Westminster Politics

There is nothing wrong with a government that is prepared to reconsider the odd decision.
But there is a fundamental problem with a government that makes so many utterly stupid decisions that it is continually having to make not just a minor correction. But in so many cases a complete 180 U turn.
It smacks of muddled thinking, or making decisions 'on the hoof' without the proper checks and balances. And it totally undermines the public confidence such that large numbers of people get so confused, they ignore the important messages.

Normally I would agree with you but the Covid thing is throwing up so many different 'events'* that it means the government is always riding a transient wave at an unknown amplitude and frequency and as yet no steady state in sight. There are supposedly trying to follow the science, but then is it health or economic science? It certainly not political science that's for sure.

* always recall Harold Macmillan when asked why he couldn't complete something and why he seemed to change his mind, his reply was " events dear boy, events"!
 
Normally I would agree with you but the Covid thing is throwing up so many different 'events'* that it means the government is always riding a transient wave at an unknown amplitude and frequency and as yet no steady state in sight. There are supposedly trying to follow the science, but then is it health or economic science? It certainly not political science that's for sure.

* always recall Harold Macmillan when asked why he couldn't complete something and why he seemed to change his mind, his reply was " events dear boy, events"!

And if it is the result of events, then it is understandable.
But in many of the cases, it is not simply the result of an unforeseen event. It is primarily the result of incoherent and muddled thinking. With not enough forethought or in-depth analysis.
 
If it had just been the Guardian or Observer that were prevented from being delivered, you wouldn't have heard a peep out of Priti fecking Patel
 
They should be grateful that they onlynstopped them printing for a day rather than putting a bullet in their head

Extinction Rebellion co-founder, Roger Hallam, preaching “you should put a bullet in [the] head” of those who are responsible for harming the environment. Adding, “or rather someone will”.

According to the group’s founder – and despite being an anarchist group without a formal leader remains at the top of their hierarchy – those who deserve a bullet in their head include those who: “run society, run big business, run governments, run the elites
 
They should be grateful that they onlynstopped them printing for a day rather than putting a bullet in their head

Who wrote that, because it shows a hilarious political illiteracy to talk of an anarchist hierarchy.
 
Who wrote that, because it shows a hilarious political illiteracy to talk of an anarchist hierarchy.
I would have thought that a man whose previous comments on the holocaust had caused the heiracty of xr Germany

To distance them selves from him
And the heiracht of xr uk were forced to issue a statement saying
XR UK said the climate movement "must be safe for Jews, and for all marginalised peoples and religious groups".

Separately, an XR spokesman said: "Jewish people and many others are deeply wounded by the comments...

"Internal conversations have begun with the XR Conflict team about how to manage the conflict process that will address this issue. We stand by restorative outcomes as preferable, although in some cases exclusion is necessary."
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-europe-50501941

Now skipping the fact that both organisations having spokespeople and indeed even a conflict team it would seem to imply a certain level or organisation and heirachy.

But having to come out against one of the founders does show his views on the holocaust were an issue... and this same person is now saying there should be a bullet to the head of those people who "run the elites" ... who could he be referring to beyond the antisemitic tropes?

I would have thought that was a bigger issue than how an article was written... nevermind you will have another opportunity to denounce antisemitism when the ehrc report is published (presumably in the next couple of weeks?)
 
I would have thought that a man whose previous comments on the holocaust had caused the heiracty of xr Germany

To distance them selves from him
And the heiracht of xr uk were forced to issue a statement saying

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-europe-50501941

Now skipping the fact that both organisations having spokespeople and indeed even a conflict team it would seem to imply a certain level or organisation and heirachy.

But having to come out against one of the founders does show his views on the holocaust were an issue... and this same person is now saying there should be a bullet to the head of those people who "run the elites" ... who could he be referring to beyond the antisemitic tropes?

I would have thought that was a bigger issue than how an article was written... nevermind you will have another opportunity to denounce antisemitism when the ehrc report is published (presumably in the next couple of weeks?)


I don't think XR count as an anarchist group. It's a decentralised, loose coalition of groups, some more hierarchical than others. But it speaks to the intellectual credibility of Guido that they can call a group anarchist and in the same breath talk about its hierarchy. It's like criticising the sharpness of the corners on a circle.

I have issues with XR, although not the same ones you do. They have done some outstanding graphic design work though.
 
Only half a page up we have tweets about Tory MP’s demanding the BBC stop taking the piss out of them in comedy shows. And that Panorama shouldn’t be doing things like exposing government incompetence on PPE.

24 hours later, Tory MP’s moaning about blocking free press. feck them all.
 
Only half a page up we have tweets about Tory MP’s demanding the BBC stop taking the piss out of them in comedy shows. And that Panorama shouldn’t be doing things like exposing government incompetence on PPE.

24 hours later, Tory MP’s moaning about blocking free press. feck them all.
Either people will notice this and this government will not last long.

Or, we have been dumbed down and distracted so much as a nation over he last few decades, so they can get away with anything and it is forgotten in the next news cycle.
 
Either people will notice this and this government will not last long.

Or, we have been dumbed down and distracted so much as a nation over he last few decades, so they can get away with anything and it is forgotten in the next news cycle.

Definitely the second one. The hypocrisy seen on a day to day basis has just become normal now.

Take XR for example. When they staged protests and blocked roads, there was a lot of people annoyed by this, which I understood, despite loosely agreeing that radical action is probably the only way of getting attention.

Now today, you’ve got the right marching and blocking roads in Dover. Guarantee all of them were completely slaughtering XR for doing the same thing.
 
So Extinction Rebellion is going to be labelled an organised criminal group if the government has its way because thy wanted to draw exposure to the fact that the country’s ‘free’ media is an illusion, increasing minimum wages are financially impossible but MPs will still happily bend over for companies who have already pulled their pants down using tax havens, then allowing the, to use Covid relief funds.

feck the state of this world!
 
Yes but given i don't think making a time machine is a viable policy they either let people out without charge or they extend the time... neither are great but if somebody released without charge then goes on to do something that would be arguably the worst outcome

Or they could open more courts to clear the backlog, which they created themselves.

But of course they picked the option where innocent people get locked up longer awaiting justice.
 
Or they could open more courts to clear the backlog, which they created themselves.

But of course they picked the option where innocent people get locked up longer awaiting justice.
How quickly could they open them and staff them with qualified people out of interest? - the secret barrister book seemed to imply they were pretty flat out as it was often only getting cases the morning they were supposed to court ?
 


That seems more indicative of limited 5g rollout coverage, rather than the speeds people get when actually connected to 5g. I'm not sure how we compare to the other countries mentioned in terms of population/geographical coverage.