Westminster Politics

Snowjoe said:
Surely more than a clipped Twitter video is needed before we condemn police using their batons. Bodycam them all up
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Unfortunately all of the cameras suffered from an intermittent fault after a magical hand moved towards it seconds before they stopped working.
 
sun_tzu said:
Yes... but perhaps smashing things up isn't the best way of preserving the rights of peaceful protests as they currently stand

Though it will be framed as something that in the midst of a global death lurgy was a bad idea ... that will overshadow even the irony of a violent protest about peaceful protests
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I'm not saying smashing things up is the best way.

But in principle, your initial objection was aimed at people gathering in groups, outside during the pandemic.

If that is your position then what would it take for you to approve of a protest? Or do the government have a free pass from you? What if they try to pass legislation that has long term, post covid impacts on freedom? Is your solution a strongly worded email?
 
Drifter said:
Priti Patel to announce ‘biggest overhaul of asylum system in decades’

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/ukne...cades/ar-BB1eTqJY?ocid=mailsignout&li=BBoPWjQ
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Ms Patel said: “If people arrive illegally, they will no longer have the same entitlements as those who arrive legally, and it will be harder for them to stay.

“If, like over 60% of illegal arrivals, they have travelled through a safe country like France to get here, they will not have immediate entry into the asylum system – which is what happens today.
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I think that's going to have some pretty big implications ... I mean what will they do with people and how?

The other implication is it will probably give the conservatives a boost for being tough on immigruntz ...

Shes probably wet at the thought of the misery she can inflict... and eyeing up a run at no10
 
sun_tzu said:
I think that's going to have some pretty big implications ... I mean what will they do with people and how?

The other implication is it will probably give the conservatives a boost for being tough on immigruntz ...

Shes probably wet at the thought of the misery she can inflict... and eyeing up a run at no10
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Absolutely.

World beating! Yet more international laws broken.

Priti Patel accused of breaking Geneva Convention with plans to deny asylum rights to refugees crossing Channel
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/priti-patel-asylum-rights-geneva-b1821562.html
 
Sweet Square said:
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Imagine my surprise.

The Government and arms of its governing power such as the Police are comfortable lying to our face repeatedly - the media will plaster those lies on tabloids & media, to skew & curate the national opinion in its favour. Then they'll turn around and issue an apology for lying & twisting the truth in small print on page 34 bottom right two weeks after the fact, while a fresh set of lies current cover the front page.
It's a shambles and we're doomed to suffer in its cyclicality because the British public quite simply don't care enough - as a whole we will just gasp in shock while we sleepwalk into authoritarian power.
 
SalfordRed18 said:
I for one, am shocked.
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Why?
Do you believe everything that the police say. Because I most certainly don't.
We are in a position in this country that from the government down, telling the truth is regarded as an inconvenience and an optional extra.
Lying is so much easier.
 
Turns out the punctured lung claim was also bollocks

Avon and Somerset police have retracted widely reported claims that officers suffered broken bones and a punctured lung during attempts to disperse a protest on Sunday night.

There was widespread outrage when the force made the claims in a press release on Monday that “a total of 20 officers were assaulted or injured and two of them were taken to hospital after suffering broken bones. One of them also suffered a punctured lung,” the force had said.

But in an updated press release published on Wednesday, the force clarified this was not true, saying: “Thankfully, following a full medical assessment of the two officers taken to hospital, neither were found to have suffered confirmed broken bones.” Around the same time, a BBC reporter said on Twitter that Andy Marsh, the head of the Avon force, had admitted in a press conference that no officer had suffered a punctured lung. However the force has since updated the number of injuries suffered by police officers to 40.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...cers-suffered-broken-bones-at-bristol-protest
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It's almost as if there was some kind of draconian bill passed that required spin to provide maximum retrospective justification.
 
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