a 4231 and everyone will be pointing out how Lukaku looks isolated, how Sanchez is finished on the wing, how our RW is not functioning, how our defence looks exposed. I remember him performing consistently with just Herrera.

Pogba being a success is news to me. Roaring success with regards to other signings!!! Seriously???

I'd consider Lukaku, Matic, Lingard (not a signing but still), Daley Blind (reliable and underrated, also got our money back after getting 4 seasons out of him) to be successes. All this talk of tactics and he's not surrounded by quality etc. is not something that I subscribe to. On his day Pogba brings a lot to the table, but most of the stuff that he does is the flashy stuff - pinging cross field diagonal balls, shooting from 35 yards, out-muscling players but you have to remember that almost 80% of the time these things are not happening and he'll be jogging around trying to hold the ball and then not able to make a pass or loosing possession. He looks more like a Fellaini with finesse during these times. Off-field antics are another con with him. His agent being another one. The dilemma is that we don't have any other midfielder like him to push him and so we're forced to play him regardless of his form. I really hope Fred makes the 2nd spot his own alongside Matic to reduce this dependency on Pogba and wouldn't mind Jesse taking that third midfield role. That lad is way too underrated!
 

What's funny ? They are both quality players, and Pogba's value ain't that high.
People telling things like "straight swap for MBappé" or "Dybala + player + player" are totally high IMO.
 
What's funny ? They are both quality players, and Pogba's value ain't that high.
People telling things like "straight swap for MBappé" or "Dybala + player + player" are totally high IMO.

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Anyway Rabiot is more of a drama queen than Pogba, and Draxler is one of the most inconsistent players around
 
Two birds with one stone when we get rid of Pogba next summer. First is to rid the club of the viral infection that is Raiola and Second is to rid the club of a luxury player who can only perform when he is not the main star in a midfield and surrounded by Pirlo's and Kante's.

Ruben Neves has proven in a handful of premier league appearances that he is a PL legend in the making. Pogba after a handful of years has yet to prove on a consistent basis that he can become the same. He'll become a superstar at Barca as he will have the likes of Busquests, Arthur, Vidal and probably Saul Niguez next season to compensate for his flashes of brilliance and lack of consistency.
 
Two birds with one stone when we get rid of Pogba next summer. First is to rid the club of the viral infection that is Raiola and Second is to rid the club of a luxury player who can only perform when he is not the main star in a midfield and surrounded by Pirlo's and Kante's.

Ruben Neves has proven in a handful of premier league appearances that he is a PL legend in the making. Pogba after a handful of years has yet to prove on a consistent basis that he can become the same. He'll become a superstar at Barca as he will have the likes of Busquests, Arthur, Vidal and probably Saul Niguez next season to compensate for his flashes of brilliance and lack of consistency.

Been on holiday to come back to this same old crap rhetoric. Handful of PL games and he's calling Neves a potential PL legend. This stuff is embarrassing....
 
If he has to leave, get Dembele + a load of cash and then use the money to sign Tanguy Ndombele as a replacement.
 
If you base his value on his performances for United since he signed for us I would say he is a £30mill player. Unfortunately we paid a world record fee for him and that coupled with the lack of top class players in our squad seems to have warped people's perspective of how good he is. If we could get out money back I would see that as the 2nd best piece of transfer business ever done, Juventus selling him to us for 80odd Million after getting him on a free obviously being the greatest transfer deal ever. If we could get £40 Million I would cut out losses and sell.
 
If you base his value on his performances for United since he signed for us I would say he is a £30mill player. Unfortunately we paid a world record fee for him and that coupled with the lack of top class players in our squad seems to have warped people's perspective of how good he is. If we could get out money back I would see that as the 2nd best piece of transfer business ever done, Juventus selling him to us for 80odd Million after getting him on a free obviously being the greatest transfer deal ever. If we could get £40 Million I would cut out losses and sell.
Let's hope his value gets based on his World Cup performances.
 
