Westminster Politics

The British Trump finally at the helm. People didn't even vote for him. Is this proper democracy?

Hard Brexit, then. New Reps-Tories US/UK alliance. So be it.
 
This is going to be like when EB Farnum became Mayor of Deadwood.
 
SteveJ said:
This is going to be like when EB Farnum became Mayor of Deadwood.
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This is utterly depressing, really concerned about what this silly wnker will do with Brexit on the border. Trump and Boris leading in 2019, what a time to be alive. Proves that any dickhead can be left in charge of a major western country in the 21st century.
 
Kingston would be the best place for Boris, you need all that Jamaican weed to go through with accepting that fate.
 
Was interesting to see his 92,000 votes in context. According to Ons data, around the same number of people as the population of Tewkesbury voted for the blonde charlatan.
 
Djemba-Djemba said:
I take it you're a Tory then?
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I have voted Tory in the past. I wouldn't at the moment.

Fingeredmouse said:
I have no idea what you mean by liberals in this sentence. It seems to be used here as Americans use it.
I'm guessing, given you're using the term to attack someone for not liking young Tories, that you are using it to mean tolerates anything. It doesn't.

feck the Tories, every one, old and young. A bunch of self serving power hungry elitist bastards who only have principles when it applies to fecking over the most vulnerable in society at which time fiscal prudence suddenly matters, or when it comes to expressing their creatively concealed racism in policy.
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What an absolute load of rubbish.

Hammerfell said:
Begone, Tory.
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Grinner said:
Odd that this question wasn't answered. @Honest John
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I am not against a 2nd vote or referendum at all. If you want one have one would be my take on it. I just can't see the point of one. I think the country would be split pretty much the same as last time.

I really do not think that this thing is going to be overturned.

At least the WA is a mechanism to move forward in some fashion.
 
Honest John said:
I am not against a 2nd vote or referendum at all. If you want one have one would be my take on it. I just can't see the point of one. I think the country would be split pretty much the same as last time.

I really do not think that this thing is going to be overturned.

At least the WA is a mechanism to move forward in some fashion.
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It would shut a lot of people up.
 
Outside of the brexit element, how does him winning effects the dynamics in Scotland and northern Ireland?
Had the feeling those parts view him as the worst representative of English exceptionalism that doesn't give a shit about the rest. Is my perception accurate or do most not differ between him and the English Tories in general? How does he get along with the DUP? @Cheesy @Ian Reus
 
Grinner said:
Odd that this question wasn't answered. @Honest John
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I might be wrong, but wasn't it a bunch of Remainers ( I'm looking at you Ms Balls and you Benn minor ) who organised and won a vote to prevent the UK leaving without an Agreement ??

HoC refuses to pass May's Agreement ; EU say there is no other Agreement ; and Hoc says UK can't leave without an Agreement.

Perhaps there's the answer - passing the agreement is the only way out of the deadlock.

Perhaps another and related question....We all know Tory Brexiteers' objections to May's Agreement, but what are Labour's objections to it ?

Well.....Today's objections, that is....
 
Kasper said:
Outside of the brexit element, how does him winning effects the dynamics in Scotland and northern Ireland?
Had the feeling those parts view him as the worst representative of English exceptionalism that doesn't give a shit about the rest. Is my perception accurate or do most not differ between him and the English Tories in general? How does he get along with the DUP? @Cheesy @Ian Reus
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Full bodied red said:
I might be wrong, but wasn't it a bunch of Remainers ( I'm looking at you Ms Balls and you Benn minor ) who organised and won a vote to prevent the UK leaving without an Agreement ??

HoC refuses to pass May's Agreement ; EU say there is no other Agreement ; and Hoc says UK can't leave without an Agreement.

Perhaps there's the answer - passing the agreement is the only way out of the deadlock.

Perhaps another and related question....We all know Tory Brexiteers' objections to May's Agreement, but what are Labour's objections to it ?

Well.....Today's objections, that is....
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Bloody mindedness. No better than the Tory headbangers
 
Fingeredmouse said:
Is it? Ideological opposition to the welfare state (including, increasingly, the NHS and education) is ideological opposition to support for the most vulnerable in society.
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They don't oppose the Welfare state. Conservatives certainly view welfare as a last resort - and that is how it should be! Sitting on welfare should never be a lifestyle choice, and it certainly was a viable option in the past.
 
48% of Scots want to stay in the UK? Can't for life of me see why.
 
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