Serious bad news for Labour.
Westminster Politics
- Thread starter altodevil
- Start date
How's that serious bad news for labour? That constituency has been Tory since it's inception, surely the fact that is now even close is serious bad news for Tories rather than labour?
Clearly Labour lost due to the ULEZ policy which seems to be an anti ULEZ vote rather than for the Tories. I’m sure the Tories will be celebrating and selling this to the media tomorrow. Feckin thick Tory voters can’t tell the difference between local and National decisions. Also turnout is much lower than expected for a General election.
Last edited:
Slightly misleading as the general election result few months earlier saw a 12.4% swing to Labour which resulted in a narrow Labour loss. The Tory MP who won died not long after, resulting in the bi-election which the Tories won with a bigger majority on a lower turnout. The 1997 GE result was the biggest swing to Labour the constituency ever had until 2017 when Labour got a 13.6% swing in their favour but still lost by a bigger majority than in the 1997 GE.
Point stands though that Uxbridge has been Tory forever (literally) so not winning the seat is hardly a disaster.
Tories lost to a child.
Basically these results show that although the the country wants rid of the Tories, tactical voting is clearly going to be the most important thing at the GE.
What a horrible place the UK is in though that of all the issues facing the country, a policy ULEZ, introduced originally by Cons, was the only thing campaigned on to be decisive enough to hold seat. Something that the newly elected MP is powerless to change.
Labour hold a lot of seats in London and if this is shown to be as unpopular as it's beginning to feel, they must be a little nervous how this might impact their numbers at the GE.
People are generally quite selfish, although the scheme is primarily about air pollution, the fact it's generating a lot of money will be spun in a way that it's nothing to do with air quality. Be interesting to see how Lab handle this, I don't see Khan dropping the policy as he will look weak. On the other hand Starmer needs to tread carefully on this. It needn't be an election determining factor but I get the feeling it will play a massive role in GE debates. The fact these schemes are going to increase in other areas around the UK, the right wing media will ramp up a lot of negativity and talk about this non stop now, along with climate change denial.
What a horrible place the UK is in though that of all the issues facing the country, a policy ULEZ, introduced originally by Cons, was the only thing campaigned on to be decisive enough to hold seat. Something that the newly elected MP is powerless to change.
Labour hold a lot of seats in London and if this is shown to be as unpopular as it's beginning to feel, they must be a little nervous how this might impact their numbers at the GE.
People are generally quite selfish, although the scheme is primarily about air pollution, the fact it's generating a lot of money will be spun in a way that it's nothing to do with air quality. Be interesting to see how Lab handle this, I don't see Khan dropping the policy as he will look weak. On the other hand Starmer needs to tread carefully on this. It needn't be an election determining factor but I get the feeling it will play a massive role in GE debates. The fact these schemes are going to increase in other areas around the UK, the right wing media will ramp up a lot of negativity and talk about this non stop now, along with climate change denial.
Twat. The people voted for him and Boris made 29 year old a Lord.
Last edited:
He's not wrong about random inexperienced people being parachuted into constituencies they know feck all about. It applies to every major party and it should be criticised.
He fails to acknowledge that his party do the exact same thing though. Was Rishi born and raised in Yorkshire?
There was no need for the Inbetweeners jibe though and fully agree on parachuted candidates. Knowing the area, there was plenty of decent local candidates available.
Yeah was seeing this narrative that it's terrible if labour don't take Uxbridge all over Twitter last night and I'm like why exactly? It's a constituency they historically never win, the fact that it's that close is a loss for the Tories in itself. Tories just lost 2 seats and won a third by the literal skin of their teeth, they're finished.
What the Uxbridge result shows that most voters are selfish and a bit stupid. But woe betide anyone who points that's out.
Starmer is going to look at the effect of the ULEZ policy in Uxbridge and move further right
Probably a bit harsh. The ULEZ rollout right now is understandably a contentious issue when you look at the details. It was announced at a time when cost of living was spiraling and hasn't come under control, constituents were only given a 9 month warning window when previously it had been a year, and far more people own and rely on cars in that part of Greater London. Given the relatively low-impact the policy has been forecasted to have in air quality there, I get why people stayed away from the polls at the very least (although don't personally agree).
I can only imagine Uxbridge hasn't been part of the UK for the last however many years
Going from where they were in 2019 to "Well nobody expected us to win here"
Going from where they were in 2019 to "Well nobody expected us to win here"
It’s got nothing to do with him and his Government the thick Cnut. It’s an anti ULEZ vote.
We’ve had these type of anti something elections before. Labour lost one which was against the Iraq war. But come the general election, turnout increases and you can’t just rely on that anti vote so let the Tories enjoy this, it won’t last long.
Which shows just how bad at politics Labour are
And so they voted for the party who introduced ulez in the first place and at the same time putting aside the moral issues, these people don't pay mortgages or rent?
I don't agree with the thinking, but clearly the ulez issue is one that has impacted on the vote there. I think it's an interesting example of when local/national issues collide - and an example again of how difficult polling and forecasting can be.
Not really. Labour in a difficult position to oppose Khan. People also seem to forget this was introduced by Johnson and the roll out requested by Shapps to continue the finding. There is also the mix of Boris fans there who still voted Tory. Don’t think a Labour will be losing much sleep over it considering they’ve overturned one of the biggest majorities in their history. Also makes a mockery of the Tories claim that Starmer only focusing on London when he’s had a clear impact elsewhere.
If people are so thick they don’t know about local and national policies, you can’t blame Labour. Come the general election, they will win these seat and the swing is great for other seats.
People have had enough of it, but his constituents gave him a majority of over 4000? Maybe the Tories should stop telling people what they think.
It was part of the candidates manifesto. I’m not saying go against it but don’t campaign on it for Christ sake.
Going from where they were in 2019 to "Well nobody expected us to win here"
After over 40 years and 14 elections, and over 50% of the vote in the last one, nobody expected us to win here.
Record IHT tax take.
Last edited:
I get that he’s desperate to spin this as a positive result, but by saying Uxbridge was a shock he’s basically admitting that the Tories are facing a wipe-out at the next GE.
Good, increase it and pay for social care
Is that unexpected? Given inflation you'd expect a record take and IHT is a helpful deflationary policy here.
Oops, AJ Bell just sent a correction- should say £7.9bn, not £79bn. I was being too lazy to wade through the HMRC announcement myself, so used them.
Not sure if was expected or not. I'd have thought not, given the housing market has fallen.
Last edited:
Sunak is the ideal patsy who's going to take all the flak when the Tories (hopefully) get hammered in the GE. Bet you Penny Mordaunt is getting her ducks lined up as we speak.