I assumed they'd needed a prescription until now?
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Thanks- hate unsourced quotes, particularly with the bollox swirling around on social media these days.
Fair point, but net net it's clearly a vote winner, eg the polls in favour of Rwanda etc...
I dont see ANY country in the EU doing a Rwanda scheme. First because is despicable even for a government. And second because the European Court of Human Rights had ruled that is illegal. Do you think that any goverment even will think on trying?
I think that before the 24 hour news programmes, there were only a few news broadcasts. Maybe 2 or 3 a day.
So, perhaps quite naively, we tended to tune in to hear the news because there was so much less of it. And it was mainly the major headlines rather than the plethora of news we have today of all kinds.
But yes you are probably right.
I think we were first movers on Rwanda in Denmark. I haven't seen any sign of our politicians being deterred by this ruling yet.
https://fullfact.org/news/sir-jake-... currently,deportations have ever taken place.
Didnt happen and after this ruling will never happen
The town I live in has its population increase by 40% and still rising due to more houses being built. Schools obviously are being added but there has been no increase in any kind of healthcare service, no new GP locations, no new hospitals, nothing.
The same services are expected to deal with the increase in population while funding is being cut all over the place. So many of my wife's colleagues have quit as they can't deal with the increasing work load and pressure.
Made me chuckle...
As someone below said, Denmark have already signed an agreement with Rwanda. Italy with Albania. Feels bad picking out individual countries but the likes of Hungary and Portugal may be asked to take a larger share of refugees.
This isn’t me trying to defend the policy, I fecking detest it. But I’m am saying that other countries are absolutely waiting to see what happens here.
Not sure what you’re trying to prove with that link, no one has claimed anyone has been sent to Rwanda from Denmark. No one has gone from the UK to Rwanda yet either. Denmark haven’t gone ahead with the plan because they’re looking for an EU wide solution to it. Ie. All countries sending refugees outside the EU for processing.
The plutocrats need someone to blame for the lack of prosperity in the country to avoid people turning their eyes towards them. Immigrants are the easiest target.
Problem is that none of the major parties can combat that fallacy without acknowledging that the former is the problem. And none of them are doing that anytime soon.
What do you mean "didn't happen"? The Danish government is looking into deportations to Rwanda and did so before I heard any talk of it in the UK.
There's some big differences, the Danish scheme was for processing, not deportation, successful applicants could return (as far as I can work out), the UK scheme is permanent deportation, there's no processing involved, they aren't coming back
Yes you're right but they didn't really tell the truth much of the time then and that goes way back to before TV and Radio for that matter
This is definitely true. We will see what this leads to though. For example, I do not see Italy deporting all of their arrivals into Albania, and then taking them all back again. There are a lot of countries in the EU with little appetite for immigration, but I’m not sure how much longer the population of countries like Sweden and Germany will continue to take in refugees without sharing the responsibility.
Probably a discussion for a different thread anyway.
I think a big chunk of the arrivals in Italy come in thru Albania via the Albanian mafia trafficking gangs, so essentially they're sending them back to where they came from
But yes - this topic should probably have it's own thread
Harsh on Scott Hall and Kevin Nash.
Politicians have always put their own spin on things. But, maybe it‘s the distorting effect of time and nostaligia, I seem to remember politicians telling outright lies only in extreme situations (the sinking of the Belgrano for example) or for relatively minor matters. We’ve never had someone like Johnson who just lies as easily as he breathes, nor have we had an equivalent of this Rwanda scheme -a “solution” which, besides being horrendously expensive, cannot remotely deal with the immigration issue and is designed merely as a culture war tactic to fire up the gammons.
That doesn't really matter as the current system takes ages to process people. So you're effectively flying asylum seekers to Rwanda just for them to sit around in an unsafe country and wait indefinitely. What if they're turned down? Are they flown home or are they Rwandans now? I don't think anyone really knows and that's part of why it's such a stupid idea.
Sack ten Hag, sell Bruno
Don’t turn your back on the Wolfpack, you mind wind up in a bodybag
Someone left the gate open at the Cnut farm.
Hey Yo!
But didn't make any deportation and will not do any after the last ruling to the UK. I thought I said that I don't see any EU country doing this, didn't I? Denmark looked into it but didn't deport no one
My comment, which you quoted, was because @Dan_F said that he can see other European countries doing something similar. How will that happens when the European Court of Human Rights already said a precedent that is illegal?
Denmark maybe tried to start it, but surely he will scrap it after that
And @Dan_F , hope this answer a bit your quotation also. I don't see any european country doing anything similar after the ruling of the ECHR. it would not make sense
Jesus christ. Are these people really the best representatives of the British public? Having worked with the public for many years, I know there are some proper idiots out there, but there were also some with enough brain power to consider whether they had anything insightful to say before going on national TV to out themselves as a total cnut...
First woman doesn’t belong with the 2nd there, her idea isn’t particularly cnutish or stupid. CTF151/150 use them all the time.
I do wonder what happened to Suella Braverman to make her so consumed by hate for everyone and everything.
She has no redeeming characteristic at all.
She has no redeeming characteristic at all.
Its a career move. She will make millions on the US right wing speech circuit, she just needs to get shoved out of the tory party to really get her credentials sorted. That is what she is currently trying to force, just as she forced her sacking as home secretary.
Very true.
TBH I doubt anyone here has a clue who she is, Farage has that gig sown up at the moment
There's always space for minority women who peddle a racist and/or sexiest agenda
Fortunately or unfortunately, the US right wing speech grifter raquet has a few prequisites for women to be successful (given their main target demo) , one of them being they have to be either white or conventionally attractive, which rules Suella out.
True but they don't need to import them, there's plenty to choose from here already
What happened her? Did the mask slip or did her husband brain wash her
My ex was at university with her and said she's always been a nasty piece of work. More likely she had help writing her speech from someone who was less terrible.
