What is Luis Suarez worth?

What's the most disturbing is he's actually great to watch when he's not throwing his tantrums. For pure entertainment value Suarez's the best in the league.

It hurts seeing Liverpool play like that. Hope they miss out on top four and Suarez goes to Madrid or Bayern in the summer.
 
Just checking his club career and he's forced transfers before(Groningen). I suspect he'll be a Madrid player come end of summer.
 
marjen said:
What's the most disturbing is he's actually great to watch when he's not throwing his tantrums. For pure entertainment value Suarez's the best in the league.

It hurts seeing Liverpool play like that. Hope they miss out on top four and Suarez goes to Madrid or Bayern in the summer.
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He has always had that bit of magic in his boots. I think it was a couple of years ago at Anfield when he dribbled past 5 of our players in the box and set up Kuyt? Can't remember. I remember thinking at the time we were pathetic letting Suarez wriggle through our defence but he seems to do it time and time again.

This seasons he has stepped it up in terms of his finishing and also his long range efforts (incl. free kicks) - in other words become a complete package.
 
Cina said:
I can see why the majority would rate Suarez higher, there's just something about Aguero for me, he makes it all look so effortless at times, I also think he's got a better overall game in terms of his contribution, although right now Suarez is definitely the better goalscorer.
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I think the thing with Aguero is that he has got all the talent, and ability wise on paper is one of the best in the league. He just hasn't consistently delivered goals and performances over a prolonged period of time (most notably last season) which has hurt his reputation to the extent he is not up there with the likes of Suarez, RvP, Bale (last season).
 
wonnie said:
I think the thing with Aguero is that he has got all the talent, and ability wise on paper is one of the best in the league. He just hasn't consistently delivered goals and performances over a prolonged period of time (most notably last season) which has hurt his reputation to the extent he is not up there with the likes of Suarez, RvP, Bale (last season).
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Last season he certainly wasn't great but in his debut season he scored 30+ goals which was a fantastic return, and this season he's arguably been City's best player, consistently.
 
Suarez is obviously a brilliant player, but the claim that he is among the top two or three players in the world is based pretty much on his form this season. You can't go making claims like that on the basis of just 11 games. Prior to this season, his record at Liverpool was good, but it hardly set him apart from probably a dozen or so of the top players in Europe behind the top tier (Messi and Ronaldo). In fact prior to this season, you would almost certainly not have put him in a top 10 list, unless you were a Liverpool fan.
 
R.N7 said:
He'll break records this season if he manages to stay fit/not banned. I just hope a bigger club will be in for the cnut as soon as possible.
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There seems to be a general opinion that Liverpool will crash & burn should Suarez leave the club. We picked up 23 points out of a possible 30 during his 10 match ban, with one of those matches being a 6-0 win away at Newcastle. Maybe Rodgers, & how he sets up his side, should get some of the credit for how the lad is currently scoring for fun. Should we get into the CL & he does leave, at least we'll have the compensation of having a fair chunk of money to help strengthen the squad. Along with the fact that a side playing in the CL can generally attract the better quality players.
 
retardman5 said:
There seems to be a general opinion that Liverpool will crash & burn should Suarez leave the club. We picked up 23 points out of a possible 30 during his 10 match ban, with one of those matches being a 6-0 win away at Newcastle. Maybe Rodgers, & how he sets up his side, should get some of the credit for how the lad is currently scoring for fun. Should we get into the CL & he does leave, at least we'll have the compensation of having a fair chunk of money to help strengthen the squad. Along with the fact that a side playing in the CL can generally attract the better quality players.
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In your dreams.
 
retardman5 said:
You don't rate our chances then ?
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Not very much. I'm pretty certain Arsenal, Chelsea and City will finish in the top 4 so I think the question of 4th place boils down to United or Liverpool. Even though our start has been awful, we still pretty much have same team that walked to the title last season (minus a few injured players). The idea that we'll fail to finish 4th is unthinkable. And you're still Liverpool, when it comes down to it. You'll feck up eventually.
 
