Under normal circumstances, 126 arrests out of a crowd estimated anything between 200,000 to 800,000 would be classed as of no problems.
But due to the Home Secretary comments, the narrative was always going to focus on the so called troublemakers.
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Under normal circumstances, 126 arrests out of a crowd estimated anything between 200,000 to 800,000 would be classed as of no problems.
But due to the Home Secretary comments, the narrative was always going to focus on the so called troublemakers.
Staged on behalf of Gove, likely on behalf of Suella as she's vying for the leadership and promises him a bigger job.
Crack on with that! Most on the right see them as impotent on the issue and those in the centre and left know how ghoulish they are about it!!!
Given the amount of energy Braverman put into an escalation, anyone else think this makes her look more like a thick minnow than an evil mastermind?
She used her role as home secretary and darling of the right press to unite the knobheads for a cause and all she got was basically 1/1000 th of all the hooligans in the country. Hardly impressing is it?
She used her role as home secretary and darling of the right press to unite the knobheads for a cause and all she got was basically 1/1000 th of all the hooligans in the country. Hardly impressing is it?
The Tories are shit scared of the far right as the natural inclination of their party leans that way, so they see it as a threat to their ability to stay in power by bleeding votes and support to those fringe, Farage/Tice parties.
They shit themselves over losing two MPs to UKIP that they fecked the country via the Brexit referendum, so she is just trying to invoke the same stuff.
It's not about the amount of hooligans she can manifest, it's that she can do that at all, it's showing public support and more crucially, the internal racists in the Tory party get to see her acting like a tinpot Marie Le Pen.
I was speaking to someone yesterday lunch time who was telling me "it's all kicking off in London, thousands and thousands of Muslims". When I looked it up later the only people who'd been kicking off in the morning were the racist hooligan counter protesters. It's sad, how people can deliberately write stuff to stir up civil unrest and there is no standards commission that can hold them accountable I just can't understand.
Tend to agree with all those points. However I can't help but feel a bit relieved every time one of these far right nutters efforts end in little more than a showing of the idiots we already knew existed. I always fear way more of them show up after all the attention their stupid causes get (or that she succeeds in uniting these nutters with those actually attending the memorials, which as far as I can tell, failed miserably).
It's about allowing those who believe this shit cover and visible imagery of people like them doing stuff like this. It's a collective which makes them feel emboldened
It's more concerning that Harry Hill has let himself go after watching that.
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2024 - Nigel Farage runs for Leader of the Conservative Party.
100% he's trying to line this up.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politic...e-powers-ban-pro-palestinian-protests-review/
Sliding towards fascism…
Sliding towards fascism…
Didn't he say recently it's literally his plan?
Has he actually said it?
It's been obvious for a while that he's been positioning himself for a run at it.
If the world was normal I'd say it would be impossible, but the Torys have leeched so far to populist right wing, I wouldn't bet against it, looking at the likes of Braverman he might even be seen as a less extreme alternative.
Christ, anyone in the UK even remotely considering voting Tory would surely have to reconsider if there was even the slightest chance of that feckwit becoming leader.
If he'd done that at a pro-Israeli rally the outcome would have been the same, doesn't seem to understand that everyone thinks he's a complete cnut!
Look how the Tories welcomed him at their recent Conference. A few years ago, the Tories wouldn't have touched him with a bargepole, now as others have said, they are sliding so far right, it seems only a matter of time before he is putting himself forward and there isn't any credible centre right person who can stop him.
Could be a fantastic opportunity for a new party to come in and occupy the centre right.
Inb4 labour jokes.
Inb4 labour jokes.
I think if there had not been a 'protest' march planned this weekend then the idiots at the cenotaph would not have had an excuse to turn up with their version of protest, which is always violent, and could have been predicted as accurately as the sun rise.
'Protest' and 'Remembrance' are not the same thing.*
People who believe the UK government should call for a full ceasefire in Gaza have every right to organise and take part in a Protest March, in the country's capital city, I just feel it would have been more effective for the protest's cause to have deferred for this weekend.
*see above... no 'mental gymnastics' needed, just common sense.
Those peaceful anti-war marchers were asking for it…
fecking peaceful protesters forcing those EDL bastards to come down and be bastards. Not like they had a choice, the poor flag munching, pork pie waving twats that they are.
I just wish that protestors avoided having their protests on days when the world's media will be there. They should protest on quiet days when nobody will notice what they're doing.
I just wish that protestors avoided having their protests on days when the world's media will be there. They should protest on quiet days when nobody will notice what they're doing.
It wasn't even on Remembrance Sunday though. If anything, doing it the same weekend minimises disruption in the capital. How many days either side of Remembrance Sunday would be acceptable out of interest? And how many Palestinian children die per day?
I think you’re absolving the government in having any part to play in the incident at the cenotaph with their dog whistling and labelling it as a hate march. The other important element is that the Palestine March wasn’t even by the cenotaph…so any unsavoury presence there has very little to do with the protestors.
The incident all over is just weird though. Why attack police defending the cenotaph if you want to defend the cenotaph?
It was Remembrance weekend.
It wasn't about minimising disruption, at least for me, it was about staging a political protest, i.e trying to put pressure on the UK government to change its stance on calling for a full ceasefire in Gaza, on this particular weekend. Albeit a legitimate protest for many people in the UK, also for many people in the UK the Remembrance weekend is a special/honoured time and for many of such people political protest and remembrance should not be mixed.
It was obvious that certain parties would drum up tensions and that would bring various 'Numpty's' on to the streets, and that most likely it would be the Saturday. If the organiser's could not have anticipated this then that is unfortunate, presumably the Police did.
Michele Obama was once quoted as saying "when the opposition goes low, you go high", this in my opinion was a chance to win more hearts and minds in the UK by 'going high' and thereby, either postponing the march until the following weekend, or by calling for it the protest' to become a silent vigil, with no political banners or the shouting slogans in respect for the nature of the weekend in the minds of the public.
Have no idea how many children die in Palestine per day... one per day would be one too many!
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That's not a thing.
There's no such event as Remembrance Weekend I'm afraid, a new construct to have a go at the protesters. A Christian goes to church on a Sunday, it doesn't make it church weekend.
I tend to agree with you, but with Saturday being 11th November, this weekend has been slightly different.
Not that I believe an anti-war demo should be prohibited on any day of the year.
Apparently the draconian powers they have to stop any protest which is noisy or disruptive are not enough.
It was this a year,* with both Armistice day and Remembrance Sunday being on following days, a point which seems to have escaped the organiser's.
There is ....See above*
Its not a question of 'having a go at the protesters,' its about their own ability to undermine their own actions by not thinking things through.
That's the whole point, the protest was not being prohibted, the Police had already said they were allowing it. The onus was on the organisers, to garner even further support amongst the general public, by either offering to move to another weekend or turning the protest into a silent vigil, without banners, without chants, etc.which would have been more in keeping with the mood and theme of Remembrance.
Can't help feeling the organisers missed an opportunity this weekend to get their message across to a range of people amongst the general public who otherwise would have not even noticed their protest, and at the same time by their lack of foresight have opened the door to others who want to demonise what they are calling for.... the government is off the hook!
Christ. What a cnut.
She’s utterly shameless and vile. Sunak is pathetic for not firing her (and for appointing her in the first place).
Everyone: “Christ, Priti Patel is the worst”
Bravercunt: “hold my beer”
Bravercunt: “hold my beer”
It is a good job the Tory government announced that the country was not racist in 2021. As soon as Braverman reads that report I'm sure she will correct herself.