Westminster Politics

[Pexbo]

Another article to make your blood boil.

It’s a report laying out just how little the private hospital sector did to relieve the NHS during the pandemic despite being paid multiple billions to do exactly that.

£400m a month of tax payers money was going to these private hospitals who averaged just 8 covid patients a day, 39% of days during the pandemic they treated no covid patients at all, 20% just 1 patient and their planned NHS procedures was also down 43% on previous years.

There should be an enquiry into this and the money should be recovered or rolled over to this year and next year. It won’t though as long as some of it finds it’s way back to the Tory party.

 

[FireballXL5]

Another article to make your blood boil.
It’s a report laying out just how little the private hospital sector did to relieve the NHS during the pandemic despite being paid multiple billions to do exactly that.

£400m a month of tax payers money was going to these private hospitals who averaged just 8 covid patients a day, 39% of days during the pandemic they treated no covid patients at all, 20% just 1 patient and their planned NHS procedures was also down 43% on previous years.

There should be an enquiry into this and the money should be recovered or rolled over to this year and next year. It won’t though as long as some of it finds it’s way back to the Tory party.

Funny how they can always find the cash for their mates. £20 a week extra to feed your kids? feck off!

I'm past despair at this point.

 

[MoskvaRed]

Johnson defies all previous points of reference for a Tory PM. He slags off business leaders, his private life is a like a Renaissance pope and he is so obviously just bluster and BS that even the Daily Mail has been calling out his conference speech. And yet he would be odds on to get a majority if there were an election tomorrow.

 

[Kinsella]

We need the return of spitting image. So much material

Satire just doesn't work as well anymore. Standards have changed.

 

[Fluctuation0161]

Johnson defies all previous points of reference for a Tory PM. He slags off business leaders, his private life is a like a Renaissance pope and he is so obviously just bluster and BS that even the Daily Mail has been calling out his conference speech. And yet he would be odds on to get a majority if there were an election tomorrow.

Because we have a complicit media and an opposition with no vision.

 

[CassiusClaymore]

Government took an absolute battering on QT last night by all accounts from a predominantly pro Brexit, pro Tory audience.

Been said many times but this should be an absolute open goal for a competent opposition at the next election.

 

[Kinsella]

 

[Withnail]

Did the people writing and producing this nothingness reckon it was funny themselves?

Somebody must have done for it to get to air. I'm baffled.

 

[Jippy]

Government took an absolute battering on QT last night by all accounts from a predominantly pro Brexit, pro Tory audience.

Been said many times but this should be an absolute open goal for a competent opposition at the next election.

People have been saying that since 2016 but it seems to overlook the fact that the majority of the country is pro-Brexit and Tory and for many that is an unshakeable part of their identity.

 

[Paul the Wolf]

Did the people writing and producing this nothingness reckon it was funny themselves?

Somebody must have done for it to get to air. I'm baffled.

Maybe the real life situations and personalities of the politicians are more surreal and ridiculous than any parody could ever be.

 

[CassiusClaymore]

People have been saying that since 2016 but it seems to overlook the fact that the majority of the country is pro-Brexit and Tory and for many that is an unshakeable part of their identity.

Difference being is now they're actually seeing a detrimental effect to their own livelihood. I'd argue that inherent selfishness is more an intrinsic part of their unshakeable identity, hence the the silent Tories starting to become more vocal.

 

[Withnail]

Maybe the real life situations and personalities of the politicians are more surreal and ridiculous than any parody could ever be.

That may well be true and was for Trump certainly but there was nothing even close to what I would call a joke in the whole segment.

 

[Adisa]

Dimbleby is probably a Tory cnut but didn't come off half as condescending as Fiona Bruce.

 

[Berbasbullet]

Course they carefully select the audience.

 

[esmufc07]

 

[Pexbo]

Thoughts with this person’s family. He lived for 53 years and then died.

 

[Drainy]

saying the quiet part out loud

 

[Jippy]

I'm pretty sure the original Spitting Image was much more of a mixed bag than people remember with their rose-tinted glasses on, but this is dreadful, actually painful. I hate the tone of it, poking fun at a perceived bumbling ineptitude, rather than targeted, vindictive policies smeared in cronyism.

 

[Mr Pigeon]

Forget "low hanging fruit". That's the leftover core after everyone else has eaten the apples.

 

[esmufc07]

 

[Sweet Square]

 

[Fluctuation0161]

They really are scumbags. But scumbags who have turned the BBC into their own propaganda arm.

 

[Drifter]

The Tories Level Up!

