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Surely there must be some part of the existing system that should be holding them accountable for this?
I know they pushed through legislation so they don't have to go through the usual procedures when handing out government contracts (though I feel there were at least a few cases of dodgy stuff going on with brexit things before all this), but this is clear bs stuff.
 
The right wing press have been briefed this morning to distance Johnson from the lockdown decision as much as possible, with the usual unnamed sources saying he was duped by scientists.
Convenient, given the Sun and DM have come out strongly against the decision.

COVID RAGE Boris Johnson ‘furious’ at being ‘bounced’ into 2nd Covid lockdown after ‘confusing’ data from scientists, says minister

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13144024/boris-johnson-furious-bounced-lockdown/

Tories demand blanket lockdown ends BEFORE December 2 amid claims 'furious' Boris Johnson believes he was 'bounced' into the extreme curbs by leaks and overblown data - as daily infections drop AGAIN

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-ends-early-amid-claims-PM-fears-bounced.html
 
The right wing press have been briefed this morning to distance Johnson from the lockdown decision as much as possible, with the usual unnamed sources saying he was duped by scientists.
Convenient, given the Sun and DM have come out strongly against the decision.

COVID RAGE Boris Johnson ‘furious’ at being ‘bounced’ into 2nd Covid lockdown after ‘confusing’ data from scientists, says minister

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13144024/boris-johnson-furious-bounced-lockdown/

Tories demand blanket lockdown ends BEFORE December 2 amid claims 'furious' Boris Johnson believes he was 'bounced' into the extreme curbs by leaks and overblown data - as daily infections drop AGAIN

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-ends-early-amid-claims-PM-fears-bounced.html

Almost everything is open to be fair. Nobody seems to give a Fcuk anymore. May as well open everything back up.
 
Just baffles me how the cronyism and lies are so incredibly obvious and half the country does not care. Absolutely insane how they try to portray themselves as men of the people.
 
Almost everything is open to be fair. Nobody seems to give a Fcuk anymore. May as well open everything back up.
Huh? Only supermarkets and takeaways open round here.
Maybe the government will shorten the lockdown if new infections fall, not like another U-turn would be a shock.
It does seem they don't realise that blaming scientists and old data doesn't deflect from their own incompetence though.
 
Huh? Only supermarkets and takeaways open round here.
Maybe the government will shorten the lockdown if new infections fall, not like another U-turn would be a shock.
It does seem they don't realise that blaming scientists and old data doesn't deflect from their own incompetence though.
Standard blaming anyone but themselves, it would be disappointing if they suddenly completed a U turn and opened everything, just because things might be reducing it doesn’t mean things will suddenly change.
 
Huh? Only supermarkets and takeaways open round here.
Maybe the government will shorten the lockdown if new infections fall, not like another U-turn would be a shock.
It does seem they don't realise that blaming scientists and old data doesn't deflect from their own incompetence though.

I’m staggered by how London looks at the moment. People can’t get a haircut, buy new clothes or go to a mall. That seems to have seen everyone congregate in public spaces. I’ve been on a decent bike ride every day and most neighbourhoods are full of people eating and drinking. Nobody is staying home like they did in the first lockdown.
 
I’m staggered by how London looks at the moment. People can’t get a haircut, buy new clothes or go to a mall. That seems to have seen everyone congregate in public spaces. I’ve been on a decent bike ride every day and most neighbourhoods are full of people eating and drinking. Nobody is staying home like they did in the first lockdown.
Where are they eating and drinking? I just got back from Cyprus at the weekend, so have only been to the supermarket and not had a wander around.
At least this lockdown has a seemingly short and defined duration, unlike the last one I suppose. Plus the supposed lure of 'Boris saving Christmas' if we all obey the rules.
 
Surely there must be some part of the existing system that should be holding them accountable for this?
I know they pushed through legislation so they don't have to go through the usual procedures when handing out government contracts (though I feel there were at least a few cases of dodgy stuff going on with brexit things before all this), but this is clear bs stuff.

They have a massive majority and can stay in power for another 5 years. Who is going to hold them accountable? The media that is largely in their pockets?
 
Where are they eating and drinking? I just got back from Cyprus at the weekend, so have only been to the supermarket and not had a wander around.
At least this lockdown has a seemingly short and defined duration, unlike the last one I suppose. Plus the supposed lure of 'Boris saving Christmas' if we all obey the rules.

