Not that with the Spain team again, but as you'll probably know he is already an established international and now with Xavi and Xabi gone he is one of the first names in their starting 11. As I said it's all relative, if we can possibly spend around 50 mil for 3-4 year service of Falcao for example who has had his injuries, than some million more for more than 10 year service for Koke doesn't sound that ridiculous.
What approach would you like to see from us in coming transfer windows?
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He will be in the Spain team going forward but he is only starting games now with Alonso and Xavi retiring, He is going to need time in the team to establish himself fully within the setup, I understand what you are saying and I would rather Glazer's money be spent on players than propping up the Glazer bank accounts but spending that much on Koke just wouldn't make financial sense, That's not to say he won't be worth that down the line though
The line between having the right amount of competition and so many players in same position that big names will get frustrated is fine.
Agree with a rb. Still not totally convinced by rafael. Sagna would have been perfect if we could have nicked him ahead of city. Would love to get cm dele ali from mk dons but just think Liverpool are going to nick him.
I'm very convinced with Rafael as a player - he improves both the tempo and the tenacity of our attacks so much, it's fairly easy to go unnoticed. I'm just not convinced with his fitness, nor his current competition in Valencia.
I have always thought that most teams cant retain the Champions League because of this idea that they need to refresh their squads. In recent times, I have felt Madrid and Barcelona achieved peak squad levels that didn't need refreshing every year. Had Madrid kept the same squad going into this season, They would be in much better shape to challenge for everything. In 2009, Barcelona got rid of Etoo to bring in Ibra who again, didnt add that much to the team. Cesc in 2012, again an unneeded piece of a complete puzzle. That Barcelona team really should have defended at least one of the CL's they won.
I hope we just tweak our weaknesses/bolster the squad but no need to "Refresh" with a top class edition every year.
RE Chelsea - Mourinho is actually very good at building teams or finding players to suit his team. His time at Madrid, he bought in players that were needed rather than buying super stars.
Erm, no one has that....
Where does the notion that the very best teams have two top players for each position comes from? Do you guys know how hard it will be to keep top players who are not playing, happy?
I personally don't even see where a Strootman or Vidal would fit in in our current setup. I think that's what Herrera is here for, to play the box to box role. If the CB's don't improve this season, I would think we need a CB and definitely a RB to cover Rafael. Same thing for the DM position I guess.But I would want a true DM, Vidal/Strootman would be limited playing there.
fair points. Except our bench for some positions looks pretty dire...especially midfield.
Carrick.....I'm not sure he will ever be useful as he was. Fletcher? please....
Peraira and Pearson perhaps. but not tried in the first team.
Carrick.....I'm not sure he will ever be useful as he was. Fletcher? please....
Peraira and Pearson perhaps. but not tried in the first team.
Agree with his qualities. My doubts are all due to his fitness and discipline rather than ability
Chelsea have Schurrle, Willian, Hazard, Salah and Oscar for two positions as Fabregas looks like he will be the #10. That is a lof of big names fighting for two spots and they seem quite happy.
Well, I believe the possible 'outs' in the Summer are:
Any 'first-team' player currently on loan
One of Amos/Johnstone
Anderson
Young
Fellaini
Fletcher
Evans
van Persie
I think this kind of exodus would be good for the club and I do expect us to go no nonsense and sign:
Strootman
Hummels
Ronaldo
You can replace Hummels with another good CB, or Ronaldo with Reus/another pacey attacking player... It's just another area we need to cover or at least have back-up to Di Maria if it's a lower profile player. Also, sign Falcao permanently. All of this will of course be just as costly as our Summer window just gone. My hope is that the business is done quickly in the next two windows and we have a squad that in the future windows, we only have to add a couple of players in case someone wants to leave, or if someone is ageing and will need to be replaced.
I am sure LvG will trust some youth (such as Blackett) and bring in his own young players to build for the future. I do not have a problem with United spending £300million over three windows (Summer just gone, January, next Summer) if it means we're set at only having to spend a fraction of that in the windows to come.
Any 'first-team' player currently on loan
One of Amos/Johnstone
Anderson
Young
Fellaini
Fletcher
Evans
van Persie
I think this kind of exodus would be good for the club and I do expect us to go no nonsense and sign:
Strootman
Hummels
Ronaldo
You can replace Hummels with another good CB, or Ronaldo with Reus/another pacey attacking player... It's just another area we need to cover or at least have back-up to Di Maria if it's a lower profile player. Also, sign Falcao permanently. All of this will of course be just as costly as our Summer window just gone. My hope is that the business is done quickly in the next two windows and we have a squad that in the future windows, we only have to add a couple of players in case someone wants to leave, or if someone is ageing and will need to be replaced.
I am sure LvG will trust some youth (such as Blackett) and bring in his own young players to build for the future. I do not have a problem with United spending £300million over three windows (Summer just gone, January, next Summer) if it means we're set at only having to spend a fraction of that in the windows to come.
I agree with most of your selection but suggesting we lose vanPersie is a tad ott.
Was just discussing with a mate his place when Falcao nails down the vocal 9 position as we have to much creativity wide and and behind the striker he will be seeing a lot of bench time.