 

[rotherham_red]

Remember when the Tories complained about Goodall getting the Newsnight gig cos he was rabidly red and anti-Tory? Good times...

 

[TheGame]

 

[TheGame]

 

[TheGame]

 

[Paul the Wolf]

Ah yes, I remember it well. Passing my driving test in 1973, almost immediately issued with Petrol Ration books (although never used), studying for my A-levels by candlelight, going to bed early with nothing to do and wrapping up in blankets as there was no heating.
Such memories.

 

[Jippy]

Even the DM isn't buying his claim that he said 'you two look very alike'.

'They all look the same to me': Tory MP at the centre of racism row after being accused of confusing Asian ministers Nadhim Zahawi and Sajid Javid at St John Ambulance reception

He mixed up Mr Zahawi, who has a distinctive white beard, and clean-shaven Mr Javid as he attempted to introduce the former to the audience on the Houses of Parliament's Terrace Pavillion as the Health Secretary.

When his error was pointed out to him, he was said to have told the guests: 'They all look the same to me'.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...dhim-Zahawi-Sajid-Javid.html#article-10080777

Top rated comment

Ambiente, Ashby-de-la-Zouch, United Kingdom, 4 hours ago
A simple mistake hardly life threatening.

 

[UnrelatedPsuedo]

It’s incredible isn’t it. People telling me BBC are bunch of lefties are insane.

It’s an easy argument for dishonest people to make to stupid people.

Show evidence of the BBC reporting on ‘Woke’ issues in 0.05% of overall programming. Highlight a few shows in a certain way…

Idiots will believe that a few examples that are amplified equals ‘lefty’, without ever analysing the totality of output, the truly right-skewed politics coverage, the huge number of Tories and chums on speaking spots. Almost all political discourse on the BBC is centre-right hosts pitching acceptable questions to people they socialise with.

That the Daily Mail folks can somehow wrap this up so dishonestly is terrifying.

 

[UnrelatedPsuedo]

People have been saying that since 2016 but it seems to overlook the fact that the majority of the country is pro-Brexit and Tory and for many that is an unshakeable part of their identity.

The majority of the country is anti Brexit and (I believe) more people voted for left wing parties than the Tories at the last election.

This country is broken.

 

[Jippy]

The majority of the country is anti Brexit and (I believe) more people voted for left wing parties than the Tories at the last election.

This country is broken.

Based on what though? All that mattered was those who voted in 2016 realistically and people are naive to think remain would stroll a second vote now. There are a million and one vox pop videos of members of the public still adamantly saying they'd vote Brexit, regardless of the country lurching from one crisis to another. It's the same with my family up north too and more widely, how idiots like IDS are trying to invoke 'the Blitz spirit'.

 

[TwoSheds]

Based on what though? All that mattered was those who voted in 2016 realistically and people are naive to think remain would stroll a second vote now. There are a million and one vox pop videos of members of the public still adamantly saying they'd vote Brexit, regardless of the country lurching from one crisis to another. It's the same with my family up north too and more widely, how idiots like IDS are trying to invoke 'the Blitz spirit'.

Even if you just factor in the wrinklies who've died since the vote and assumed nobody had changed their mind then I think Remain would be favourite. I do also think though that some people have changed their minds finally and more will continue to do so as inflation, shortages and the continued erosion of public services bites.

 

[sebsheep]

Even the DM isn't buying his claim that he said 'you two look very alike'.

'They all look the same to me': Tory MP at the centre of racism row after being accused of confusing Asian ministers Nadhim Zahawi and Sajid Javid at St John Ambulance reception



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...dhim-Zahawi-Sajid-Javid.html#article-10080777

Top rated comment

Ambiente, Ashby-de-la-Zouch, United Kingdom, 4 hours ago
A simple mistake hardly life threatening.

There are some pretty clear differences between the two, especially enough for a colleague to be able to tell them apart.
Saying "They all look alike" isn't a mistake though.

 

[Kentonio]

Based on what though? All that mattered was those who voted in 2016 realistically and people are naive to think remain would stroll a second vote now. There are a million and one vox pop videos of members of the public still adamantly saying they'd vote Brexit, regardless of the country lurching from one crisis to another. It's the same with my family up north too and more widely, how idiots like IDS are trying to invoke 'the Blitz spirit'.

I don't think it would be a huge majority but I think Remain would definitely win in a replay now. It was extremely close last time and most people won't be buying into that 'blitz spirit' crap unless they're the kind of people who definitely voted Leave last time anyway.

