What are your expectations for the new season? [2024/25 edition]

Top 4 and not much else. There aren't any signings confirmed, I don't know the fitness level of players, we still need to get rid off some problematic individuals. It's too early to tell for this season.

For the foreseeable future I'm overall optimistic. Something is finally being done behind the scenes. We should be regularly challenging again in a few years.
 
A winning mentality.
A clear style of play.
Players developing in their role.
Top 4
EL run into semis or finals.
 
No more excuses.

We need to win both the Champions and Europa League and have rhe league wrapped up by Christmas.

If not, sell Ratcliffe and bring in Abramovich.

No more Mr Nice Guy
 
Not to get a thrashing.
More control in games.
Not conceding a shitful of chances each match.
 
bosnian_red said:
Sorry I guess misunderstanding. I'm saying this would I guess be my demands of the group and Ten Hag and what I would expect them to deliver, and if not Ten Hag gets replaced.

Not necessarily what I expect will actually happen.
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Yeah I think OP is a bit vague, you can expect something to happen because you would like this to be true, or expect something to happen because you think this will happen based on actual evidence.
At this point in time (start of the transfer window) we can only do the former, the latter - we don't have enough data for it.
I think it's way too early for this thread, we've been super shit last season, we have not made any signing yet and not even cleared out the deadwood on high wages, so "expecting" any improvement to last season (apart from Martinez staying fit) is just pure fairytale.
 
Should be minimum top four, it's really not that hard.

Last season, despite a combination of absolutely horrendous injuries, terrible luck with refereeing / VAR decisions and a loss of confidence leading to some shocking performances, we still only finished 8pts behind Villa.

We can't possibly have that many injuries again and we can't possibly have that much bad luck again.
 
Better to watch and qualify for the CL would be good enough. Any more would be a bonus.
 
I don't know. I just feel resigned and standoffish about the whole thing at this point. I don't have a lot of belief in EtHs project, but who knows, maybe it'll turn out good. The transfers we're pursuing don't seem like obvious homeruns to me, but who knows, maybe they are. Getting the CEO and DoF in place at the same time the window opens, hiring a recruitment chief on a short-term contract and extending EtH, with a transfers veto, doesn't look like a seismic shift in strategic leadership to me, but who knows, maybe it is.
 
Positive goal difference would be nice. Top 4 and win the Europa are the minimum I would accept.
 
Really pleased about the stuff happening regarding the structure of the sporting department and the people that have come in. Can't see United performing well without this happening. For the coming season, I'd be happy if we get into CL again and win a cup, plus, and this might be the most important, seeing some progress playing wise. Another season with a wide open midfield even I could run through would be devastating.
 
Borys said:
Yeah I think OP is a bit vague, you can expect something to happen because you would like this to be true, or expect something to happen because you think this will happen based on actual evidence.
At this point in time (start of the transfer window) we can only do the former, the latter - we don't have enough data for it.
I think it's way too early for this thread, we've been super shit last season, we have not made any signing yet and not even cleared out the deadwood on high wages, so "expecting" any improvement to last season (apart from Martinez staying fit) is just pure fairytale.
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There's expecting something to happen and setting your expectations of what you expect from somebody as a target for a season, I took it as the latter. If he doesn't deliver, then that's his failure basically.
 
Depends on which Rashford we get. If he has another poor season then I just don't see how we score enough goals to realistically finish higher than 6th. Top 4 should be achievable if he returns to form.
 
Obviously it depends on signings but if we get de ligt, ugarte, zirkzee and a couple of other back ups I think we will see a massive improvement. We simply can't have as many injuries as last season and having a specialist DM will make a huge difference. Id hope for comfortable top 4 and winning EL. But more importantly looking more like we're building on ten hags first season and nothing like last year
 
Top 4 - Ensuring we finish ahead of Villa, Spurs and Newcastle basically.
Europa League - You can never predict a cup tournament, but not having teams drop down from the CL let's us know all potential opponents from the off. We should be aiming to win the trophy.
 
Top 4-5, Europa league win.

Also attacking play style and a good GD.
 
Looks like we are getting business done early, if we get Ugarte, De Ligt, Brathwaite and Zirkzee that's 170 million worth of players. I'd be looking at least top four and a trophy. Does anyone know what our financial fair player budget is for this season? If we can shift on Maguire, Sancho, Greenwood, VDB, AWB, Casemiro hopefully should have enough cash for a new full back and another centre midfielder. I'm not watching Scott next season. Could do with a new winger as well. I know its not football manager but think realistically we want those players sold and hopefully someone will take them!!
 
John XII said:
Not if an unhinged Uraguayan slaps them in the chops every time they try.
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Yeah that worked well for Casemiro. He was gased after 6 months.
It is still early, al lot will depend on new players, but we will know after 3-4 games what we can expect from the season.
Formation is our biggest isue, imho.
 
bosnian_red said:
There's expecting something to happen and setting your expectations of what you expect from somebody as a target for a season, I took it as the latter. If he doesn't deliver, then that's his failure basically.
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So far there has always been a "mitigation" for every failure, but I think this pool will run dry out soon enough.
 
