Westminster Politics

Buster15 said:
That would be highly counterproductive.
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Like the recent anti protest laws?

Or the recent inclusion of "slow walking" as an illegal form of protest?

It would be counter productive for the masses but the Tories would love it. It could rejuvenate their right wing voters and finally break the unions which is what they have wanted since Thatcher. In short, they just don't care and are desperate enough to do it.
 
Furthermore he put the kiss of death on them - they lost on pens.

I once spoke to an Irishman so I know all about the troubles
I once spoke to a bus driver so I know all about transport
I once saw a tractor so I know all about agriculture
etc
 
TheGame said:
:lol: :lol: :lol: So cringe

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Wow. How inspiring is he. Makes me so proud that we have such a statesman for our Tory leadership team.
We should be pledging our ellgaince to Rushi Sunak instead of Kind Charlie.
3 cheers for Rushi...... complete silence.
 
Fluctuation0161 said:
Not a word about this?

"UK households missing out on £19bn a year in unclaimed welfare benefits
Complexity of system and perception of government handouts as ‘shameful’ stopping people from accessing much-needed support"
https://www.theguardian.com/society...-on-19bn-a-year-in-unclaimed-welfare-benefits
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So forget about fraud then? The article you posted highlights an important point. But it's illogical to me how that means fraud should be somehow brushed under the carpet.
 
ThehatchetMan said:


This is going to be huge when it comes out.
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I live in the area and Simon Clarke is my MP. Got blocked on Twitter when I started asking about all of this.

Note how not one of the Tory replies makes any suggestion that the claims are false.
 
Jericholyte2 said:
I live in the area and Simon Clarke is my MP. Got blocked on Twitter when I started asking about all of this.

Note how not one of the Tory replies makes any suggestion that the claims are false.
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Is this where redcar steel works and stuff used to be? Tata steel I think used to run it?

The north east and the redcar/Middlesbrough area is one of the poorest in the UK too. My in laws are from there.

That's an advert from Sunak gov right there. Robbing from the poor and giving to the rich.

I think this will gain traction when more evidence comes out.
 
ThehatchetMan said:
Is this where redcar steel works and stuff used to be? Tata steel I think used to run it?

The north east and the redcar/Middlesbrough area is one of the poorest in the UK too. My in laws are from there.

That's an advert from Sunak gov right there. Robbing from the poor and giving to the rich.

I think this will gain traction when more evidence comes out.
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It is indeed that area. Deregulate to make it easier to get approval for the Freeport, pump tons of public money in to getting the area worked, prepped and ready for it, then sell of to buddies and donors at a fraction of its value.

But look! Over there! There’s a coronation to celebrate!!! GOD SAVE THE KING!!!
 
fergieisold said:
So forget about fraud then? The article you posted highlights an important point. But it's illogical to me how that means fraud should be somehow brushed under the carpet.
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It's illogical to me how the government are happy to highlight and invest in marketing videos about fraud, which is a tiny proportion of total benefit outlay. Yet, as shown in this article, the real problem is that the benefit system is designed to be near impossible to navigate and comes with a stigma, which means people who are eligible are not claiming £19bn while living in poverty. This problem is driven by the UK government and media trying to deflect and blame benefit fraud for the state / our tax being wasted, when in reality it is not a significant value.

But by the tone of your posts it seems you buy in to the government line?
 
Fluctuation0161 said:
It's illogical to me how the government are happy to highlight and invest in marketing videos about fraud, which is a tiny proportion of total benefit outlay. Yet, as shown in this article, the real problem is that the benefit system is designed to be near impossible to navigate and comes with a stigma, which means people who are eligible are not claiming £19bn while living in poverty. This problem is driven by the UK government and media trying to deflect and blame benefit fraud for the state / our tax being wasted, when in reality it is not a significant value.

But by the tone of your posts it seems you buy in to the government line?
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I don’t buy into anything, I’m just pointing out in isolation benefit fraud is a problem. Unclaimed benefits is also a problem.
 
fergieisold said:
I don’t buy into anything, I’m just pointing out in isolation benefit fraud is a problem. Unclaimed benefits is also a problem.
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Countless things are problems in isolation. Common sense says you need to prioritise those problems and aim to fix the biggest ones first. Benefit fraud is way down that list.

Unless you don't want certain things fixing and need a scapegoat to distract attention away from them.
 
Internship available in local MPs office. Must be comfortable with fast paced environment and spending time under the bus...
 
Anyone following the council election results? Tories getting flogged as expected.
 
Adisa said:
Anyone following the council election results? Tories getting flogged as expected.
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Nah, if you listened to the radio you'd know that this is just a blip and people reacting to the Covid lockdowns. Also something to do with them hating Liz Truss. I've been reassured by independent think tank operator Tarquin Smythe-Worthington-Flimflam-Smythe that the Tories will win the next election so Labour voters shouldn't be motivated to persuade others to also vote for them. In fact, it's such a done deal that the Tories will win the real election that all Labour voters should just stay at home and draw pictures of Starmer clubbing a seal.
 
It's great to see the Tories suffering catastrophic results tonight, that go well beyond merely wanting to give the governing party a kicking. From what I've seen, many of the Tory councillors are even worse than their MPs (which is saying something), with plenty of racist, homophobic, transphobic etc. comments and behaviour from them in general.

Also I'm pretty optimistic that there will be pretty successful and co-ordinated anti-Tory tactical voting at the next GE. The Tories were already terrified about that when they lost those 2 by-elections, one to Labour and the other to the Lib Dems on the same night not long before Johnson resigned. Clearly Corbyn and Swinson despising each other preventing it from being remotely successful in 2019, but there is no such hostility between Starmer and Davey and plenty has changed since then.
 
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