So if his attitude is right and beneficial to the group,i.e getting back into the champions league,he will be part of the great re build.Hes educated enough to trust his mentor and he ll get lots of time still im sure as hes too good be perma benched.Next year will be a different kettle of fish.
As for hummels and ronaldo
<id throw depay in as well>----------Falcao----------
Ronaldo-----------Depay
-----Dimaria--Herrera------
---------Strootman-------
Shaw------------------Raf
-----Hummels--Jones------
----------Dave------------
We need a Rojo type of player for the right side of the defense. Someone who could be a like for like replacement for Rafael and do a very good job as a CB as well. Other than that we need to add a little more depth in couple areas for the next season, when we will be competing on more fronts. The rest will depend on the performance of the players under LVG. Some more deadwood needs to be moved, but maybe some youngsters can step up - it's too early to tell.
I hope we continue to buy young, up and coming talent - Odegaard, Tielemans, Meyer, etc. alongside the one or two top players we buy a year. We now have good foundations upon which to build.
Would buy another CM to compete with Herrera, another young RB to cover for Raphael when he is injured and definitely another CB.
If a top player like Ronaldo, Reus or Vidal becomes available I would buy first and ask questions later, now that we have a decent enough foundation.
Would buy another CM to compete with Herrera, another young RB to cover for Raphael when he is injured and definitely another CB.
If a top player like Ronaldo, Reus or Vidal becomes available I would buy first and ask questions later, now that we have a decent enough foundation.
I agree with most of your selection but suggesting we lose vanPersie is a tad ott.
Was just discussing with a mate his place when Falcao nails down the vocal 9 position as we have to much creativity wide and and behind the striker he will be seeing a lot of bench time.
So if his attitude is right and beneficial to the group,i.e getting back into the champions league,he will be part of the great re build.Hes educated enough to trust his mentor and he ll get lots of time still im sure as hes too good be perma benched.Next year will be a different kettle of fish.
As for hummels and ronaldo
----------Falcao----------
Ronaldo-----------Depay
-----Dimaria--Herrera------
---------Strootman-------
Shaw------------------Raf
-----Hummels--Jones------
----------Dave------------
I wasn't suggesting getting rid of RvP, he's great. I said 'possible' outs, they're just players I think may leave in the Summer. Some of them may stay, Evans and RvP are the only real first-teamers on that list who have a chance of going. My reasons are:
RvP - Falcao is younger, Rooney is younger and is captain. It's more-so about Falcao though, as I believe they will end up fighting for one position and Rooney will get into the team due to other attributes.
Evans - I think it's evident that we are set to sign another CB and Evans has been by far the most off the boil IMO. It could be Smalling who goes also, but I am sure that Rojo and (lets say Hummels) would eventually nail down first-team football, with Blackett as the back-up LCB and Jones as the back-up RCB potentially (or if we signed a different CB other than Hummels, then Jones may stay first choice). Smalling staying and Keane back off loan gives us six CBs which is more than enough to cover all competitions in the future. Smalling/Jones also cover RB while Rojo covers LB. Injuries to Shaw/Rafael or them needing a break gives these players chances to get in the side, even in a more favoured position sometimes.
Anyway, I've kind of driven this a bit off-topic.
My basic thought is that United continue getting rid of the 'deadwood', along with maybe a couple of higher profile players depending on the signings, over the Summer. If RvP did go, we'd probably be replacing him with Ronaldo or Reus which isn't much of a downgrade provided Falcao replaces RvP's goals (which you would expect him to be able to do). We'd spend a lot of money again (roughly what we spent recently) on about 3-4 players who are at least good enough to threaten to get into the first-team. We'd probably have at least two quality players for every position this way, even if some of them are covering more than one as a back-up. It will have been two Summers of huge spending, probably totalling £300million including this coming January, but we will make a reasonable sum back through sales. After setting all of this up, when LvG's contract ends (if he doesn't extend it), we'd hopefully be in a position with a very strong squad where rather than this mass investment being required again, we can spend about £50million a season on a couple of new players and maybe a youth prospect. This will, in the long run, get us out of debt very quickly thanks to the big marketing deals we have (and provided we are back in Europe). From there, we're just set to stay near the top for many years to come. Hoping it works out this way and we don't end up in the situation of having to sign almost an entire first 11 over two years to fix it. (Some will say we haven't done that, but I'd count six LvG signings that are basically right in the first 11 now, and I expect another 3-4 in the next year where at least two of them will do the same).
