What do we still need? Aka The never ending story

[Tallis]

LCB: Olivier Boscagli free
RWB: Frimpong 33m
DM: Franck Anguissa free
CM: Hugo Larsson 33m
CM: Angel Gomes free
CF: Osimhen 55m

Sign bunch of free players and play Bruno as a 10 again.

Is 33m his release clause? If so, definitely worth looking into.

Anguissa - if 2-3 year contract and wages not more than 150k, could be a good way to add some depth to our MF.

 

[croadyman]

Yeah, he's the real deal. Good age profile too, will help Hojlund or whoever is next.

Hoping we move Hojlund/Zirkzee to get David

 

[Xeque_279]

Hoping we move Hojlund/Zirkzee to get David

Honestly I don't see the hype with him. Whenever I've seen him play he doesn't look all that? If there's anyone I'd get from Lille, it would be Angel on a free.

 

[croadyman]

Yeah I’ve said since pre-Amorim that we needed at least two QUALITY attackers. Right now you have Amad… and that’s it. Garnachos overall game is still very spotty, Rashford is gone, Antony is gone, Hojlund and Zirkzee offer almost nothing, and that’s it. Then you have Mount who’s a sicknote, and Bruno who honestly doesn’t fit well as an inside 10 given his lack of dribbling ability and pace if we’re honest.

I’m not delusional enough to think we’ll get a couple guaranteed top level goalscorers this summer, but bare minimum they have to be quality players that elevate the floor of the attack drastically. Cunha would be ideal. Gyokeres is an obvious target. Dibling or Quenda would be great additions. There’s other names out there.

But yeah the team is going no where until we completely rework that forward line. Right now it’s genuine relegation quality barring Amad (who’s just broken through himself this season)

Dibling would be cheaper as Southampton will be relegated whereas Wolves stay up and Cunha signing a new deal raises price too.

 

[Xeque_279]

Dibling would be cheaper as Southampton will be relegated whereas Wolves stay up and Cunha signing a new deal raises price too.

I'm sure he signed the new contract with a release clause in it. There will be a lot more competition though.

 

[croadyman]

Honestly I don't see the hype with him. Whenever I've seen him play he doesn't look all that? If there's anyone I'd get from Lille, it would be Angel on a free.

I just think he could be a shrewd deal, if it doesn't work out think we can still move him on

 

[gulli_G]

Just watching the 50 passes before that arsenal goal against city, my god our players are brutal. We need technical players, comfortable on the ball, able to hold it up, not panic when a player presses them. We are actually awful. We need possibly a new team bar Diallo and marinez who are comfortable on the ball.

Agree, was watching that match and also Brugges Vs City, thinking we are shocking, how comfortable all 3 teams are on the ball makes us look like amateurs in comparison.

Like you said we only have very few plays who can do that.

 

[MCDC]

Honestly I don't see the hype with him. Whenever I've seen him play he doesn't look all that? If there's anyone I'd get from Lille, it would be Angel on a free.

Completely agree on David, if he was that good someone would of taken him.

Does Angel move the needle or are we mentioning him as he used to play here, I am not convinced feels like an Eriksen replacement of great technically lacking physically.

If I was looking at anyone from Lille it would be Ayyoub Bouaddi, only 17 but looks like he has a huge future, wouldn't be an immediate starter but someone to buy and loan back and let him develop.

 

[DannyCAFC]

Here’s the thing, we only need £80-90m
Combined for Garnaucho and Rashford providing they are sold before 1st July , then add Mctominay and Greenwood and you have 4 academy players that all represent 100% academy profit of £140m in this Accounting period which means we could spend £300-£350m in the summer easily.

The club needs to reinvest all the money they would receive. We need 3/4 attacking options and Zirkzee will easily fetch £30-35m as he has a fantastic reputation in Serie A, if we don’t get Gykores he’ll be used as a makeweight in a cash plus swap deal for Osimhen with Napoli.

SJR needs to prove what he said that he’s looking to make us successful on the field first, well to do that Jim you need to buy at least 6/7 Elite PL proven players this summer!

I don't think this is true to be honest. Given United's Q1 2025 numbers are already out there and the summer player sales are reflected in this, if the fee brought in from the likes of McT, Greenwood etc made an impact on future spending they would have made more moves in January and done so earlier IMO - the fact that only Dorgu came in and only after they made a couple of moves with Antony and Maguire is testament to the situation that - as both the club and reputable journalistic sources have often repeated - any future purchasing is relying on future sales also.