Been on holiday to come back to this same old crap rhetoric. Handful of PL games and he's calling Neves a potential PL legend. This stuff is embarrassing....
I think sir you are the one going to be the one with egg on your chin very soon. It's like Jorginho, Naby Keita, Lucas Moura or Richarlison - just from a handful of appearances you just know very big things are coming from them.
 
Hot take incoming...

But based on current squads and managers, I would think Chelsea and Man Utd teams would both benefit greatly by swapping Pogba for Kante.

Kante provides a crazy amount of comfort to attackers to push on and will greatly liberate Man Utd attack more so than the likes of Matic. He is also prompt with his passing.

Pogba is more of the CM that Sarri needs at CM than Kante's amazing skillset can provide.

Not that I am advocating the trade as Kante is one of my personal favs..Just a thought!
Had a whole lot of stuff to say on this but decide to tone it down to.....feck right off!!!!

Only reason I'll take Pogba at Chelsea is if we fail to make Kovacic deal permanent.
 
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Anyway Rabiot is more of a drama queen than Pogba, and Draxler is one of the most inconsistent players around

I could answer you that Pogba is very inconsistent too.
Drama queen + inconsistency, Rabiot + Draxler, it adds up !

£150m + Dembele and Umtiti and they can have José for free.
Over £120m and a player thrown in. I'd take £110m and Dembele from Barcelona.

Seriously, stop the weed :D
 
:lol: Dembele and £100m+ ? You do understand how football works, right?

Still- You should get rid of your manager before you get rid of a quality player like Pogba.
 
Pogba is a good player but expecting a world record fee for a player who blows hot and cold, doesn't score nor create with any great efficiency is just wrong.
Point taken but Sanchez is absolute crapand he gets paid ½million pounds per week net!
 
This might be sacrilegious to some but since the rumours are in full flow, it might be interesting to know if there are offers some would find acceptable?

Would people take Dybala+Sandro? Dembele+50m? 150m?

My own opinion is a bit contradictory. On the one hand I don't think he's proved that he's world class, but he's obviously got immense talent. His mentality could hinder him from realising his potential but then again he's super marketable and a household name already. Given the way the market has gone and his length of contract, in terms of numbers I think we should get double what we paid. I'd be tempted by Sandro+Dybala though.

If we could make it part of a deal that Raiola gets f all, then that would certainly sweeten the deal.

Still think it's all play to get a new bumper contract. However, if there is some truth in the rumors, then I would prefer he goes to Juventus as they have more players I would want in our team.

Juventus:

Darmian + Pogba for Dybala, Pjanic, Mandzukic & Sandro

Barcelona:

£175m + Rakitic

With Barca as the buying party I would actually accept Dembele + Rakitic.
With PSG as buyer, straight swap with Mbappe would be quite acceptable.
With Juve as buyer, Pjanic, Sandro and Dybala would be acceptable.
With RM as buyer, Varane and Kroos would be OK.

Straight cash offer: 170 ++

Pogba is being severely overrated IMO. I doubt Juve would even consider a straight swap between Pogba and Dybala (maybe they will today seeing as Dybala isnt playing that much because Allegri is strugling to put him and Cristiano at the same time), let alone adding Sandro and Pjanic.
 
If you base his value on his performances for United since he signed for us I would say he is a £30mill player. Unfortunately we paid a world record fee for him and that coupled with the lack of top class players in our squad seems to have warped people's perspective of how good he is. If we could get out money back I would see that as the 2nd best piece of transfer business ever done, Juventus selling him to us for 80odd Million after getting him on a free obviously being the greatest transfer deal ever. If we could get £40 Million I would cut out losses and sell.
Agree with all this, and pogba has a mentality problem which not many top teams will want in their squad. I still maintain he hasnt got a good engine he can only pull a big effort out in about one in five games. I also thought he was made to look better in the French teams by having really good players around him. It would astonish me if we got back what we paid for him. I really hope he goes, he splits and drags the team down.
 
He’s been absolutely shocking for us, we’d do well to recoup what we paid for him let alone some of the crazy deals mentioned in here.

