I would keep jones, ship off evans and smalling for some real non injury prone quality. enough is enough.
What approach would you like to see from us in coming transfer windows?
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
I didn't know about that but money talks and he seems very ambitious.
Who'll be leaving this year then? Who I think/like to leave.
Leaving on a free:
Anderson
Fletcher
Cleverly
Sold
Evans
Young
Valencia
Buying
CM
Winger
CB x2
Leaving on a free:
Anderson
Fletcher
Cleverly
Sold
Evans
Young
Valencia
Buying
CM
Winger
CB x2
Is Chiellini still going on a free in summer?
Perhaps its time to emphasize the qualities of fitness and durability as much as talent when we buy. Those characteristics don't seem to be high enough on the list of qualifications but they add so much value to the transfer.
A top winger and a CB please.
He hasn't resigned? That would be a brilliant signing for free.
We should take the correct route and sign players in the respectable and commendable manner that Manchester City has been doing for 5 seasons.
We need a CB, RB and winger. Whether we can get them or not in January is another matter.
I like the look of that Depay kid, he'd probably be my choice for the winger role. Plenty of options for the RB slot and very few for CB.
Above all else though I hope the players we sign actually fit in and bring more balance to the side rather than just being big names.
I like the look of that Depay kid, he'd probably be my choice for the winger role. Plenty of options for the RB slot and very few for CB.
Above all else though I hope the players we sign actually fit in and bring more balance to the side rather than just being big names.
Over the next 2 transfer windows I'd like to see.
Off on a free
Fletcher
Anderson
Cleverley
Sold
Young
Mata
Evans
Smalling
Fellaini
Brought In
Garay
Laporte
Memphis Depay
Strootman
McCarthy
Damian
Off on a free
Fletcher
Anderson
Cleverley
Sold
Young
Mata
Evans
Smalling
Fellaini
Brought In
Garay
Laporte
Memphis Depay
Strootman
McCarthy
Damian
Depay is very exciting indeed but shouldn't we try land Reus for €35m when his release clause is activated? Either way I'd be happy with any of the two.
Reus is definitely the better player and you'd have to go for him first if he's available but Depay strikes me as very much a Manchester United sort of player. Young, pacy, powerful, and seems to have a winner's attitude. In some ways those sort of prospect signings are more exciting than the big name buys.
We could do better than that I suppose. Don't get me wrong, all good players but I dunno, it just seems a little bland, considering our primary objective going forward should be another European title (maybe I'm deluded but I think we're seeing the cycle of another very good United team). With that in mind we do need a bit more razzmatazz and greater strength in depth IMO.
I'd have probably Koke (throw the bank at Atleti) or Kramer instead of McCarthy and Tielemans as backup till he matures a bit with another eye on acquiring Xhaka. Just revamp the fecking midfield some more. Reus in addition to Depay to give us a very good wide complement including Januzaj who can also play the #10. Danilo, Arias, Rudy or maybe Van der Wiel (ideal if Van Gaal gets over their feud that is) instead of Darmian who is somewhat limited going forward. Another young CB like Doria, Stones or Sule as backup to the first choice Garay if Jones can't stay fit for the duration of this season and maybe another good backup to Shaw. Agree with the rest though including the sold and released column.
/muppet.
I'd just pay up and get Chiellini sooner rather than later. Juve owe us a favour after we gave them paddy for basically sod all.
Koke with Blind and Di Maria would be a truly productive core of the midfield. Something good to start building around that.#
Koke & Reus with Chiellini on a free
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Koke & Reus with Chiellini on a free
Yeah !!
Maybe we're saving the favor for Pogba.
Yeah !!
Maybe we're saving the favor for Pogba.
To think if we'd just played him against Blackburn...
We could do better than that I suppose. Don't get me wrong, all good players but I dunno, it just seems a little bland, considering our primary objective going forward should be another European title (maybe I'm deluded but I think we're seeing the cycle of another very good United team). With that in mind we do need a bit more razzmatazz and greater strength in depth IMO.
