What has actually happened to Joe Hart?

I can't help but not feel sorry for him, deserves it for his attitude.
 
Media built him and now they're going to knock him down.
 
I can't help but not feel sorry for him, deserves it for his attitude.


What exactly is wrong with his attitude? A lot of people mention it based on his confident demeanour which I guess rubs some people up the wrong way, but everytime i've seen him interviewed he's always came across well and takes accountability for his mistakes. Dare I say he tends to come across as pretty level headed.

No one ever seems to actually provide actual evidence of this so called arrogance. Which you'd think would be easy to find given he's often interviewed.
 
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Media built him and now they're going to knock him down.


They have been propping him up for at least the last 6 months. His level dropped drastically after he won the league and most journos stood by him, so any criticism that might come his way from this point is completely deserved.
 
What exactly is wrong with his attitude? A lot of people mention it based on his confident demeanour which I guess rubs some people up the wrong way, but everytime i've seen him interviewed he's always came across well and takes accountability for his mistakes. Dare I say he tends to come across as pretty level headed.


Thinks he is "it". It's alright when you're Ronaldo but when you're fecking it up like Hart is you just look like a tit.
 
What exactly is wrong with his attitude? A lot of people mention it based on his confident demeanour which I guess rubs some people up the wrong way, but everytime i've seen him interviewed he's always came across well and takes accountability for his mistakes. Dare I say he tends to come across as pretty level headed.

No one ever seems to actually provide actual evidence of this so called arrogance. Which you'd think would be easy to find given he's often interviewed.
Not arrogance, but he made a part of himself when Madrid beat them 2-3 last year, sulking, and saying no when asked did Madrid deserve any credit for the win .
 
First one is a bad mistake, but the second is from close range. However I think he's set wrong, thinking he's going to cut onto his left to hit it and when Robben unthinkably hits it with his right he's not ready for it!
 
two crap pieces of goalkeeping. That's a massive number of clangers such a short time into the season. I wonder if his England place wil be under threat atall :lol:
 
First one is a bad mistake, but the second is from close range. However I think he's set wrong, thinking he's going to cut onto his left to hit it and when Robben unthinkably hits it with his right he's not ready for it!


The second is pretty poor goalkeeping for me, he commits to making himself big far to early, gets caught out. I've seen him do it loads of times and get quite lucky, like it hits his toe and just goes wide, which in fairness is the point of doing it. When you get caught out though you look a bit stupid.

As for there nothing wrong with Hart's attitude I think he does come across as a bit of a tit. You've got to have confidence in your ability especially as a keeper but thaty Madrid game summed him up for me, pretty much shit all over his team mates and made out he was the man (despite making a mistake for a goal.) He did come across as getting far to big before he really warranted the praise. It's not all his fault, he doesn't ask for the praise and being vastly over rated by the English media but if it happens you're always going to be scrutinised.

One of his main problems, as stupid as it sounds, is he tries to hard to make up for errors and it can lead to other errors, he steps out his comfort zone a bit and goes for the extraordinary, or charges out his net to look "brave" but can end up looking stupid. A good few games where he makes a mistake to concede you'll find he tends to make another mistake in that game which may or may not result in a goal due to him over compensating. It wouldn't happen if he just played his natural game.

I think he's under big pressure now. He did play well when they won the league and when he made mistakes they were usually 3-0 up for example so he got away with them. As soon as they cost the team points he will get closely looked at. There's no reason for City to show loyalty to him now, there's only so many mistakes you can warrant. They're not short of cash and when you probably see the likes of Casillas and Valdes available it will be hard to turn down that opportunity.
 
two crap pieces of goalkeeping. That's a massive number of clangers such a short time into the season. I wonder if his England place wil be under threat atall :lol:
Foster will be out for a while, doubt Ruddy or Butland would get chosen over him although there's a chance Pellegrini might drop him for Pantilimon, Everton on Sunday so hoping Lukaku embarrasses him.
 
They have been propping him up for at least the last 6 months. His level dropped drastically after he won the league and most journos stood by him, so any criticism that might come his way from this point is completely deserved.

Patrick Barclay his biggest fan too and a DDG basher to boot! On Sunday supplement he was blaming everybody but Hart for the goal against Scotland and saying anyone that doubts Hart needs their head read!! Class is permanent! DDG miles better!!
 
Rightly so too, throwing an inexperienced/uncapped keeper in for the crucial must win qualifiers is a recipe for disaster.
 
The Robben goal could be forgiven maybe, it was a good strike. That's something that could happen, a keeper can't save everything but should hope to do better there.
The Ribery one is a howler though. Really poor.
 
The Robben goal could be forgiven maybe, it was a good strike. That's something that could happen, a keeper can't save everything but should hope to do better there.
The Ribery one is a howler though. Really poor.

Could be forgiven if it was an out of character mistake!
 
England will be more forgiving with him than City will.

Not if he cost them a place at the World Cup or points in the World Cup look at Robert Green! If City replace him and its looking more likely with every mistake, England won't be picking a keeper that doesn't play. Plus what would be his next club Arsenal (he'd be lucky) probably a Stoke or Everton!
 
Well, yes, if he wasn't making a lot of terrible mistakes lately people would probably just ignore it and move on but when you can't stop a ball to save your life, then Hart's ability gets questioned.
Unless you are Patrick Barclay you question the people that's questioning Hart lol he's backed an over hyped GK here for sure (best in the world) gulp!!
 
Unless you are Patrick Barclay you question the people that's questioning Hart lol he's backed an over hyped GK here for sure (best in the world) gulp!!


If he backed down now though he'd have to admit he was wrong and that would hurt his pride so he's better off just being wrong
 
If he backed down now though he'd have to admit he was wrong and that would hurt his pride so he's better off just being wrong
He'd be respected more if he would say it as it is i.e. Hart has been having a shocking time of it and maybe we were to quick to say he was one of the best in the world! As for the past season and a half he's been one of the worst if not thee worst GK in the premier league.
 
He's a good keeper but with so many silly mistakes you can tell he isn't as focused as he used to be, you never know what causes these things, could be something personal or maybe he isn't taking good care of himself.
 
Be nice to see Roy have some balls and drop him for Fraser Forster but will never happen, as usual he will be automatic starter based on name/reputation
 
Would like to see Forster given a chance.


That isnt what you want if you think Forster is the future, dropping him into a high pressure qualifier is the very worst thing that could happen, any mistake and the press will destroy him, moreso than usual given he will have replaced Mighty Joe Hart, about whom they are still being very coy with their critical analysis and the media still, I think , harbor hopes of being the next big man english lion poster child for the world cup run.
 
If he wasnt a City player I might feel sorry for him.

For a couple of years he was one of the best young keepers around and the best in the PL.

Its all gone to shit now. Seems to be common for English keepers
 
That isnt what you want if you think Forster is the future, dropping him into a high pressure qualifier is the very worst thing that could happen, any mistake and the press will destroy him, moreso than usual given he will have replaced Mighty Joe Hart, about whom they are still being very coy with their critical analysis and the media still, I think , harbor hopes of being the next big man english lion poster child for the world cup run.


I believe this scenario is known as a "Carson." What even happened to him?