rednev said:
Not very much. I'm pretty certain Arsenal, Chelsea and City will finish in the top 4 so I think the question of 4th place boils down to United or Liverpool. Even though our start has been awful, will still pretty much have same team that walked to the title last season (minus a few injured players). The idea that we'll fail to finish 4th is unthinkable. And you're still Liverpool, when it comes down to it. You'll feck up eventually.
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If Suarez gets injured I expect them to really struggle.
 
rednev said:
Not very much. I'm pretty certain Arsenal, Chelsea and City will finish in the top 4 so I think the question of 4th place boils down to United or Liverpool. Even though our start has been awful, will still pretty much have same team that walked to the title last season (minus a few injured players). The idea that we'll fail to finish 4th is unthinkable. And you're still Liverpool, when it comes down to it. You'll feck up eventually.
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81 points from our last 38 Premiership games - 10 of those games without Suarez - scored feck knows how many goals, & played some exceptional football in the process. Sorry mate, but - 'you're still Liverpool' - is a bit of straw clutching as far as I'm concerned. The last time we had 33 points after 16 games was back in 2002. We finished in 2nd place that season on 80 points. & we were still Liverpool back then.
 
rednev said:
Not very much. I'm pretty certain Arsenal, Chelsea and City will finish in the top 4 so I think the question of 4th place boils down to United or Liverpool. Even though our start has been awful, will still pretty much have same team that walked to the title last season (minus a few injured players). The idea that we'll fail to finish 4th is unthinkable. And you're still Liverpool, when it comes down to it. You'll feck up eventually.
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Get with the times old man. Ferguson is gone.

This year is our year!
 
rednev said:
In your dreams.
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Ah man, there Is being partisan and there is being silly. League runs and finishes are based on a teams ability to not only play well consistently, but, to win when playing bad.

We won yesterday and the manner of such is a welcome relief after 2/12. Liverpool may have lost to Hull but they also got a valuable point away to Everton and dismantled Spurs yesterday (two things that we could not do!)

I hope that yesterday is that signal for United to stop pissing about but with that, I'll wait for Wednesday to solidify this. Liverpool have been very impressive this year and Suarez is easily next to Ronaldo right now.

It's one thing hating Liverpool but don't ignore the obvious facts in play. You speak of fourth and the unthoughtful act of us outside of it? We don't strengthen on January - we are in serious shit!
 
rednev said:
Not very much. I'm pretty certain Arsenal, Chelsea and City will finish in the top 4 so I think the question of 4th place boils down to United or Liverpool. Even though our start has been awful, we still pretty much have same team that walked to the title last season (minus a few injured players). The idea that we'll fail to finish 4th is unthinkable. And you're still Liverpool, when it comes down to it. You'll feck up eventually.
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As you said, in your dreams.
 
Cina said:
Last season he certainly wasn't great but in his debut season he scored 30+ goals which was a fantastic return, and this season he's arguably been City's best player, consistently.
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He was injured all throughout last season.There just seems to be a case of what have you done for me recently these days. Aguero is the better player for me but Suarez is amazing, both are world class. Alongside Rooney and Ramsey the standout player this season so far.
 
I think Aguero is still developing as a player (if it makes any sense) whereas Suarez looks to be as good as he'll ever get. Both truly amazing players.
 
Liverpool, if they are not really stupid as a club will do benefit immensely from Suarez no matter what happens. If they manage to keep hold of him they will not be far away from the top four and if he was to continue his current form, they could even put up a fight for the title.

However, if he leaves them in January, Liverpool can hold clubs to ransom. He is far and away the best player in the world that is not cup tied for Europe. He could be the difference for a team wanting to mount a genuine Champions League challenge. He would make a huge difference for any of the teams with aspirations of becoming champions of Europe. He could command a world record fee. His current form is as good as anyone in the world. If they have learned from their mistakes in the past that money could be invested very wisely and they could get a champions league spot even if he leaves.