I'd have probably Koke (throw the bank at Atleti) or Kramer instead of McCarthy and Tielemans as backup till he matures a bit with another eye on acquiring Xhaka. Just revamp the fecking midfield some more. Reus in addition to Depay to give us a very good wide complement including Januzaj who can also play the #10. Danilo, Arias, Rudy or maybe Van der Wiel (ideal if Van Gaal gets over their feud that is) instead of Darmian who is somewhat limited going forward. Another young CB like Doria, Stones or Sule as backup to the first choice Garay if Jones can't stay fit for the duration of this season and maybe another good backup to Shaw. Agree with the rest though including the sold and released column.
/muppet.
Just to be clear, all of these over 2 windows?
Brought In
Garay
Laporte
Stones
Rudy
LB back-up
Memphis Depay
Marco Reus
Strootman
Koke
Tielemans
Xhaka
Once we have sorted out our weak areas, I'd like us to buy young and upcomings rather than big names. I was fine with this summer transfer window since we lacked real quality, but now we should build on that. Just because we have the cash, doesn't mean we should splash it at every given opportunity.
Just to be clear, all of these over 2 windows?
Brought In
Garay
Laporte
Stones
Rudy
LB back-up
Memphis Depay
Marco Reus
Strootman
Koke
Tielemans
Xhaka
Yup. Go full muppet or go home.
January window will depend on where United is in the table, injuries, and buying/selling/loan from a position of strength.
As for the summer aside from addressing holes and squad depth and clearing deadwood there has to be a focus on acquiring lots of prospects in the 16-20 age range that can be loaned out across Europe for either turning a profit or potentially to fill in roles in the team whether it is squad roles or first team roles.
Relying on the academy alone is far too inefficient.
If United can acquire 10-15 prospects this summer for development it will go a long way in identifying talent earlier and it will help offset the need to go out and spend massive amounts of money on transfers.
As for the summer aside from addressing holes and squad depth and clearing deadwood there has to be a focus on acquiring lots of prospects in the 16-20 age range that can be loaned out across Europe for either turning a profit or potentially to fill in roles in the team whether it is squad roles or first team roles.
Relying on the academy alone is far too inefficient.
If United can acquire 10-15 prospects this summer for development it will go a long way in identifying talent earlier and it will help offset the need to go out and spend massive amounts of money on transfers.
Yup. Go full muppet or go home.
Can't knock the ambition.
However I was thinking instead of it like this, Darmian covers both fullbacks, McNair can be our own Stones, Pereira is coming through and with Blind, Herrera and Strootman I'm not sure we need quite so many CM additions, of course Blind will need competition soon as Carrick will be 34 next season so I'd love to see us buy Tielemans.Can't knock the ambition.
Have to admit, that seems a way more practical and organic approach that the one I suggested. But you know, I look around at some of the squads around Europe these days, specifically Bayern and Madrid's, and it makes me so jelly considering how far we really are from the true elites in terms of genuine quality.
The likes of McNair look great right now, but we've been tricked before into thinking we could rely on a bunch really young players for the long term. I know it sounds horrible and against the spirit of United but it is what what it is, given our recent history with academy graduates and their sputtering progress.
Wish that just for once, we should throw caution out of the window and sign as many established player we can lay our hands on before our competitors do, now that the Glazers have loosened the purse strings a bit and Woody wants more signature signings to attract sponsors. Otherwise, the saved up money is inevitably going out of the club anyway. Might as well extract the maximum out of the Adidas and Chevrolet deals while there's an intent to get us back to the top.
Since we're in the muppet mood sell Mata and bring in Isco at the top of the diamond.
.......Blind
Koke....Di Maria
.......Isco
.Falcao..Rooney
If Rooney and Falcao will return to their real form they will be non stop provided with highest quality assists with that amount of creative talent. With Strootman and Herrera supporting this line up it could easily work.
Still not sure about Mata but he may be benched as well if he's still in denial of confidence in his own abilities.
I know common football logic doesn't apply to Madrid and undervalued players, but would Isco be surplus to requirements considering he's going through a renaissance period of sorts ? Staying close to the topic, recent media speak of Bale having one foot out of the door. Wouldn't mind it if we signed him fwiw, not one bit.
