Greens do well on a local level and I voted for them but when it comes to national politics, I wouldn't because their policies are largely unachievable and proposed because they know they are unlikely to ever be in a position to enact them.
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Greens do well on a local level and I voted for them but when it comes to national politics, I wouldn't because their policies are largely unachievable and proposed because they know they are unlikely to ever be in a position to enact them.
Yes, but I’ve always had them with me when voting. I’ve never had a situation where I didn’t receive it and I assumed in that situation you would show ID.
Whether it’s always been the case is not the point I’m making. I’m just surprised that you can tell someone your name and address to vote without the card.
That's been something that has led me to be reluctant to vote Green in the past too, but to be fair what party actually currently has achievable policies? Both Labour and the Tories are pursuing utter fantasies on their main policy point.
It’s never going to be a straight copy of national voting intentions in the locals. Lots of protest votes sure, but a lot of people actually know their local councilors.
Based on the results so fat i think the EU elections could be savage for Labour as well as the conservatives.
i wonder if we might see some compromise customs partnership waffle agreed on in an attempt to get the withdrawal agreement through before the elections to save face for both parties? - it gives May the excuse to go and it ensures corbyn does not have to wiggle out of any 2nd ref commitments
It's not really representative as a lot of people vote for independents/rate payers in council elections
What a load of drivel
Put an X in the box, or it's spoilt ballot.
Aye, it clearly says thats what you're meant to do ffs. Absurd.
Meanwhile Tories won my seat easily. This is the woman who said pot holes were a good thing because it slows drivers down and there's no real need to fix them.
What a load of drivel
Put an X in the box, or it's spoilt ballot.
You're supposed to cross the box, sure, but as long as you mark the ballot paper in a way that clearly indicates your preference to vote for one candidate you can mark your ballot paper how ever you like.
EU elections are even more of a protest vote than locals. People often stick with a party because they like their local councillors, but no-one knows who their MEP is so its even more of a free hit. So, sure, if there is a sense that people are unhappy with Labour Id say they're likely to perform even worse in the euros than the locals.
feck extremists. That's an ever better slogan for Change UK. I am sick of nutters setting the terms of the debate.
I think you missed the point, most of our historical moments in politics have originated from extremism not centrism. The right for women to vote and most equality legislation in fact were not born out of mainstream centrism they were born from extremist positions. 'Nutters' indeed.
At this point it'll take an extremist party to bother to deal with climate change.
May pressurised to quit (part 7093):
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...may-under-pressure-quit-local-election-losses
The BBC has both CON & LAB at 28% each, LIB at 19%...
Are there any turnout figures?
It says as much on the cards!
Labour Candidate won North of Tyne mayoral election, he's a Corbynite but turnout was only around 30%, seems a total waste of time to me
Exactly. How can this have counted as a vote for anyone?! If it is not an X in a box (and nothing else), it shouldn't be counted.What a load of drivel
Put an X in the box, or it's spoilt ballot.
Lib Dems are at my pub in city centre celebrating currently. You would honestly think they just won a general election the way they're getting on.
God forbid they celebrate getting back to normal after being annihilated for jumping into bed with Cameron.
Yeah, god forbid it.
If you weren’t having a go at them by saying that I apologise.
Not sure - It’s the climate deniers who are slowing meaningful political action. The mainstream scientific view is what shapes climate change thinking, not the nutters although nuts do better PR. I’m just not sure we have the same understanding of the word extremism. I meant more doctrinal extremes like communism and fascism, the sort of ideologies that attracts people of a particularly rigid or black or white way of thinking. Some brexiters show a similar rigidity.
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A net loss of 1,269 for the Tories 
Not even the worst case predictions before hand expected it to be that bad. Tories trying to say Labour are in the same boat because they had a net loss of 60 odd
Not even the worst case predictions before hand expected it to be that bad. Tories trying to say Labour are in the same boat because they had a net loss of 60 odd
So the most pro-Brexit of the major parites - the Tories - lose nearly 1300 councillors. The biggest gains come from the most anti-Brexit of the major parties - the Lib Dems. UKIP also lost.
And yet somehow, the govt and certain papers are trying to paint this as a vote for "gerronwivit" and anger at the Great Brexit Betrayal. It beggars belief.
And yet somehow, the govt and certain papers are trying to paint this as a vote for "gerronwivit" and anger at the Great Brexit Betrayal. It beggars belief.
Another way of looking at it - Tories lost record amounts of seats... and Labour still somehow failed to makes any gains. In the ninth year of opposition.A net loss of 1,269 for the Tories
Not even the worst case predictions before hand expected it to be that bad. Tories trying to say Labour are in the same boat because they had a net loss of 60 odd
I have heard Tories blame May entirely for their absolute disaster of an election.
I have seen Labour spin the fact that they lost over 100 to be not a bad night.
The country still haven’t got a clue what they actually want, the Lib Dem’s are rightfully celebrating.
Absolute clusterfeck
I have seen Labour spin the fact that they lost over 100 to be not a bad night.
The country still haven’t got a clue what they actually want, the Lib Dem’s are rightfully celebrating.
Absolute clusterfeck
A net loss of 1,269 for the Tories
Not even the worst case predictions before hand expected it to be that bad. Tories trying to say Labour are in the same boat because they had a net loss of 60 odd
They are to a certain extent. When you are the official opposition and you're facing such an incompetent executive it's utterly amazing not just to fail to capitalise on the failures, but to actually go backwards yourself. I mean ffs 2015 was a disaster for Labour locally as well as being a high point for the Tories. To continue to lose seats and councils from that low point, against this Tory party, after nine years in opposition is a terrible showing by any measure.
If this were football there would be chants of 'you're getting sacked in the morning'. I wouldn't be surprised if she's gone Monday.
Almost as if there was some kind of unique event going on in politics right now or something
Almost like a party trying to play both sides of said unique event is actually pissing off both.
BBC deputy political editor, John Penas
Good to see gains for independent candidates. In my ward, considering it's the PM's constituency, was a bit boring, candidate wise, with 2 candidates each from the 'main' parities and 1 independent.
I did use 1 of my votes for the independent, btw
I did use 1 of my votes for the independent, btw
Yeah, and the Tories and Labour are in the same brexit boat.
I think a lot of those independent candidates are quite right wing anti-Brexit types, which I can understand you might support personally, but I suspect the pundits and commentators haven't all figured that out yet.Good to see gains for independent candidates. In my ward, considering it's the PM's constituency, was a bit boring, candidate wise, with 2 candidates each from the 'main' parities and 1 independent.
I did use 1 of my votes for the independent, btw
They were on a local issues platform, so I voted on that basis.