Food vendors / market stalls are exempt. So they can sell freely. Pubs are selling beer in plastic cups. Victoria Park was insane. Not quite peak summer levels but close to it.

Taking a look at the lockdown rules, it’s really just Tier 3 in a different name.
 
Food vendors / market stalls are exempt. So they can sell freely. Pubs are selling beer in plastic cups. Victoria Park was insane. Not quite peak summer levels but close to it.

Taking a look at the lockdown rules, it’s really just Tier 3 in a different name.
Ah ok, just seen the pics. There's only an occasional market in Hammersmith, so we don't have anything like that. I guess that's why everyone's thronging there...

If they've admitted the data underpinning this lockdown is wrong, it's hard to damage people for not giving too much of a shit.
 

Yay. About time the public sector had a 1% cap on their wages, long time coming...

And before anyone says "the private sector have had to blah blah blah" just realise that if public sector rates are throttled then there's bugger all incentive for your bosses to make your pay competitive in comparison. We all lose. Again.

Grateful I've still got a job, but, fecking hell man... Pick a different strategy for once, eh?!
 
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Well it’s not real for starters. That’s probably a better starting point.

You can do it on the image from Boris's tweet yourself. Stick it in an image editor and crank up the brightness and contrast. It clearly says Trump above Biden
 
Well it’s not real for starters. That’s probably a better starting point.
I've just tried it myself - it's real, you can see Trump's name there if you zoom in. They must have pasted this image over a version where they congratulate Trump, and have done it very poorly. Completely ridiculous. :lol:
 
You can do it on the image from Boris's tweet yourself. Stick it in an image editor and crank up the brightness and contrast. It clearly says Trump above Biden
I've just tried it myself - it's real, you can see Trump's name there if you zoom in. They must have pasted this image over a version where they congratulate Trump, and have done it very poorly. Completely ridiculous. :lol:
It's 100% real and easily checkable.

Aye. Hands up. I read the first video response. Tried it on my phone. Didn’t see it.

Enough people have now tweeted proof. I’m wrong. Apologies all.
 
Too many people putting it down to incompetence when I think it’s deliberate.

It says:

Trump
The future
Second term

Nothing else.
 
It's the sort of stuff one does when one wants to distract from something else? There's no way one can do this by mistake. Them suggesting it is is disrespectful in itself. Do they honestly believe everyone is as stupid as the people they fraternize with?
 
It's the sort of stuff one does when one wants to distract from something else? There's no way one can do this by mistake. Them suggesting it is is disrespectful in itself. Do they honestly believe everyone is as stupid as the people they fraternize with?

It’s probably more innocent than that.

“What did we say last time?”
[Writer checks network drive : USA>New President>Image2016]
”Ok, same template, write some guff, put it under my nose by tomorrow”.

The big ticket government players are capable of many things. Run-rate civil service folks just do the same kind of job that regular people do.

I’m not defending it. It’s embarrassing to the point I didn’t believe it. But honest cock ups are possible and frequent.
 
It’s probably more innocent than that.

“What did we say last time?”
[Writer checks network drive : USA>New President>Image2016]
”Ok, same template, write some guff, put it under my nose by tomorrow”.

The big ticket government players are capable of many things. Run-rate civil service folks just do the same kind of job that regular people do.

I’m not defending it. It’s embarrassing to the point I didn’t believe it. But honest cock ups are possible and frequent.

What I find hardest to believe is why on earth you'd go about editing it in that way.

It's common sense they would have had two messages on the go and just wheeled out whichever one was appropriate, but why the feck would you do it like that?!
 
What I find hardest to believe is why on earth you'd go about editing it in that way.

It's common sense they would have had two messages on the go and just wheeled out whichever one was appropriate, but why the feck would you do it like that?!

Naivety? If it really is a run of the mill balls up, the creator did get the job done.

I do some shocking workarounds in Excel and PowerPoint at times when it’s quicker to get the right result with the wrong method. Hide all the columns or text box outlines just to get shit in the right place.

My mistakes are all in there but the outcome is the same as doing it properly.

It’s obviously a big problem if the Government isn’t training internal staff to use the tools needed to do their job.... but it’s small beer to me.