Westminster Politics

WPMUFC said:
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It always makes me laugh when I see this cnut criticising the Tories, as if he wasn't telling everyone not to vote for Corbyn at the last election.

What did he genuinely think would happen under this lot?
 
Mogget said:
It always makes me laugh when I see this cnut criticising the Tories, as if he wasn't telling everyone not to vote for Corbyn at the last election.

What did he genuinely think would happen under this lot?
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Whilst I fundamentally and strongly disagree with JO’B about Corbyn and his suitability for Labour leader and potential PM, I don’t believe that renders invalid his opinions about the Tories and how they’ve handled...well...everything recently.
 
Jericholyte2 said:
Whilst I fundamentally and strongly disagree with JO’B about Corbyn and his suitability for Labour leader and potential PM, I don’t believe that renders invalid his opinions about the Tories and how they’ve handled...well...everything recently.
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He didn't help though, did he? In fact he helped contribute to this outcome.
 
Fluctuation0161 said:
Opposition offering a cohesive alternative? Maybe an opposition with some ideas or policies to engage with people.

A better education system?

A non complicit media?
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Or just the fact that so many people are simply not interested in politics and only take an interest when something has a direct impact on them.
And I still believe that all of the Brexit issues polarised many so much that 'getting Brexit done' has put them off politics in general and Labour, such that they are just not interested.
 
Fluctuation0161 said:
He didn't help though, did he? In fact he helped contribute to this outcome.
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Sure, so would you now prefer him to be helping oppose them, or just walk away? What gain is there for endlessly beating up on one of the few public voices now trying to hold them to account?
 
The combination of this suggestion to give themselves a veto button on any independent watchdog's findings, and Raab's suggestion that, “We will get into the habit of legislating on a more periodic basis and thinking about the mechanism for that,” he said. “Where there have been judgments that – albeit properly and duly delivered by the courts – we think are wrong, the right thing is for parliament to legislate to correct them.” is fully-fledged tyrannical fascist thinking.

There is no longer grounds for people to say, "Well they're not really fascists, at least we're not in Russia or North Korea!" as this is completely in line with the thinking of these dictatorships.
 
Jericholyte2 said:
The combination of this suggestion to give themselves a veto button on any independent watchdog's findings, and Raab's suggestion that, “We will get into the habit of legislating on a more periodic basis and thinking about the mechanism for that,” he said. “Where there have been judgments that – albeit properly and duly delivered by the courts – we think are wrong, the right thing is for parliament to legislate to correct them.” is fully-fledged tyrannical fascist thinking.

There is no longer grounds for people to say, "Well they're not really fascists, at least we're not in Russia or North Korea!" as this is completely in line with the thinking of these dictatorships.
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Yep. But I'd like to take a moment to blame Corbyn.
 
Laura K’s latest tweet talking about changing the rules “in light of what’s happened to Owen Paterson” :lol: she doesn’t even bother to hide it anymore.
 
Fecking Boris with his 40 new hospitals line again. This whole process is a joke!




They are worried about a recall petition because that cannot happen unless he is suspended so they are trying to stop that!
 
Mogget said:
We actually live in a banana republic :lol:
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Even worse - under a monarchy and in a place where it’s too cold to grow bananas.

Not having a written constitution and instead relying on doing the right thing (aka ”conventions”) was always ripe for abuse. In a way, it’s surprising it survived into the second decade of the 21st century. There have always been ad hoc breaches and misuses but it’s only under the current bunch of crooks that we have seen a general application of the idea that standards, rules and even treaty obligations are for the little people.
 
This is what happens when the tories get a large majority. Well done everyone.
 
It’s also hilarious that the ‘punishment’ was going to be a suspension from the commons for 30 days. Kind of wish Guy Fawkes was successful.
 
I am trying as much as possible not to care but it's not working. These guys are fecking unreal. What kind of country is this ffs!
 
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