British citizens have very few rights sadly.
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British citizens have very few rights sadly.
But didn't Brexit give you back control?
I don't think they will rip up currently issued visas... But when it comes to renew.
My girlfriend's is working on a post graduate visa after completing her studies is due to run out at the end of 2024, her company has said that will sponsor her but with the new salary she will have to ask for a salary increase aswell, so we are a bit scared of the outcome. She's going to ask for sponsorship tomorrow before the April deadline.
Otherwise it'll be a quick rush down the registry office
It gave us that slogan. At the end of the day, isn't that better than being able to feed your kids?
I have been making plans to leave this country for a while. I mean I spend nearly half the year outside this country. This country is hostile to immigrants.
13 years ago while I was in uni, Theresa May made us queue up like outcasts to sign some silly attendance just because we were foreign students. We even paid thousands of pounds for the humiliation.
I thought it couldn’t get worse than that. I tell all my Nigerian friends who want to pay a fortune to study in the UK, “don’t even think about it. Go to a friendlier country”. Not one that will take your money and treat you like shit.
The sad part is immigration in not even a real issue. It’s perceived. I am a citizen now but don’t even feel like one.
13 years ago while I was in uni, Theresa May made us queue up like outcasts to sign some silly attendance just because we were foreign students. We even paid thousands of pounds for the humiliation.
I thought it couldn’t get worse than that. I tell all my Nigerian friends who want to pay a fortune to study in the UK, “don’t even think about it. Go to a friendlier country”. Not one that will take your money and treat you like shit.
The sad part is immigration in not even a real issue. It’s perceived. I am a citizen now but don’t even feel like one.
It's just absurd. There's such little thought put into this, it's just "make it look like they're stealing the jobs!!".
So short sighted and stupid. Hateful cnuty Government.
So short sighted and stupid. Hateful cnuty Government.
It just means the British have to do the lower paid menial jobs (or they don't get done) and immigrants get the higher paid jobs - stay for a couple of years and go away.
Ingenious brexit strategy.
So we just did my wife's renewal last month and the lawyer in her letter for support said it infringes in our rights to a private life or something if she was refused
We met the criteria fine but when she wrote that I thought it was interesting and wonder what the case is if you don't meet the criteria but have settled in life in terms of job, kids etc
But yeah, it's outrageous that people can't be with loved ones anymore. I did see a post in a Facebook group and made me think, I wonder if it is still just for non British citizens bringing people on a family visa and that British citizens aren't impacted - but it's a stretch and unlikely
Those rights come from the Human Rights Act which apparently is terrible and that's why the government wants to get rid of it. Trebles all round!
Honestly, if you guys are sure you will get married and your girlfriend doesn't get a yes from her work then just do it
I imagine the Home office is going to be inundated with applications in the next couple months
Honestly, it won't be long at this rate before they have a problem keeping people in this country
Why do you think this? His words are always twisted for media soundbites. But he’s fairly consistent on policy messaging for working people.
I truly don’t get this idea that Starmer is centre right. Or even a centrist. All of his policies and full-text ideas are pro Europe, left of Blair, and fully costed. It doesn’t take much to read it all and see that.
Yes. I would like radical change. But I don’t think a polished Corbyn 2.0 that runs on vibes would galvanise anything like the amount of people needed to actually win.
Starmer is going to rip the tories a new one on this.
Way too lenient on immigrants.
Way too lenient on immigrants.
"Ooops" sorry, hope you keep on being pleased.
Lots of people I know with EV's who are far from satisfied, they keep finding faults, the 'power drain' when every thing is switched on, especially in bad weather, which leads also to 'destination anxiety' and for some I am told, costs are more, but good luck... "if the cap fits wear it..." as they say up here
I think the problem is people see EV vs Conventional as an either/or.
People will happily fill out a calculator that determines if a company car is a benefit, but not do the same for their domestic use car.
For huge swathes of people that are based in the right areas, drive certain distances and frequencies, and can(or will) charge in a manner that ICE car owners don’t need to worry about… Electric cars are so much cheaper, range is irrelevant and it’s nothing but upside.
For people on the other side of that divide, it’s always ‘EV’s are shit’.
It’s never been binary. I had an EV when it suited. Then a small diesel when it didn’t. And now no car because I don’t need one. I’d never say ‘my next car will be X’ right now. It would be daft to do so. The next car will be based on my life circumstances.