‘Darmian + Pogba for Dybala, Pjanic, Mandzukic & Sandro’

On what planet is that going to happen? Why on earth would Juve agree to that? :lol::lol:
 
sorry but if jose cant get the same out of pogba that dechamnps did , he should be the one to go ....pogba , face it or not is the face of the club , its up to jose to get the best out of him
Face of the club !! Not in my eyes He is not, don't care if he has won the WC he needs to start playing like we know he can.
He has not improved, since he came here, was not that impressed with him in the WC.
For me and slate me if you want, he is the most overrated player in the world right now.
We will be lucky to get back what we paid for him.
 
The stats really don't back up the opinion he's been "absolutely shocking for us". He's been very frustrating, and he can be annoying to watch, but we are so much worse without him.
 
Face of the club !! Not in my eyes He is not, don't care if he has won the WC he needs to start playing like we know he can.
He has not improved, since he came here, was not that impressed with him in the WC.
For me and slate me if you want, he is the most overrated player in the world right now.
We will be lucky to get back what we paid for him.
None of our players have....
 
He’s been absolutely shocking for us, we’d do well to recoup what we paid for him let alone some of the crazy deals mentioned in here.

‘Darmian + Pogba for Dybala, Pjanic, Mandzukic & Sandro’

On what planet is that going to happen? Why on earth would Juve agree to that? :lol::lol:
Utter nonsense.
 
No more then £100m, he's still relatively young and we can use the argument that everyone seems to believe - that's he's world class and badly used by Mou. I actually disagree and think he's an overhyped player - way too inconsistent and mentally weak to be world class but comfortbaly in the bracket below.

Stop trying to think of innovative swap deals, he should just be sold and then we should bring in someone like Pulisic.
 
He is a good player, not a great one. Anything over £100m, considering his inconsistency at United as well as his the behaviour of his agent, would be a good deal for both United and the buyer.
 
I would say 120 million plus a player (A decent one of course) would be good. But an ideal world would be that Pogba lives up to hype with united as well as france.
 
I think sir you are the one going to be the one with egg on your chin very soon. It's like Jorginho, Naby Keita, Lucas Moura or Richarlison - just from a handful of appearances you just know very big things are coming from them.

Nobody wants to be putting egg on anyone's chin to be fair but I feel like the list of players used to prove the point actually serves to do the opposite?
Jorginho, keita and moura all had fairly booming reputations to begin with and the other lad cost over 50 million.
I'm just not really sure about the point of the whole thing.
 
No more then £100m, he's still relatively young and we can use the argument that everyone seems to believe - that's he's world class and badly used by Mou. I actually disagree and think he's an overhyped player - way too inconsistent and mentally weak to be world class but comfortbaly in the bracket below.

Stop trying to think of innovative swap deals, he should just be sold and then we should bring in someone like Pulisic.
Talk down Pogba and then mention Pulisic.
 
Pogba would fetch £150m easily. Remember , clubs are buying the brand as a whole and not just the player. It's a thing in todays world.
 
Pogba is being severely overrated IMO. I doubt Juve would even consider a straight swap between Pogba and Dybala (maybe they will today seeing as Dybala isnt playing that much because Allegri is strugling to put him and Cristiano at the same time), let alone adding Sandro and Pjanic.

All these suggestions of £100m plus players is beyond a joke! When we bought Pogba he was considered one of the best players in the world, but given his inconsistency for us, you really can’t claim that anymore. The talent is clearly there, but we are still talking about him needing to take it to the next level. That’s not good enough.

If one of the Spanish clubs offered £100m, I think that would be enough. He’s a player who looks like he wants to go.
 
Depends what team he actually goes to. He's probably in the top 5 most marketable players in the world (which he has us to thank for) so he's worth at least £150-£175 million in my opinion.

  • Real Madrid: Bale or Casemiro plus £50 million
  • Barca: Can't see them willing to part with that sort of cash and beyond their staring XI there's nobody we need
  • PSG: Straight swap for Mbappe
  • Juve: Dybala straight swap or Chiellini plus £80 million

This is what I would like to see when he soon goes to one of those teams. Most likely destinition in my opinion is Real Madrid who will want to replace an aging Modric sooner rather than later.
 
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