If he had been rebranded as Richard Sunak he would've won.
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How long before we see some bigger Tory MP's putting in letters of no confidence? After those car crash interviews this morning it can't be far away.
She. Is. A. Dis. Grace
Not sure how long she is going to last with performances like this but its hard to imagine he making it to two years
Two years? Its hard to imagine 2 months
at this rate yes
it seems down to if the conservative MP's will move against her - would seem crazy with such a sort premiership but a bad conference and who knows?
or will she have to call an early GE simply to stop them ousting her
Cant see a way currently for her to put a GE off till late 2024
Rock and a hard place. They know shes tearing the Tory party and the country apart but they also know that anything that would force a GE would on current polls result in half of them losing their cushty jobs and with that their side hustles.
If you leave her in place, they could end up in an even worse position for a GE. I think the most likely thing is that we see some self preservation and certain Tory MP’s will try to get out in front and be on record as the first to oppose her in the hope it saves their own bacon.
She's trying to do what Boris got away with so often, just kind of glide past difficult questions without answering, but she hasn't got the way of speaking and the mannerisms that let Boris get away with that.
The thing is, in Tory party rules, they can't oust her through no confidence motions and a new leadership challenge in the first year of her tenure.
So unless she willingly steps down after her own party turn on her, she could be there for a good while yet.
So unless she willingly steps down after her own party turn on her, she could be there for a good while yet.
technically the 1922 committee can at any point re-write the rules though cant they
If there is enough dissent, Starmer can call for a VONC which parliament votes on. At which point they only need around 33 Tories voting against her.
Yes, there's no way they are going to let her carry on for too long. Trying to make her resign may be the first step.
This will be juicy.
Its hard to know because for sure I don't think they would want another leadership contest so the question is then is there anybody the party could unite behind to appoint leader uncontested?
Hard to imagine Boris not challenging if they selected anybody but him but also hard to imagine the public suddenly forgetting the last year or so
His ego is big enough that he will back himself to win in 2024.
Oddly the pound strengthened shortly after 9.
There's two reasons that this is unlikely imo. Firstly, Boris might win. He would definitely win among Tory members, and if he stood but didn't get on the final poll because of MP votes, there'd be pandemonium. Secondly, five Prime Ministers in six years would hardly look any less chaotic than what's happening now under Truss. Their only hope now is that the economy grows.
If someone has to go, it'll be Kwarteng, with all of the blame piled on top of him.
Yes i think thats true (and i think he would at least do less bad than truss will)
Will he go before or after the November budget ... but yeah if your nickname is now kamikwasi then basically your done its just a matter if when not if
But this policy isn't from Kwarteng or Truss - it's a continuation of the fantasy Brexit dream of the ERG, Minford and co.. This is the final throw of the dice - Truss is the vacuous mouthpiece and maybe Kwarteng is the fall guy.
How is anyone going to have the faith to invest in the UK?
Really don't know where they go from here.
Truss advisers right now
Reality is worse, Truss wasn't even being interviewed by Paxman. I assume she did local radio in the first place because she thought she'd get an easy ride, instead she got destroyed by a bunch of regional radio presenters. I guess its fair to say she'll also be turning down the Andrew Neill interview come the next general election.
Can't remember a situation where the central bank are buy back bonds while increasing rates. Pretty sure Bailey will not be inviting Truss and Kwasi for Christmas.
Almost reminded me of that guy the BBC News accidently interviewed some years ago. Equally as unqualified
True but US treasuries are getting a bit close to illiquidity thresholds for comfort. Might not be the last time we see it.
this one is fairy juicy
yougov
23-25 september
Labour ..............45%
Conservative.....28%
Libs......................9%
Green...................7%
SNP......................4%
Reform................3%
plaid....................1%
Others.................2%
17 point lead
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politic...voting-intention-con-28-lab-45-23-25-sep-2022
There should be a rule in place that if a governing party are so shit they have to keep changing leaders it should automatically trigger a general election.
Otherwise they can just no confidence her before a GE and get someone more stable in. This way they can't just keep swapping.
Otherwise they can just no confidence her before a GE and get someone more stable in. This way they can't just keep swapping.
There is a path here, that's not improbable, where Truss is forced to call a GE to save her skin. With this sort of polling, even with shy Tory syndrome, it should be a comfortable Labour win.
It’s utterly ridiculous that she’s been made PM by a vote amongst 0.002% of the population.
The older I get the more I realise the world is just basically blatantly wrong things happening whilst nobody does anything about it.
Pretty much.