I would take playing style improvements over anything for this season. We have to dominate games, retain possession better and concede less shots.. that and top 4 and I’ll honestly be happy.
 
Should do better than us:
City
Arsenal

Has a good chance of doing better than us:
Liverpool (would be above if not for a new manager)
Villa
Chelsea
Spurs
Newcastle

So 3rd is good. 4th is ok. 5th is bad. 6th is very bad. 7th is terrible. 8th is bottom level (again). 9th or lower should not be possible. An actual cow would do a better job.
 
Top 4. Decent Europa run with good performances and good football.

Ideally, beat City in the community shield. Or at least show a good footballing performance where we have possession of at least 40 and we take the game to them. Losing after that is not that bad. It only shows progress.

No loss to any of the big teams at home.

No loss to Liverpool. Decent outcome is win at home, draw away.

Take a couple of teams to the cleaners. Would like to see some matches which are not stressful and panicky.

Miss the old United where we would see 4 and 5 goals scored for us instead of against.

Very achievable targets.

Actual progress has to be measured in terms of how we play. If there's any method and style that's showing plus player's attitude and desire to fight for the team.
 
Positive style of play without the suicide midfield
Top 4 or Europa League win
No thrashings by our rivals
 
diarm said:
Will need to be ahead of one of Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal or City as well.
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I forgot about Chelsea in truth, but I'm not convinced that they'll be anymore consistent under Maresca.

City, Arsenal and Liverpool are all givens. Although, I wouldn't be surprised if Liverpool don't hit the ground running under Slot and it's still to be seen if City hold on to some influential players with Saudi interest looming.
 
As the man Fergie himself put it, ‘I want to see football that’s gonna get me off my seat’. I feel if that’s right then everything else will start to fall into place
 
A clear style of play that lets us dominate the smaller teams and stay competitive against the bigger teams without having to resort to too many "moments" - Which culminates in a top 3 or 4 position, but closer to the top 2 in terms of points difference than previous years.

Not so worried about trophies, but 1 of the 3 would be the icing on the cake - we should however give our best efforts to make a deep run in all these cups while also retaining our consistency in the league.
 
The major (and realistic) targets for this season that would represent a good outcome given the recent trajectory of the club are the following:

1. Top four or five finish (CL qualification). (Quant.)
2. Domestic cup or Europa League trophy. (Quant.)
3. Rebalancing of the squad, removal of unwanted players, reduction in wage bill. Smart, progressive, young signings. (Quant./Qual.)
4. The establishment of a definitive and clear style of play. (Qual.)
5. Significant statistical improvement of KPI’s such as number of goals scored, conceded, and chances created (Xg), number of shots faced. (Quant.)
6. A demonstrable improvement in club culture, standards of excellence, atmosphere within the club. (Qual.)
7.The emergence of a clear plan for stadium redevelopment/construction. (Qual/Quant.)
8. A vast improvement on medical and sport science outcomes. (Quant.)
9. A significant improvement on recruitment returns on investment and opportunity. (Quant.)
10. Innovation. I would like to see industry leading thinking breaking new or barely trodden ground in on pitch performance (set piece coaching, sport science, player performance tracking, injury prevention and rehabilitation), and off pitch outcomes (commercial and strategic partnerships, the integration of new technology). (Quan/Qual.).

In order to be successful, I believe we need a balance of quantitative and qualitative metrics by which we assess the performance of the club as a whole. The qualitative measurement is particularly relevant for on pitch performance. However, to date I haven’t seen a true embrace of quantitative measurement and methodologies for outcomes from this club, and that is something I would like to see change. We have gone to enormous trouble and expense to build a state of the art data science department from scratch, developing proprietary software in the process. Ironically, Dominic Jordan, the man responsible for it all just left the club; but nevertheless, I would like to see us run with that this season and develop it further and integrate it into everything we do as a club. Getting quality, reliable and easily digestible data is the cornerstone of being able to make good decisions. The club is pretty cagey about a lot of this stuff, but I hope to see more evidence of it this season.
 
This season I am more optimistic. After INEOS taking over the football club, and all the changes that were made, opened to eyes on how bad the club has been run for so many years. I don't expect everything to be perfect after a couple months.

I think CL qualification is on the cards.

Most importantly, what I want, is a clear style of play. I want this season for that to happen. A lot of games to be played and I think we have seen glimpses of what Ten Hag is trying to do. Once they perfect that, I really feel good results consistently will come.

I think a cup win or at minimum a final should be an expectation. Europa League should be something we at least get to the final to.

Things seem to be looking up. It's important to not expect too much too early. In my opinion, a style of play is my expectation.
 
Better performances and a style play that's repeatable.
Top 4 finish.
Europa league cup. Especially since the UCL teams won't in it anymore.
 
Realistically the expectation has to be top four. With the money we have spent and the squad we have, we can't be talking about finish 5th or lower and it being a decent season.

Whether we will achieve it or not is another matter...but I think if we sign Ugarte and have a bit more luck with injuries we might just do it
 
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