I worked in NZ and owned a Ute. I’ve not transplanted that mindset to London as it’s a different life.
I have spent around £20k for visa, nationalization applications, health surcharge, etc. for me and my wife over 10 years. It is ridiculous. I got to the end of so many job applications to be rejected because they didn't provide sponsorship. I urge all my friends to go to USA as well. Friends who went to USA have been so much better off; salary, life style and opportunities wise. Really messed up coming here.
The way I read the new rules was that the main visa holder needs to earn more than £38k, there are no restrictions to bring a spouse then. The spouse doesn't need to work but can work. Have I read it wrong?
It's not a great look is it? Yeah our country desperately needs your social care/healthcare labour, but you can't bring your family and have them benefit from living in the country you bring your much needed labour to.
I will not be voting at the next GE.
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After my masters, I was within a week of being sent back to Nigeria when I got an employer willing to sponsor my visa. That remains the most difficult point of my life. I was about to give up…I mean, I had already given up and bought my plane ticket.
What was even funny, I was over qualified for a lot of roles I ended up getting rejected for.
Employers would see my CV and virtually beg for me to join. Once they found out they needed to sponsor, I would not hear from them again.
I tell everyone not to bother with the UK. It’s a dead end.
Virtually all my secondary school classmates ended up in UK, US and Canada. On average the one who went to the other two countries are better off.
Just vote green instead.
@horsechoker no more Thai brides mate.
As someone who is married and thinking about doing a masters from UK, this is probably the end of that thought. A year ago you could bring your spouse as a dependent and had two years of a graduate visa to get work experience and then could get a sponsorship with a minimum salary of 26500. Now you can’t bring your dependent, the two year graduate visa will be reviewed, and the minimum salary threshold is 38500. They have made UK an unattractive destination for all foreign students.
I'm sure it will put off some. When I did my masters, about half of the students on our course were foreign and none of them had partners with them. I didn't realise it's such a thing tbh.
Feck knows how they're going to attract care workers, nurses and the like with that minimum threshold though.
I think the £38K limit doesn't apply to NHS and care workers as there is a terminal decline in local NHS and care workers.
Ah, ok, still expecting people to come here and do shitty care jobs without being able to bring their immediate family over will surely put off loads.
Policy isn’t important. What’s important is that Starmer is Prime Minister next at any cost.
If Starmer leads a government that is far further to the right than Cameron’s government was 10 years ago that’s a good thing as long as the current Tories aren’t up to their corruption anymore.
Or something
You should always vote. Vote Green. Political parties get money based on number of votes at national elections so your vote always counts for something.
Likewise if we have nothing other than a great Socialist revolution (which I'd be all for!) then we might as well stick with the corrupt Tories.
See, works both ways.
That'll show 'em.
What a fecking disgrace Labour are, no self respect to even explicitly oppose openly neo-fascist measures like this.
It may be that I'm becoming more of a far-left extremist with age though.
It may be that I'm becoming more of a far-left extremist with age though.
I’m not trying to show anyone. I’m an immigrant to this country and if Labour can’t oppose measures like this, I have no business voting for them.
If your on the left the only reason to vote would be if the conservatives are facing a huge collapse. It’s then probably worth the 10 minute walk to the polling station if it turns the tories into a single seat party.
But otherwise Starmer Labour is further to the right than David Cameron. So yeah I’ll be staying home playing MGSV on Election Day instead.
But otherwise Starmer Labour is further to the right than David Cameron. So yeah I’ll be staying home playing MGSV on Election Day instead.
I’m not British but I’m sorry for what for you’re experiencing. It’s not nice to read.
On the highlighted part the only thing I’d say is that perception is reality for a lot of people on particular issues, and immigration is one of those issues.
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MgsV, did you quantum leap here from 2015?
Yikes - was traveling and just read up. Boy is the decision to move to the UK a couple of years ago looking more and more stupid every day
Its only the game I’ve put enough hours into to be somewhat good. I tried Lies Of P recently and it was someone smashed me over the head with a PS5. I was embarrassingly awful.
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Personally I prefer P of P.
Its only the game I’ve put enough hours into to be somewhat good. I tried Lies Of Lies recently and it was someone smashed me over the head with a PS5. I was embarrassingly awful.
Whoops!
Then don't vote either? I'll be voting Green as my local Green candidate actually seems to give a crap.