 

[UnrelatedPsuedo]

Based on what though? All that mattered was those who voted in 2016 realistically and people are naive to think remain would stroll a second vote now. There are a million and one vox pop videos of members of the public still adamantly saying they'd vote Brexit, regardless of the country lurching from one crisis to another. It's the same with my family up north too and more widely, how idiots like IDS are trying to invoke 'the Blitz spirit'.

It was tight. I can’t possibly envisage a world in which people that voted remain would switch. I have swathes of family members that were hard for Brexit that now freely admit they got it wrong.

My family alone wouldn’t change much. But they’re in Telford, Kent, Wales. Real hard nosed Brexiteer land. I’ll use them as an example of softening. Ditto for many middle class Tories that I work with. Some freely admit they would switch.

Plus young people now making up a higher percentage.

I think Remain would be a solid 60%. Anecdotal and not evidence. But it doesn’t feel like a stupid point.

 

[Jippy]

It was tight. I can’t possibly envisage a world in which people that voted remain would switch. I have swathes of family members that were hard for Brexit that now freely admit they got it wrong.

My family alone wouldn’t change much. But they’re in Telford, Kent, Wales. Real hard nosed Brexiteer land. I’ll use them as an example of softening. Ditto for many middle class Tories that I work with. Some freely admit they would switch.

Plus young people now making up a higher percentage.

I think Remain would be a solid 60%. Anecdotal and not evidence. But it doesn’t feel like a stupid point.

I get the slight demographic change that @TwoSheds mentions, with more older leave folk died (accelerated by Covid a bit too) and more remain youngsters now in voting age, but there are equally more than you think that feel the EU is punishing us and have switched to leave. Some others will buy into the increased nationalism we're seeing, with union flags everywhere and plenty will blame the EU for immigrants coming over the Channel etc...

It's by no means a stupid point, but I just don't share the confidence that remain would comfortably win now. For my family sample, they're from from East Yorkshire, with David Davis my mum's MP, so that is Brexit central! Remain is a massive majority on here and similarly on social media, but in the regions that just isn't the case.

 

[Offsideagain]

My late Father said to me once ‘Labour will spend money on lots of good things but will ruin the economy by taxing industry to pay for it. Then the Tories will get in and fix it but we will all be hit hard so Labour will get and ……’ So it goes on. Governments are in for themselves, not the country. Labour is currently inhabited by loons and dickheads and the Tories are just the Tories. Blair’s Labour built hospitals and other things using the private finance initiative which we will be paying for until the end of the century it seems. Boris is promising jam tomorrow and may have got somewhere if COVID hadn’t been unleashed. At least he gives the impression he wants to do the right thing but is hamstrung by Wokes and right wing freaks in his own party. One thing for sure is we have a weak Home Secretary. The illegals crossing the channel is still not sorted, the police are a mess and we allow middle class morons to inconvenience the public with their protests.

 

[Abizzz]

My late Father said to me once ‘Labour will spend money on lots of good things but will ruin the economy by taxing industry to pay for it. Then the Tories will get in and fix it but we will all be hit hard so Labour will get and ……’ So it goes on. Governments are in for themselves, not the country. Labour is currently inhabited by loons and dickheads and the Tories are just the Tories. Blair’s Labour built hospitals and other things using the private finance initiative which we will be paying for until the end of the century it seems. Boris is promising jam tomorrow and may have got somewhere if COVID hadn’t been unleashed. At least he gives the impression he wants to do the right thing but is hamstrung by Wokes and right wing freaks in his own party. One thing for sure is we have a weak Home Secretary. The illegals crossing the channel is still not sorted, the police are a mess and we allow middle class morons to inconvenience the public with their protests.

A fourth wife maybe? He has a majority and if he's hamstrung by any wokes he's hamstrung by the wokes he used to become prime minister. He's hamstrung by being an imbecile incapable of keeping a thought or his word for longer than 3 minutes.

That's just my outside view.

 

[Flying high]

My late Father said to me once ‘Labour will spend money on lots of good things but will ruin the economy by taxing industry to pay for it. Then the Tories will get in and fix it but we will all be hit hard so Labour will get and ……’ So it goes on. Governments are in for themselves, not the country. Labour is currently inhabited by loons and dickheads and the Tories are just the Tories. Blair’s Labour built hospitals and other things using the private finance initiative which we will be paying for until the end of the century it seems. Boris is promising jam tomorrow and may have got somewhere if COVID hadn’t been unleashed. At least he gives the impression he wants to do the right thing but is hamstrung by Wokes and right wing freaks in his own party. One thing for sure is we have a weak Home Secretary. The illegals crossing the channel is still not sorted, the police are a mess and we allow middle class morons to inconvenience the public with their protests.

Would you vote tory if an election came up soon?