Much as we hate him and much as we laughed every time he got in trouble, he could be the reason, whether he stays or goes, that Liverpool return to the top table in English football. And the way we're playing, it could be at our expense.
 
Can anyone remember how long Suarez got for biting Ivanovic, wasn't it a 10-game ban to make an example of him. Hilarious to find out that Defoe bit Mascherano many years ago on the arm and received a yellow card and no further punishment. We know Suarez is a bit of a cnut, but isn't it double-standards, where an English player can get away with anything he wants?
 
Aside from having scored more than spurs this season, Luis has also equalled Torres' league total for Chelsea with Fernando having a three year head start. Torres needed 94 games to score the 17 goals Suarez has managed in 11 games.
 
kouroux said:
I think Aguero is still developing as a player (if it makes any sense) whereas Suarez looks to be as good as he'll ever get. Both truly amazing players.
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Was about to write the same. Suarez is in his prime, Aguero probably not yet. Aguero reminds me of Romario: slightly less technical but more pacy and explosive. Fantastic player.
 
If he leaves, let's hope he moves abroad, like he says he wants to. Wenger or the El Plastico clubs signing him would not be good news for us.
 
Arsenal have as much chance of signing him as I do of getting a blowie of Jennifer Aniston.
 
B20 said:
Aside from having scored more than spurs this season, Luis has also equalled Torres' league total for Chelsea with Fernando having a three year head start. Torres needed 94 games to score the 17 goals Suarez has managed in 11 games.
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What was Torres best run in a Liverpool shirt over 11 games?
 
rednev said:
In fact prior to this season, you would almost certainly not have put him in a top 10 list, unless you were a Liverpool fan.
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I'd like to see you have a stab at naming 10 players who had a better season than him last season.
 
You'd have to say Gareth Bale money

Certainly in the top 5 strikers in the world at the minute

Arsenal should have bid 50/60 million
 
No more than 50. Even in the inflated market he isn't Bale and Levy isn't the chairmen. He also has baggage and straightening himself out for the last 11 games doesn't change that. He also plays for Liverpool who aren't in a position to demand a whole lot considering currently they aren't challenging for the league and aren't in the CL, this season's league position excluded.
Not to mention he's a rat and a scumbag and will no doubt cause a fuss when his head is turned by a bling club.
 
Of course it will be more than 50m. And damn right he isn't Bale. He's a fair sight better than him.
 
IMO, Suarez won't be sold for a record transfer fee for he turns 27 next month. Ronaldo and Bale were 24 when they moved to Madrid. Younger players have a bigger resale value which is normally taken into account in their transfer fee. But he won't be sold under 60 mil. pounds either unless he does something very stupid or loses his form.
 
RooneyLegend said:
I'd like to see you have a stab at naming 10 players who had a better season than him last season.
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I don't think a list of best players should be compiled on the basis of performance over one season.

At the end of last season, I would have regarded RVP, Rooney, Bale and Aguero as better than Suarez. Then from elsewhere in Europe I would have had him behind Ribery, Lahm, Ibrhahimovich, Falcoa, Inniesta and obviously Ronaldo and Messi

I think at most you could possibly argue that, prior to this season, he could have been regarded as a better player than one or two of those I've listed above. Suarez can't be elevated from someone who was (at best) knocking on the top 10 in Europe list at the end of last season to someone who is in the tier of Ronaldo and Messi on the basis of 11 games alone.
 
Ish84045 said:
At the moment, 60-70M (GBP).
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Which club is going to pay that? Most of the clubs capable of spending that amount of money are already oversubscribed with top quality forwards. I don't understand why people think a club is going to pay £60-70m for a 27 year old striker who they don't even need.
 
I reckon he'll go for 60 million. And he might go in January.

Never forget the man is an utter twat, he's playing for an offer, his pride was obviously hurt last season when no one but arse made an offer after he made a big deal about wanting out. I doubt he's changed his mind despite the platitudes his team put out.
 
But where's he going to go for £60m?

I think he'll go for £30-40m.
 
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