Players for each position (2015/16 Season Prediction:
GK: de Gea, Lindegaard, Johnstone
RB: Rafael, Valencia, Jones, Smalling, Vermijl/Varela
CB: Jones, Smalling, Hummels, Rojo, Blackett, M.Keane
LB: Shaw, Rojo, Blind, Blackett
DM: Blind, Strootman, Carrick, Jones
CM: Herrera, Di Maria, Carrick, Strootman, Pereira
AM: Mata, Di Maria, Herrera, Rooney, Januzaj
FW: Falcao, Ronaldo, Rooney, Wilson, Henriquez
Don't hold me to that though :P
GK: de Gea, Lindegaard, Johnstone
RB: Rafael, Valencia, Jones, Smalling, Vermijl/Varela
CB: Jones, Smalling, Hummels, Rojo, Blackett, M.Keane
LB: Shaw, Rojo, Blind, Blackett
DM: Blind, Strootman, Carrick, Jones
CM: Herrera, Di Maria, Carrick, Strootman, Pereira
AM: Mata, Di Maria, Herrera, Rooney, Januzaj
FW: Falcao, Ronaldo, Rooney, Wilson, Henriquez
Don't hold me to that though :P
I doubt RVP nor Evans will leave.
Evans takes a lot of beating on here. But he is very good CB. His fitness is the only question at times.
Evans takes a lot of beating on here. But he is very good CB. His fitness is the only question at times.
Fitness meaning injuries or do you think he has been hanging with Ando? Evans, on occasion, is prone to the really big mistake but he is solid. Going to be interesting to see what happens with Blackett clearly in LVG's mind doing a good job.
As for transfer policy, right now I'd like to see a period of stabiltiy so we can see exactly what we have. Rumblings this morning of AJ to Ially and the boy hasn't been on the pitch. I want to win, yes, but I'd also like to stay young so we don't have to chase the transfer market every muppet season.
he seems to take a bit of time to get back to be fully match fit. I suppose a lot a players do. But he is a commited lad and perhaps because of the way he plays, he does get injured quite a bit. I like him and hope he will not move away. Yes. Blackett has been a revelation. Tough and very intellegent player. He is going to be a very good player for us for a long time.
Get Falcao on a permanent deal, sign Strootman and Cuadrado. 2 players that instantly add a new dimension to the team. I don't think Real will let the worlds best players leave. Bayern will sign Reus and Real will sign Pogba, Vidal will end up having to stay at juventus.
De Gea (23)
Rafael (24)....Smalling (24)....Rojo (24)....Blind (24)
Herrera (25)......Strootman (24)
Mata (26)
Di Maria (26)................................Cuadrado (26)
Falcao (28)
Rafael (24)....Smalling (24)....Rojo (24)....Blind (24)
Herrera (25)......Strootman (24)
Mata (26)
Di Maria (26)................................Cuadrado (26)
Falcao (28)
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Januzaj will be in the first XI before too long I hope. That's some team above! I really think we're getting towards a CL winning team here (on paper). Rooney is here to stay though I bet.
That's what I mean. What an idiot rafael.
Defenders, and lots of them.
That's never a penalty. Ever.
I'd like to see us approach January by buying a defence
That's never a penalty. Ever.
Gave ref a decision to make. If he doesn't lose his petulantly lose his head for the millionth time since his debut and charge at vardy, clattenburg has no (ultimately wrong) decision to make. Seen that stupid, baffled look on his face so many times after decisions against him. My guess is he's never going to learn.
CB's who can stay fit would be great.
Hummels needs to be our main target and after that I expect Ronnie to follow in the summer..
I think it is quite obvious that we once again need to buy all the refs in the league.
A top quality defender is needed, but I dunno who's available.
It's clear we need a experienced leader in the defense but I can't really think of many we could.Hummels is the only one that comes to mind.Anyone have any other suggestions.
Prefer van Gaal to go for quality over quantity, assuming quality is available.
Top quality CB and competition for RB.
Then we're about as far as buying is going to take us for now.
Then we're about as far as buying is going to take us for now.
A heat-seeking destroyer in midfield is a more important acquisition than a new back line.
Jones, Smalling, Rojo and Blackett -- fukk off, Evans -- can grow into a solid quartet of CBs, but they need a human shield.
We know who he is.
Jones, Smalling, Rojo and Blackett -- fukk off, Evans -- can grow into a solid quartet of CBs, but they need a human shield.
We know who he is.
Sadly it seems another 150 to 200 mil to turn things around and that is just next summer not counting anything we can spends in January
I am not sure Jones, Smalling, Rojo or Blakett are ready to start as 1st choice CB for Man Utd unless they are paired with an experienced CM or a a proper DM.
I am thinking we need the CB before the DM.
I would rather go for somebody experienced and battling right now. Godin from Atletico is probably the best option right now.
He reminds me of Vidic, he has leadership skills and will fit in speaking Spanish fine.
He should not be too expensive either considering his age.
He reminds me of Vidic, he has leadership skills and will fit in speaking Spanish fine.
He should not be too expensive either considering his age.
a CB, and someone who can play RB maturely
no idea on who though
no idea on who though
I think we need a CRB check.
Besides Hummels or Subotic, can anyone name a top centre back who would be available because I'm finding it very hard to think of one. They are like rare commodities these days.
The problem with Godin is that he is 31, never played in England and is not the most dynamic of cb's, We need a leader in there who is quite mobile to, Hummels would be the number 1 choice for me but I don't think he would join us as it stands, the problem is that there is not a lot of stand out options, Personally I was quite disappointed that we didn't go in for Benatia as I think he would of been a great signing