Considering this guy's previous track record I'm afraid not. You can always trust him to read a Daily Mail headline and spend an hour acting like he's just come up with a brilliant argument against the woke left.
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Yep. It’s one thing to have problematic views on immigration, but to be openly laughing at people dying like that. I don’t understand how it’s possibly to react in that way.
The country is grinding to a halt and all the Tories have left is their appalling racism. Boris Johnson this morning calling for the UK to leave the European convention on human rights.
Place is fecked.
Place is fecked.
Boris Johnson’s Grandfather Sir James Fawcett is one of the authors of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. He will be turning in his grave at what an evil, insular and opportunistic toe rag his offspring turned out to be.
Strikes!
I can
Roy Chubby Brown used to sell out arenas and sell hundreds of thousands of VHS.
Farage is considered "a bloke you'd like to have a pint with...."
Katie Hopkins had columns in national newspapers.
That just shows their mentality doesn't it. They really think that the public number 1 priority at this difficult time is that the United Nations Human Rights Conventions are wrong and the UK is right.
Nothing to do with the cost of living crisis, or the dire state of the NHS.
12 years of the Tories in government and it has come to this. What a proud record eh.
This country is full of deplorables. This shower of a party won an 80 seat majority because of immigration.
Tories make billionaire ex-Mubarak minister senior treasurer
Mohamed Mansour, who served under Egyptian autocrat, given role fundraising in run-up to election
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-party-senior-treasurer-mohamed-mansour-egypt
Mohamed Mansour, who served under Egyptian autocrat, given role fundraising in run-up to election
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-party-senior-treasurer-mohamed-mansour-egypt
Imagine still voting for Tories after all this? Imagine ever voting for Tories if you werent a rich, inbred, public school chinless wonder.
Listening to Braverman talk about how 'all' of the safe and legal routes that we have & how it should render these 'illegal' crossings moot is just disgusting. Knowing how, under the select committee, she herself couldn't name a single one that wasn't to do with Syria, Afghanistan or the Ukraine.
We are truly dealing with pond scum in Westminster!
We are truly dealing with pond scum in Westminster!
I mean the country is in a shit state but let’s not lump 60 odd million people with 140 scumbags who posted laughing emojis.
Nah let's
Martin Lewis doing a bit of informal opinion polling from his Twitter account. 75% pro-strikers. Not a statistically balanced cross section of the population of course, but interesting.
Erm why?
I have mentioned this before.
If you look at the sheer number of inflatable boats that are being supplied by the people traffickers to those who are desperate enough to want to try to sail across the channel to England, surly it cannot be that difficult to stop the supply at source.
I mean how many companies actually make these boats, as well as the outboard motors.
Find out where they are getting the boats and motors from and stop the supply.
If the government really do care about the safety of the people, which we know they don't, spend a bit of time stopping the supply.
That way you break the people traffickers business model at source.
Providing legal routes for passage is a much better and easier way to stop people making money from providing illegal routes than restricting the sale of inflatable boats and outboard motors would be. It'd be like worrying about people buying from illegal drug dealers so banning lighters in case somebody used them to smoke a joint. Easiest way to stop people buying illegal drugs is to provide a legal option.
If you really want to look at tackling supply though, in fact the border agency should instead look into the many hundreds or thousands of businesses across the UK that profit from illegal labour. If there weren't jobs for these people to work in then many of them wouldn't be coming here. All those factories in Leicester supplying Boohoo, remember them? Big fuss and then not much. Boohoo hasn't had to double their prices for clothes I don't think...the border agency aren't doing their job but it's nothing to do with how many boats get across the channel.
Put a daily ferry on, at Dover bus the people to a decent immigration centre whilst their asylum claim is processed. Any that are not approved are returned to a country of choice outside of the UK
But it's not illegal to buy a boat, nor is it illegal to leave France or Belgium or wherever they sail from.
If the Uk government opened legal safe routes, the traffickers would be out of business.
Problem is the goverment don't want the focus to be taken away from the boat people because the real illegal immigrants are those overstaying their tourist visits. They know that Brexit is a disaster, they know the way they have run the country has been catastrophic, so the only thing left to focus on is immigration and they conflate all immigrants, legal, illegal, asylum seekers into one pot and tell the British people that immigrants = bad.
What does a trafficker care if a person has paid £5000 to him and the person ends up in Rwanda?
That is very fair.
But I was looking for a way to very quickly deny the illegal people traffickers their commodity. No inflatables nothing to sell.
Absolutely. It's nigh on impossible to "legally" apply for asylum by design.
It is these boats that provide the illegal people traffickers with their means of sale.
It could be made illegal to sell such boats people without a license.
But yes of course. The best way forward would be to provide safe routes of passage.
But that would be seen by the right wing Tories as being soft on immigration which is a no no.
They want to pretend that we don't need or want immigration by creating Little Britain.
I was just putting forward one of many practical solutions because it saddens me to hear of people especially children drowning by trying to get a better life.
But the boats are bought from all over the place. I remember one from a few months ago was bought in Stuttgart. You can't stop people buying boats. All different types of people buy boats all the time from all over the place. Why should people need a licence because the Uk government won't do the correct and sensible thing?
You also see some of the Tory MPs making comments like, why can't they stay in a safe European country like France, whereas France and Germany take far more asylum seekers than the UK does. The Uk government thinking is that they are furthest away from where the migrants are coming from, why should they take them. Trying to leave the ECHR to avoid taking migrants makes me feel revulsion at having been born in a country that is now so vile.
Sometimes a name from the past surprises you in a good way.
Actually an all round good bloke from the sounds of him.
Actually an all round good bloke from the sounds of him.
International trade department should be shut down, says Brexiteer who set it up
International trade department should be shut down, says Brexiteer who set it up (msn.com)
This is disgraceful:
It has nothing to do. The Minister, Kemi Badenoch, is also Minister for Women and Equalities she's so bored.
That’s just Tories they are robbing the tax payers blind
Question Time should be interesting tonight. Rees-Mogg is on along with the head of the nurses Union Pat Cullen
It all depends on your workmates. A Union is only as strong as it's members.
It's simple really. Making things illegal does not stop them happening.
Your idea would just lead to black market inflatables being dealt, like illegal drugs, on the black market. So although it may seem practical, it would be totally ineffective and also ignores the root cause of the problem, which is a lack of safe passage and/or legal methods for asylum application.
Solid hold by Labour yesterday, but a 25.8% turnout must be the lowest I've ever seen. The weather looks bad over there, but that's way worse than you'd see in the MEP elections back in the day.
I do take your point.
I decided to mention it again because a day ago there was a picture on the TV of many dozens of these boats lined up following these crossings across the channel.
And they are just used once including the engines.
Anyway, it is clearly a stupid idea to target the sellers of them to attempt to stop the supply. Just as stupid as sending those illegal immigrants to Rwanda.
I was watching the health secretary Stevens Barkley yesterday and there is a guy who so obviously is a total career politician.
He doesn't give a sh1t about the NHS or the nurses. All he seems interested in is trying to act tough to impress the Tories.
We all know that the 19% pay demand is just a negotiation position from which to agree a reasonable increase.
But all he repeats is the same crap about the independent pay review body.
He typifies this detestable type of politician who has never lived in the real world and yet loves to preach to the rest of us.
He doesn't give a sh1t about the NHS or the nurses. All he seems interested in is trying to act tough to impress the Tories.
We all know that the 19% pay demand is just a negotiation position from which to agree a reasonable increase.
But all he repeats is the same crap about the independent pay review body.
He typifies this detestable type of politician who has never lived in the real world and yet loves to preach to the rest of us.
