Westminster Politics


I watch this, and I'm glad I see Sunak looking like a weak boy. Then I watch it and realise even when he's gone, we're left with a spineless sheep in Starmer. Is this the worst position UK politics has been in? It feels like it.
 
I watch this, and I'm glad I see Sunak looking like a weak boy. Then I watch it and realise even when he's gone, we're left with a spineless sheep in Starmer. Is this the worst position UK politics has been in? It feels like it.
,in my lifetime that was the day Thatcher was elected, and then reelected
 
What the hell is going on here. How many neutrality/impartiality rules has Hoyle broken by doing this visit.

 
What the hell is going on here. How many neutrality/impartiality rules has Hoyle broken by doing this visit.



His dad is a member of the House of Lords. He has also explicitly stated he is against Lords reform. He is a consummate establishment representative, but that is overlooked as he doesn't have a Southern accent.
 
Been listening to the former Health Secretary Matt Hancock giving his statements to the COVID inquiry.
Slimey git trying to exonerate himself.
Everyone else fault not his and pretending that he is telling the truth.
I don't believe a word of what he is trotting out.

Yesterday, there was a lady on the wireless who was in charge of a Care Home who had received a large number of patients from the NHS.
She said that on the very night Hancock was telling everyone that the Care Homes had all the PPE they needed, she was parked in a layby buying any PPE she could from other Care Homes.
They had set up a WhatsApp group so that each care home could identify what they had and what they needed so as to be able to trade.
And she said that Hancock claimed that he had written advice to all care homes on what they should and should not be doing. Rubbish she said. The only advice they had ever been given by Hancock was to wash their hands singing Happy Birthday.
 
I don't believe a word of what he is trotting out.

I don't think even he does, its par for the job.... apart from Frank Field I don't think I have believed any politician, when talking about themselves, since I was about 35 years old, that's about the time of the Oil Crisis, ROSLA, Nixon's resignation, 3-day week, State of Emergency in NI and major local government re-organisation, none of the leading politicians of the day told the truth about their part in things, except I suppose Nixon.... well at least he resigned!
 


Greek newspapers are legit catering to conspiracy theorists sometimes.

Among other things, the paper accuses Sunak of being a goldmann sachs plant (also calls him rat faced, and that he's in cahoots with the Turkish government, and claims that King Charles is secretly a christian orthodox and he should intervene.

Finally they called Elgin a "katsaplias", which is a slur reseved for mainly for hideously untalented football players.
 
I don't think even he does, its par for the job.... apart from Frank Field I don't think I have believed any politician, when talking about themselves, since I was about 35 years old, that's about the time of the Oil Crisis, ROSLA, Nixon's resignation, 3-day week, State of Emergency in NI and major local government re-organisation, none of the leading politicians of the day told the truth about their part in things, except I suppose Nixon.... well at least he resigned!

Hancock should remember that he is under oath having been sworn in as in a normal court of law.

As you rightly point out, it is highly regrettable that we have zero faith in what politicians are saying.
Maybe twas ever thus.

But only this morning, there was a Tory lady at the COP28 trying to convince us that the roll backs in the UK climate change policies, such as listening new coal mining and new oil and gas fields in the north sea, plus Sunak ridiculous changes to electric vehicles from 2030 to 2035 will have 'no change at all to the UK net zero' pledges.
I mean honestly.
 
Hancock should remember that he is under oath having been sworn in as in a normal court of law.

As you rightly point out, it is highly regrettable that we have zero faith in what politicians are saying.
Maybe twas ever thus.


But only this morning, there was a Tory lady at the COP28 trying to convince us that the roll backs in the UK climate change policies, such as listening new coal mining and new oil and gas fields in the north sea, plus Sunak ridiculous changes to electric vehicles from 2030 to 2035 will have 'no change at all to the UK net zero' pledges.
I mean honestly.

It's when they are talking about themselves more than anything else when I disbelieve most, they either 'won the war on their own" or it was "entirely, not their fault".
As far as the net zero is concerned, the argument seems to be instead of laying ourselves open to being 'hostages to fortune' in buying in coal, oil and gas, we will develop more of our own sources, oh yes the price for doing this is we overshoot on net zero... but they don't admit the last bit. The electric cars thing is 'for the birds' anyway, lots of development needed yet on batteries, weight to power ratio's etc. I can't believe anyone really believes this stuff anyway!
 
It's when they are talking about themselves more than anything else when I disbelieve most, they either 'won the war on their own" or it was "entirely, not their fault".
As far as the net zero is concerned, the argument seems to be instead of laying ourselves open to being 'hostages to fortune' in buying in coal, oil and gas, we will develop more of our own sources, oh yes the price for doing this is we overshoot on net zero... but they don't admit the last bit. The electric cars thing is 'for the birds' anyway, lots of development needed yet on batteries, weight to power ratio's etc. I can't believe anyone really believes this stuff anyway!

There will inevitably be development on EV Batteries and the cars in general. And incidentally I am hoping that more of them will be made here in the UK.
But I have an EV and I couldn't be more pleased with it. Yes they are a bit heavier, assuming you don't drive a ridiculous sized SUV. But the performance is excellent, as is the cost of driving.
 