I think even selling Garnacho and Rashford they'd struggle to spend £200m personally based on my projections, but we really don't know where United are at the moment at least until we get a look at Q2 numbers, I'll be interested to see where it looks like net interest is going to land because what's certain is United can't afford to be posting a £60m loss on this line item again and expect to spend big in the summer.

I've mentioned elsewhere I think but there is a situation where United could go big in the summer and I think they will still be fine for the next cycle of PSR, but the one after - when they lose the £12m net profit year in 2022/23 from calculations - is going to be the one that stings. Spending above their means this summer will mean needing to scramble around and balance the books down-the-line and I just don't think that's going to be the INEOS way.

 

[aeh1991]

Is 33m his release clause? If so, definitely worth looking into.

Anguissa - if 2-3 year contract and wages not more than 150k, could be a good way to add some depth to our MF.

I think he doesn't have a release clause, but our team has been good at negotiating the recent transfers, so I do believe something around 33m plus bonus could be possible.
But maybe he'll cost a lot more. He'd be worth paying up to 50m imo.

 

[GazTheLegend]

Anyone else thinking we need to look within the Premier League for a few players now?
Would anyone be upset with signing Mateta, Bowen, Antonee Robinson, and Liam Delap? All of those have played better football than the players we have. They'd be Ferguson-esque signings. Also sort of weaken the teams around us that are uh, beating us regularly at this point.

Realise that there's a Premier League tax but if any of them are realistic I'd snap your hand off for any of them.

There's also Cunha to consider, Borja Sainz at Norwich, and a few buyback clause's around on some players we have had like Gomes, Fernandez etc.

 

[Xeque_279]

Completely agree on David, if he was that good someone would of taken him.

Does Angel move the needle or are we mentioning him as he used to play here, I am not convinced feels like an Eriksen replacement of great technically lacking physically.

If I was looking at anyone from Lille it would be Ayyoub Bouaddi, only 17 but looks like he has a huge future, wouldn't be an immediate starter but someone to buy and loan back and let him develop.

His progressed leaps and bounds in terms of his development and that too playing deeper in midfield. Very good technically and on the ball, and he's very tenacious off the ball. Would be a free transfer and I don't think his wages would be that high too.

Anyone else thinking we need to look within the Premier League for a few players now?
Would anyone be upset with signing Mateta, Bowen, Antonee Robinson, and Liam Delap? All of those have played better football than the players we have. They'd be Ferguson-esque signings. Also sort of weaken the teams around us that are uh, beating us regularly at this point.

Realise that there's a Premier League tax but if any of them are realistic I'd snap your hand off for any of them.

There's also Cunha to consider, Borja Sainz at Norwich, and a few buyback clause's around on some players we have had like Gomes, Fernandez etc.

Don't think anyone would be upset, it's just the price we'd have to pay. Neither of those would be available for at least 40-50m.

 

[Red00012]

I don't think this is true to be honest. Given United's Q1 2025 numbers are already out there and the summer player sales are reflected in this, if the fee brought in from the likes of McT, Greenwood etc made an impact on future spending they would have made more moves in January and done so earlier IMO - the fact that only Dorgu came in and only after they made a couple of moves with Antony and Maguire is testament to the situation that - as both the club and reputable journalistic sources have often repeated - any future purchasing is relying on future sales also.

I think even selling Garnacho and Rashford they'd struggle to spend £200m personally based on my projections, but we really don't know where United are at the moment at least until we get a look at Q2 numbers, I'll be interested to see where it looks like net interest is going to land because what's certain is United can't afford to be posting a £60m loss on this line item again and expect to spend big in the summer.

I've mentioned elsewhere I think but there is a situation where United could go big in the summer and I think they will still be fine for the next cycle of PSR, but the one after - when they lose the £12m net profit year in 2022/23 from calculations - is going to be the one that stings. Spending above their means this summer will mean needing to scramble around and balance the books down-the-line and I just don't think that's going to be the INEOS way.

Surely a lot depends on whether we get CL or EL football next season or no Europe at all ?

 

[bosnian_red]

Midfield along with attack is the biggest concern for me .

Ugarte while being decent player has serious Limitations and similar can be said about Bruno .

Its too porous and lacks athleticism while quite easy to play against , maybe it gets mitigated to an extent with better attackers but against any half decent team it would still get exposed regularly .

Our best performances under amorim have come against quality teams with them in midfield and they haven't been exposed at all

 

[davidmichael]

Reports that Shaw is out for another 4-5 weeks with another injury so with no Martinez til Christmas and Shaw surely being released in the summer we’ll need a left sided centre back unless Kukonki and Heaven are called up immediately