Since we're playing football manager here;
Out:
Fletcher
Cleverley
Young
In:
McCarthy
Strootman
Depay
Stones
Easy...
Out:
Fletcher
Cleverley
Young
In:
McCarthy
Strootman
Depay
Stones
Easy...
lol, no thanks
In (January)
Vidal
Garay
In (Summer 2015)
Hummels
Strootman
Pedro
Clyne/Coleman
Vidal
Garay
In (Summer 2015)
Hummels
Strootman
Pedro
Clyne/Coleman
He might actually have a good season for us,bit early to judge him don't you think seeing as alot of us waited years on giving Anderson a chance?
Have to admit, that seems a way more practical and organic approach that the one I suggested. But you know, I look around at some of the squads around Europe these days, specifically Bayern and Madrid's, and it makes me so jelly considering how far we really are from the true elites in terms of genuine quality.
The likes of McNair look great right now, but we've been tricked before into thinking we could rely on a bunch really young players for the long term. I know it sounds horrible and against the spirit of United but it is what what it is, given our recent history with academy graduates and their sputtering progress.
Wish that just for once, we should throw caution out of the window and sign as many established player we can lay our hands on before our competitors do, now that the Glazers have loosened the purse strings a bit and Woody wants more signature signings to attract sponsors. Otherwise, the saved up money is inevitably going out of the club anyway. Might as well extract the maximum out of the Adidas and Chevrolet deals while there's an intent to get us back to the top.
I can see where you are coming from but I also think that we can balance investment and balance. For instance if the idea of a top class squad is to have two options for every position, I think this is pretty good.
Centerbacks
RCB - Garay/Jones/McNair
LCB - Laporte/Rojo/Blackett
Fullbacks
Shaw
Rafael
Darmain
Holding Midfield
Blind
Carrick
Tielemans
Box to Box Midfield
Herrera
Strootman
Di Maria
Pereira
Wide Forwards
Memphis
Januzaj
Nani
Lingard
Strikers
Rooney
Falcao
RvP
Wilson
We waited a lot more years than I would have. I am just looking at the near certainty we will bring Strootman in, once he comes and you add him to Blind, Herrera and Carrick with Di Maria and Rooney also likely to play games as part of the 3 man midfield, I think it makes sense to trim the herd and remove the weakest member.
I would agree in trimming the squad but I don't see a problem in giving the guy a chance to prove himself or become a useful squad player.
What happens if we get a midfield injury crisis next season
I would agree in trimming the squad but I don't see a problem in giving the guy a chance to prove himself or become a useful squad player.
What happens if we get a midfield injury crisis next season
You can only carry so many players per position, our insane CB injury crisis is not normal, most teams don't use more than 4 CB's all season, so if we had 6 CM's and young Pereira also coming through, I think it makes sense to remove a big wage and recoup some transfer value at the same time by removing a player who at 28 is as good as he's going to get.
We don't even know if well get to sign these other midfielders or if the youth players will make the grade,Welbeck was a bright prospect and he didnt reach the level that was required of him.
If Fellani has a good season for us Id have no problem holding on to him,I just think its a bit soon to add him to the departures list as we havent seen enough of him and I wouldnt count last seasons performances as most of the team played crap.
While it's not normal for a club to have such an injury crisis, it's not anything out of the norm for Smalling, Jones or Evans to be injured and that's where the problem lies. If I was to pick a date, let's say the second weekend of February, would I expect to have any of those three players to be match fit and have a few games under their belt? The answer is absolutely not. I don't expect that to be the case, there will be one or two injured and the other will be coming back from an injury or half fit.
That's a huge problem.
Fwiw - I've set a note on my phone to remind me to check their injury status on that date to see how accurate that prediction is.
I'd have him for free version happily. Would add experience and a leader into defence which we desperately need.
buy vlaar.... and maybe a right back
A focus on the spine of the team
A focus on youth
More of the dead wood gone
Reliable players
A focus on youth
More of the dead wood gone
Reliable players