There will inevitably be development on EV Batteries and the cars in general. And incidentally I am hoping that more of them will be made here in the UK.
But I have an EV and I couldn't be more pleased with it. Yes they are a bit heavier, assuming you don't drive a ridiculous sized SUV. But the performance is excellent, as is the cost of driving.
How often do you charge it?
 
How often do you charge it?

This should really be in the Electric Car thread.
I have an MG4 51KWH with the LFP battery which can be charged to 100% and have only ever charged it at home with the Granny Charger. So I typically charge every week.
 
How often do you charge it?

I have exactly the same car as @Buster15 and usually top it up every 7 to 10 days at home.
Have calculated that with my previous car it would have cost over €300 in diesel - the new car has cost me around €25 in electricity for the same distance covered. Some saving.
 
I have exactly the same car as @Buster15 and usually top it up every 7 to 10 days at home.
Have calculated that with my previous car it would have cost over €300 in diesel - the new car has cost me around €25 in electricity for the same distance covered. Some saving.
I didn't know it was that good to be fair! That's some battery.
 
There will inevitably be development on EV Batteries and the cars in general. And incidentally I am hoping that more of them will be made here in the UK.
But I have an EV and I couldn't be more pleased with it. Yes they are a bit heavier, assuming you don't drive a ridiculous sized SUV. But the performance is excellent, as is the cost of driving.

"Ooops" sorry, hope you keep on being pleased.

Lots of people I know with EV's who are far from satisfied, they keep finding faults, the 'power drain' when every thing is switched on, especially in bad weather, which leads also to 'destination anxiety' and for some I am told, costs are more, but good luck... "if the cap fits wear it..." as they say up here ;)
 
I didn't know it was that good to be fair! That's some battery.

It's quite a small range - around 350km but I don't do high mileages any more and haven't used a public charger yet. But like all cars you buy a car to adapt to your use. It's considerably cheaper charging it at home. Definitely wouldn't go back to petrol/diesel cars now. I used to have a 3 litre petrol Jag before my previous diesel and this has faster acceleration than that. Boy racer car.
 
But like all cars you buy a car to adapt to your use

Spot on Paul, the one person I know who is in favour of her new EV is a widow who exchanged her husbands 'gas guzzler' (after his death). She only does two trips a week to her local supermarket and one or twice a month to see her granddaughter who lives about 30-35 miles away. She does admit to 'destination anxiety' when she occasionally stops over the weekend with her granddaughter and she immediately has to find somewhere to charge before she sets off home.

"Horse for courses... eh?
 
Spot on Paul, the one person I know who is in favour of her new EV is a widow who exchanged her husbands 'gas guzzler' (after his death). She only does two trips a week to her local supermarket and one or twice a month to see her granddaughter who lives about 30-35 miles away. She does admit to 'destination anxiety' when she occasionally stops over the weekend with her granddaughter and she immediately has to find somewhere to charge before she sets off home.

"Horse for courses... eh?

Never had destination anxiety, there are loads of public chargers everywhere and I live in the middle of the countryside. But if you did more mileage then they'd get a more long range car. Plus it was cheap to buy and very cheap to run. Complete new world
 
I have exactly the same car as @Buster15 and usually top it up every 7 to 10 days at home.
Have calculated that with my previous car it would have cost over €300 in diesel - the new car has cost me around €25 in electricity for the same distance covered. Some saving.

That is excellent isn't it. And probably a whole lot more fun.
 
Never had destination anxiety, there are loads of public chargers everywhere and I live in the middle of the countryside. But if you did more mileage then they'd get a more long range car. Plus it was cheap to buy and very cheap to run. Complete new world

100%.
In the summer I was getting almost 5 miles/kWh and a range of 250 miles/400 km.
 
This will be catastrophic for sectors such as the NHS and Care who rely on migrants.



It's a joke of an announcement, but people arriving on health or social care visas will be exempt from the new salary threshold.
 
Yep just seen that but they can’t bring spouses who earn less than the threshold.

Yeah, and anybody who meets somebody abroad and who wants to bring them over to continue the relationship now need to earn £38,700. So basically if you're young and met somebody you've got no chance.
 
As a nurse, this is going to be a huge problem. We already rely so heavily on oversees nurses and health care workers. Half my ward are made up of nurses from the Philippines and India. They have all come with their families because they could in the past. Can see this as a massive deterrent now.
 
As a nurse, this is going to be a huge problem. We already rely so heavily on oversees nurses and health care workers. Half my ward are made up of nurses from the Philippines and India. They have all come with their families because they could in the past. Can see this as a massive deterrent now.

Yes but the British public dying en masse due to worker shortages in the health sector is a small price to pay for making an arbitrarily calculated number smaller.
 
This is honestly disgusting - especially the family route one

My wife is on a spousal visa and whilst we meet the new criteria, the jump is absolutely appalling. They are genuinely breaking relationships and families in doing this

I can only assume/hope that people who are already on the visa can continue on the same requirements they were granted on. Because it would rip even more families apart otherwise
 
This is honestly disgusting - especially the family route one

My wife is on a spousal visa and whilst we meet the new criteria, the jump is absolutely appalling. They are genuinely breaking relationships and families in doing this

I can only assume/hope that people who are already on the visa can continue on the same requirements they were granted on. Because it would rip even more families apart otherwise

Do the Spousal requirements not infringe upon the rights of actual citizens? It's crazy to me that there is even a barrier to entry.